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Post by leftylady on Nov 24, 2004 11:58:58 GMT -5
Vlad said he is planning/working on the next review but Turkey-related issues have caused some delay. But he promised it would be out before the next ep airs. Lola Are you calling Vlad a turkey? LOL See what happens when we can't get our Lost fix.
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Post by Lola m on Nov 24, 2004 16:22:49 GMT -5
Are you calling Vlad a turkey? LOL See what happens when we can't get our Lost fix. **snerk, snicker** **puts on innocent, sober face** No, no. I would never do that! Lola
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Post by William the Bloody on Nov 24, 2004 18:55:06 GMT -5
**snerk, snicker** **puts on innocent, sober face** No, no. I would never do that! Lola Oh you know I jsut gobble it up. ;D Either that, or I'm stuffin' the pain down deep. Doesn't matter; I yam what I yam. Actually, I know a punkin' like you would never do that. Happy Thanksgiving! Vlad
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Post by SpringSummers on Dec 3, 2004 9:55:25 GMT -5
OK, first: Let’s Bridge the Golf Between Us? [/b] I would like to say that, as a sophisticated reader, I scoffed at this pun, but no - I laughed instead. So I cannot criticize.
Hurley, supernatural? I hadn’t heard this theory, and to this theory I say: No way. It would just ruin him as a character, and what (I think) he is meant to represent: A person, a regular person, whose value is subtle but essential, whose smarts are not the traditional Sayid or Jack type smarts, but who is one of the most insightful castaways nonetheless. He HAS to be one of them, I think, for this to work as it should. And what does duffer mean?
Loved the golf motif. Really worked for the review. And you said something nice about Shannon! It was just about her tan, but hey: You said something nice about Shannon. Next you will join me in my lone crusade to hook her up with Charley. But wait . . . what’s this? You are trying to hook Shannon up with Mike? I don’t mean to suggest that there is only one answer here, but - WRONG!! Little Walt deserves a more motherly sort, like Claire - no?
A big YES on Locke giving us the wiggins!
Sun & Jin: I thought I saw them laughing in the crowd watching the golf.
Let me again try my answers to your questions:
Is everyone from Danielle’s group dead?
I’m guessing everyone but Alex.
Where is Alex? Is Alex male or female and even human?
On the gender – who knows. But I think human, and actually her child, because Danielle seemed crazy, but not that crazy.
Did Jack make that putt?
No. Because – well you remember that pool scene, in Fool For Love, with Buffy and Spike, and Spike stroking his stick, and getting those balls in the holes, and Buffy grabbing his stick, and all that? Opposite vibes, for Jack, with Kate watching. He’s going to mishandle that club, and miss the hole.
What were those voices?
The boogeymen. I don’t think they’re real, but rather that they represented the imaginings of a person who is too alone and too afraid – too solitary.
And in conclusion: Nice job, Vlad.
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Post by Nickim on Dec 3, 2004 13:13:15 GMT -5
Thanks for the great review, Vlad. Always worth the wait. You said: None of these people have gone through being stranded on an island before, so they can't have played this same course before. I like the way you pointed out that they're all using past tactics, not always very effectively. The fact that they choose to play a individual sport is very telling about where they are in their journey. They're still looking at things from an individual standpoint. They need to start playing and working more as a team. This is something I hadn't heard: The idea of a spirit guide an a journey of personal discovery is common in Native American cultures. It's an interesting idea, but I'm betting Hurley is mostly what he seems, just an average guy, maybe a little more sensitive than some and more aware of who needs some extra help at any given time. That's my theory, and I'm sticking to it until proven otherwise. I do this same thing. I wouldn't play either, I'd be too nervous and afraid I'd make a total fool of myself in front of the guy I was attracted to. I really like what you said here: It really does take a village, but Michael needs to be making more effort. He had the perfect chance to at least pretend to care and let Walt take his turn, but as you said, "too self-absorbed." It's a sad fact that many people treat their children this way. Michael doesn't have the pressure to make a living that most parents do, so just spend some time with the kid. Show him how to build the showers, and go hunting with your son and Locke. You said: Killing Sayid won't make her less alone, rather it add to the list of people who she can no longer touch or talk to. By this statement alone Danielle proves that even if she wasn't crazy before the isolation, she is now. You said: Very cool, again emphasizing how much we need other people. I still think they need to find a team sport and start working together more. Why not use that perfectly good beach for some volleyball?
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Post by Patti - S'cubie Cutie on Dec 3, 2004 16:08:04 GMT -5
Vlad, I think your golf analogy is right on the ball...you putt some kewl thought in this review, as you always do of course! And I'm not teesing about this! (Horrible puns I know, but you're going to have to green and bear it! ) ;D Personal note: I really enjoy reading your reviews. I enjoy reading your posts just as much. just sayin'.
Now...on to the review!
Again, great catch on the golf analogy. With all the discussion on the board, I don't think anyone else picked up on the significance of golf being the game they played in this episode about being alone. Big smile from me...that's immediately my 'OH I didn't think of that'! you always provide me.
I agree so much. Hurley is becoming the glue that is holding this bunch of desparate folk together - each week his significance increases. I wonder what backstory they are going to create for him?
More vigorous nodding of my head here...and also wondering what they will do with this part of the story. Michael distrusts Locke so much (me too still) and doesn't want his kid around him, has a perfect opportunity to create the bond with Walt he seems so jealous of and just blows it so completely - just doesn't even SEE it right there before him. Maybe it's self-absorption as you say. But it's also incredibly dumb.
I agree - I think that's what the story is saying about Sayid - as evidenced by his ability to communicate finally with Danielle in such a way that he got 'through' and she allowed him to leave. In that moment neither of them were alone. Also, we have the evidence of the photo of Nadia - which he left behind at Danielle's in his escape. But it's my feeling that Nadia was a symbol of his guilt - a reminder of the horrible things he had done, that he had carried around with him. And he put that burden down finally. As opposed to Sawyer, who carried the letter he had written as a reminder of what he had become - and we saw that he DIDN'T put that down...he almost burned that letter but didn't. well, for now that's what I think anyway.
OH now bravo, that was just too good! LOL!
Agree with 'what didn't work' - you, as often, showed me what made the episode significant. To this sometimes too casual viewer, the ep seemed less substantive at first viewing - your examples and analogies put it into perspective for me.
And yeah...did NOT buy the 'can't fix the music box' thing...but I can accept it as another analogy. she's been alone with this unusable source of delight until Sayid shows up to fix the ....yeah, that works for me.
;D
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Post by Lola m on Dec 4, 2004 13:10:38 GMT -5
Hey Vlad! Very interesting beginning. I hadn’t thought of the implications of golf as the chosen game. (I am very determinedly ignoring the pun. Watch me ignore it. La, la, la, I don’t see you. ;D ) Camaraderie, but not truly a “group” sport – the importance of the “inner game”, challenging yourself more so than others – playing together, but not really moving toward a single group goal, etc. It’s a personal journey that one takes in the company of, one hopes, congenial companions wishing each other well. Does this mirror how they should spend their time on the island? I am definitely in the camp of Spring and Nicki in believing and hoping that Hurley is really just another survivor. However, as we’ve been discussing on threads here, and as you point out, he is definitely the one who has the most insight into the group of people and what they need, what is important for long term survival, perhaps not from in obvious physical way, but true survival. He is our quieter, less-flashy. “everyday” hero guy. Wonderful description of Kate: . In a million years I would never have created that particular collection of words and yet once I read it, I realized how perfect it was. Bravo! I just loved your paragraphs about Michael and Walt and Locke. Particularly the final sentence: While in other situations and with others from the group, Locke’s true nature seems ambivalent, you are very right when you compare the relationship he is forming with Walt as parental. At the same time, Locke has worked hard to keep from overstepping into Michael’s territory. Making sure that it was dad who returned the dog, always stepping back if Michael asked, etc. Michael needs to step up himself and understand that the bond he is forming with his son needs to be real and in depth – he needs to work a little harder. The cross comparison of the different types of “solitary” among Sayid and Nadia, Danielle and Alex was a wonderful new (for me) way of thinking about those scenes and their similarities. As you said, and I agree, keeping hope alive is Sayid’s particular skill, one that the survivors are going to need even more as the weeks pass. I just wonder what form that hope will take. And what a masterful concluding paragraph – the Buddhism, the golf, the multiple winner, the dimples. What can I say? **golf claps** **snicker about Jack and his new island “practice”** Plus, the golf "chapter headings" were very cute - Caddy to the Stars, Four to Play Through, etc. Lola
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Post by Rob on Dec 4, 2004 19:50:21 GMT -5
Vlad: putting aside the excellence of the review in general, I think your summation of Kate as a trapped gypsy avoiding her roots was fabulous. Best character summation I've read so far, and expressed in ten words or less. I can't tell you how much I admire people who can manage that.
Nice job.
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Post by Karen on Dec 6, 2004 8:07:26 GMT -5
Great review, Vlad!
Loved the golf analogy/metaphor. I've been really impressed with Hurley of late. I read in EW that when the actor read for a spot in the show, that they were so impressed with him that they developed a new character just for him.
Just time for a hit and run, but I wanted to mention that when you wrote about Sayid "You were a bad, bad man Sayid and you have a lot to atone for. Yet, your soul seems good. I hope that one day you find your Nadia. No matter what you told Danielle, I don't believe you have given up on that search, either." it got me thinking about the whole "Nadia" part of the episode and how it fit in with Sayid's search.
Taking a clue from Sara's name-game play, I sounded out Nadia backwards, and it sounds a lot like "Eden". I think that fits, because whatever else Nadia meant to Sayid, I think she also represents home and his childhood roots. His view of Eden. A place of love and safety.
Maybe the "Eden" thing is a bit of a stretch, but that's what I like about your reviews - they get me thinking in new directions.
Thanks!
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Mar 16, 2006 13:13:09 GMT -5
Sayid episode! Bounce, bounce
Wish I could read Arabic. Wonder what it says.
Sayid always in bandages.
2 days since Sayid took off.
Accidents happen when you torture people. True dat.
Ow!!
Rousseau has too much time on her hands.
What is Sayid saying I wonder?
Hey, another survivor gets lines.
Hives. Hypochondriac. Red Herring.
Hurley as the social director.
Things could be worse. Yep.
Sayid reaps what he sows, being tortured for information he doesn't have.
It's the girl!
Ethan! Thought he would have been introduced earlier than this.
How do you know my name? I read it there on the jacket. Oh. Hee.
They control it now.
Your name is on the envelope. Hee.
Why must you pick on little Sayid? Because he ignores me.
Ah, he knew her as a child.
Like Sawyer, Sayid's resolve falters when he's familiar with his target.
Torture as retribution for pushing him in the mud?
Find a way to entertain yourself.
Hee! Love Hurley!
Nadia's dead (but not from the plane crash)!
Michael's an architect/artist.
Golf! Hee.
Whack balls around. Hee. I'm 12.
Jack could learn a lesson or 2 from Hurley.
You didn't hear about the polar bear? Hee.
Speaking of going crazy waiting for the next bad thing to happen.
What did she inject?
Are Jack and Michael going to get it on?
This whole golf thing is cracking me up.
Oh, a sedative.
A map of the island.
Three days out of Tahiti. Malfunction, storm. 2 months before... The Others were the carriers.
Rousseau's heard the whispers.
Is Rousseau's place one of the hatches?
This isn't a game. Yet you keep playing.
Pretending to be something I know you're not.
Being a bad guy as a viscious cycle.
Golf course bringing everyone together. ICE countermeasures note.
Don't recognize the sound of the music box.
Clever Sayid with the screw driver.
She's seen polar bears too?
There's no such thing as monsters. Hmm...
OMG, is Sayid messed up.
Hurley/Charlie slashy.
Michael let's Walt down. Again. Oy.
Odd that there's no other surviving children in the front of the plane. Just Walt.
Mexican standoff.
You have more than you know. Again. People from our Losties past alternatively supporting and denigrating them.
Gun's not loaded. Hee. Despite the torture, this is a funny episode.
Effects of isolation on Rousseau.
You will find me in the next life, if not in this one. Poignant. Ref. Castaway.
Sayid doesn't know if Nadia's dead.
Odd long view of Rousseau and Sayid. Some one watching?
Why doesn't Rousseau go join the survivors?
Sawyer joining the group.
Whispers! Sayid is unhinged.
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Post by dr76 on Feb 23, 2011 14:12:27 GMT -5
I have a few problems with Vlad's comments on this episode.
Did people really expect Michael to know how to raise a child correctly, right off the bat? I mean . . . honestly. People seemed to forget that parents are human beings and are capable of mistakes. Michael was making mistakes with Walt, because he was INEXPERIENCED. His experience with acting as Walt's father was probably less than a month, by this episode.
But this comment really annoyed me:
Did people really believe it was okay for Locke to teach Walt how to use a weapon . . . without Michael's permission? I certainly didn't. And I still don't.
Why do fans of television and movies expect fictional parents to be perfect? Why? I never understood this kind of mentality.
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