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Post by Karen on Jan 6, 2005 7:50:09 GMT -5
It was nice to see Rose again. I'm glad we're gonna keep seeing the same characters return. I mean, we have to, because - island, so where would they go, but still. More folk are understanding that something is wierd and wrong with the island. The tide and waves that keep forcing them farther in. Is the island trying to make them all go back into the jungle? Lola That's what I was thinking. The island wants them all to face their fears, maybe?
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Post by Karen on Jan 6, 2005 7:57:16 GMT -5
Would you look at Sawyer. He tries to get into Kate's secrets by picking the lock, then using force. But what do you know - it takes a key. Good metaphoring, Spring. I woke up thinking about this one. And Kate asks Jack for help with her box and he agrees only if they open it together - and he keeps his promise to do that, even though she tries to hide her key. But when they open it, and he makes her admit part of her secret and she does - what does he do? Try to comfort her? No, he leaves her to her pain. Quite a contrast to Rose comforting Charlie on the beach. Interesting stuff. Now, I'm remembering that scene where Sawyer is up high on the tree roots trying to the case by throwing it on the ground. Then Kate way down below is able to take it back and run away with it.
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Post by SpringSummers on Jan 6, 2005 8:13:03 GMT -5
Good metaphoring, Spring. I woke up thinking about this one. And Kate asks Jack for help with her box and he agrees only if they open it together - and he keeps his promise to do that, even though she tries to hide her key. But when they open it, and he makes her admit part of her secret and she does - what does he do? Try to comfort her? No, he leaves her to her pain. Quite a contrast to Rose comforting Charlie on the beach. I know. And there's that whole "Sawyer and Kate plunging into the water together" thing, also. And remember how the episode opened with Kate up in the tree, and Sawyer on the ground? Also, I wanted to agree with you about the swimming . . . why didn't Sawyer take his pants off too? Discrimination! Unfair undressing practices! I protest!
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Post by Queen E on Jan 6, 2005 8:16:31 GMT -5
Good metaphoring, Spring. I woke up thinking about this one. And Kate asks Jack for help with her box and he agrees only if they open it together - and he keeps his promise to do that, even though she tries to hide her key. But when they open it, and he makes her admit part of her secret and she does - what does he do? Try to comfort her? No, he leaves her to her pain. Quite a contrast to Rose comforting Charlie on the beach. Interesting stuff. Now, I'm remembering that scene where Sawyer is up high on the tree roots trying to the case by throwing it on the ground. Then Kate way down below is able to take it back and run away with it. On the plus side, the pants seemed to be falling off, and I think he goes commando.
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Post by Pixi on Jan 6, 2005 8:24:21 GMT -5
I think J.J. has been reading the boards - we got to see all the characters everyone has been wondering about - Rose, Vincent, etc. But grrrrrrr - I wanted more resolution, development on the Claire/Rom plot.
My impressions - I like the way they take the characters and move your sympathies around. Finally, Kate seems to be showing more layers and actually got to do something besides gaze pensively out to sea. Shannon is also given more layers and I have no clue what that look Boone was giving Shannon means. Looking at the previews it looked like Locke whacks Boone over the head next week, lending credence to the thought that he was the one who originally whacked Sayid.
The bodies in the water was a good scary moment. And the airplane in the envelope combined with beyond the Sea combined with water rushing in to the beach (in a scary real-life allegory type way) all added to the creepy.
Great, great title!
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Post by Lola m on Jan 6, 2005 8:36:14 GMT -5
How do we know her name's not Kate? She says her name's not Maggie. She's conning the cons who are conning the Bank Manager . . . cons within cons . . . everything all layered up like an airplane underwater, in a locked case, in an envelope. You're right - I was jumping to conclusions there and thinking she always lies about her name! (And nice analogy with the layers and the case. ) I am also really wondering about her explanation of the little plane. The man I loved/the man I killed. This is meant to be read as both true - she loved someone and somehow killed them. But is this true? And is it just part of the truth? Because convincing a bunch of guys to rob a bank, pretend to be all smoochy with one (I presume she was pretending?!), shooting folks up - just to get your hands on a little toy plane that belonged to the man you loved/killed? That's not just being sentimental - that's, well, that's looney! So the little plane has to be more than just that. Plus, on a show where there is no such thing as "just a prop", a toy plane in the wreckage of a crashed real plane is just creepy and potentially very very creepy in its implications. Lola
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Post by Lola m on Jan 6, 2005 8:39:05 GMT -5
So, first: good to know that Kate's still got a functional razor. Or else there's a waxing facility on the island. **snork, snork** I bet they found a plant to do the job. ;D Lola
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Post by Lola m on Jan 6, 2005 8:41:00 GMT -5
He and Locke have been out playing in their new secret manhole fort together. Right! So Boone was just worried about Shannon because no girls allowed in the clubhouse? ;D
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Post by SpringSummers on Jan 6, 2005 8:42:26 GMT -5
Right! So Boone was just worried about Shannon because no girls allowed in the clubhouse? ;D He wants Sayid for himself. As do I (back off, Lola.)
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Post by Lola m on Jan 6, 2005 8:46:03 GMT -5
It's 8:40, and I'm very irked with Kate. And anyone else who's still keeping "back home" secrets like they're still important. Get a frickin' clue, people! You've survived a plane crash, you're on a not-quite-but-you-probably-wish-it-was deserted island, survival is your big issue, teamwork is important, and keeping secrets that are basically meaningless (I'm assuming) to everyone else around you is just a way to stupidly interfere with bonding and group harmony. Dammit. Well, yeah! And all the simpering and then fighting and stuff over the case! Why not just take it the first time he offered it to her at the lagoon? He was offering it and if she'd played it cool, he would have given it. Why not just say you wanted a little toy in the freakin' thing? Or, you know, forget about it because you're stranded on an island with weird scary monsters and people who kidnap other people and need to keep finding food and water and shelter!!!!!! Ahem. Well, I guess that was a bit pent up in me, eh? Lola
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Post by Lola m on Jan 6, 2005 8:48:41 GMT -5
So, Jawyer? ;D I was somewhat disappointed in the toy airplane. I'm still all WTF about that. My mind is starting to go all sort of wacky places with it now. Like somehow it (or Kate) caused the crash, or caused them all to survive the crash, or . . . 'Cuz it's just so . . . WTF?! You did all that canoodling and bank robbing and shooting for a TOY PLANE?! Lola
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Post by Lola m on Jan 6, 2005 8:49:29 GMT -5
LOLOLOL! Between Sack and Loone, you got me dying' here! Lola
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Post by Pixi on Jan 6, 2005 8:49:39 GMT -5
So the little plane has to be more than just that. Plus, on a show where there is no such thing as "just a prop", a toy plane in the wreckage of a crashed real plane is just creepy and potentially very very creepy in its implications. Lola I found the whole toy airplane thing extremely weird, creepy and confusing. Are we supposed to infer that the toy airplace represents the plane that crashed? So the man she loved and killed had this in a safe deposit box? I'm clueless on this. So is Kate really some sort of government agent - I got a definete something is going on vibe from her at the bank. (Or it could be all the Alias promos during the show
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Post by Lola m on Jan 6, 2005 8:50:21 GMT -5
They're doing a good job of it, too. Dark and light. **nods a lot**
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Post by Pixi on Jan 6, 2005 8:51:14 GMT -5
LOLOLOL! Between Sack and Loone, you got me dying' here! Lola Hee, hee! I really have to stop giggling at my desk.
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