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Post by Dalton on Jul 13, 2003 14:35:39 GMT -5
My interpretation of the 'can't get out of bed' scene in "Where the Wild Things Are" was that they were controlled by the evil? force in the house just like everyone else, but they were also fueling the force, in a sort of circular manner. That was a little unclear to me . Maybe someone else has a better understanding of that dynamic. So I had thought their satisfaction rating was tied to the evil force. At the end Buffy said something like they couldn't seem to stop. That could be interpreted several ways, I suppose...
Parker wasn't even a ewwww to me. He was just...nothing. I felt a lttle bad for Buffy, but that scenario was so stock, "first time away to school and thinking you're soooo lucky to have found Mr. Right immediately". Such a common growing-up mistake. Parker was just an experience, like learning to room with a stranger. Well, not like Buffy's experience with Kathy.
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Post by Dalton on Jul 13, 2003 14:36:32 GMT -5
Huh. I thought I'd read somewhere that ME was hoping Riley would win approval with the audience but because he failed to catch on that they ultimately wrote him out of the show. Alexandra, do you have any information suggesting that he was never intended to do more than offer a contrast and an unfavorable comparison to Spike? I would LOVE to know at what point JW decided to pair up B & S. I remember reading an interview with JM during Season 4 (I think) where he was asked who he'd like to see Spike end up with and he said Faith. As a matter of fact if I could ask Joss one question that's what it would be.
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Post by Dalton on Jul 13, 2003 14:38:14 GMT -5
Deborah -- I read an interview with JM somewhere (can't remember) and the story goes that sometime around/after the filming of "Something Blue", Joss pulled JM aside and said something like "Next season, you're gonna go for Buffy". Here's a link to a thoughtful opinion on Riley and his place in the Buffyverse. Well-written, I liked it. I like Riley more in reruns than I did at first. www.slayage.com/articles/030116-riley.html Athene V.
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Post by Dalton on Jul 13, 2003 14:40:17 GMT -5
Spoiler Slayer just yesterday posted a synopsis of Episode 17 that knocked my socks off. If parts of this are really true, I'm thinking this may be one of my favorite episodes. ever.
Their synopsis differed quite a bit from the spoilers regarding the same episode in Scoop Me's 'Inside Dish' today. I've opened up a place to discuss on the spoiler boards.
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Post by Dalton on Jul 13, 2003 14:42:10 GMT -5
Athene, now that you mention it I do recall reading that same quote where Joss tells JM to get ready....I think it was in response to JM asking Joss for at least two weeks notice before he'd have to take his shirt off in a scene so he'd have plenty of time to work out and tone up. But going for Buffy and getting Buffy are not quite the same. And he doesn't get Buffy till Season Six. I'd still love to ask Joss when HE first got the idea and if their pairing was always meant to be temporary and designed to exemplify the *bad choices* that we all make when we are young. Remember how after the so called AR ME was constantly beating that drum?
Deborah Cohen
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Post by Dalton on Jul 13, 2003 14:43:08 GMT -5
Me, Me, Me, my turn!!
My question is for JM.
Voulez vous la couche avec moi?
I may be old, but I'm not dead. Yet.
Lee Parish
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Post by Dalton on Jul 13, 2003 14:43:59 GMT -5
You have got to STOP causing me to start laughing out loud at work. What I do is NOT funny and people are starting to get suspicious.
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Post by Dalton on Jul 13, 2003 14:45:19 GMT -5
I would be happy to offer my GOTR Mad Brilliant CD as a prize in a poetry contest. I listened to it four times to sort out my reactions, and now that I have helped the band recoup their production costs I'm willing to offer it up to a higher cause. We should pick a theme, a form (ie Limricks, Haiku,free choice etc.) or maybe require that a particular word be used somewhere in the verses. I'll leave the creative details in the hands of our Poet Laureate, and the details of submission and voting in Vlad's capable technopagan claws.
Rusty Goode
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Post by Dalton on Jul 13, 2003 14:46:25 GMT -5
OK. I finally got thru the posts I hadn't read when I made this offer. For a winner who doesn't want the GOTR CD I will be happy to substitute a CD of what I call Spuffy Songs. They're my picks for stuff that I relate to various stages in Spike and Buffy relationship. They are also not going to be to everyone's taste, but a free prize is a free prize people.
Rusty Goode
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Post by Dalton on Jul 13, 2003 14:47:37 GMT -5
I was at a book store the other day looking for a copy of "Bite Me" (didn't find) but I did see a whole bunch of novells based on the show including "Pretty Maids All In A Row" which is the only one I'd previously heard of. Can anyone tell me if it's worth reading?
Deborah Cohen
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Post by Dalton on Jul 13, 2003 14:48:36 GMT -5
Oops. Shame on me. Sorry about the extra "L" in Novel.
Deborah Cohen
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Post by Dalton on Jul 13, 2003 14:50:56 GMT -5
There's the GOTR Mad Brilliant CD (available on ebay)and there are two singles out that are also on that CD, David Letterman & Valerie.
I'll share a little more about what U actually think about the CD.
James is best with low register, growly, hoarse, short note songs. He unfortunately can't hold a long, higher note without going flat. His style is more Sid Vicious than Rolling Stones, although certainly not that full bore. In fact I think he would sound better if he did let his voice go full out punk. Lyrical ballads are not his strength. The CD did start to grow on me about the 3rd time I ran thru it. This is a garage band that needs more seasoning both musically and lyric-wise.
Jame's lyrics struck me as too personal, without being memorable. They're obviously heart felt. They identify a romantic who fails at love over and over without seeming to know why women leave him. The songs talk about the mechanics of what happened, and what he wishes he could have been to these women, but nothing about his role in the breakup. Sometimes the lyrics are hard to hear so I may have missed something, and I generally listen to music in my car, so sometimes I get distracted. I'd be happy to hear someone else's impression.
PS. Dangerous is just creepy without the sentiment behind it meaning to be. I can't listen to it.
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Post by Dalton on Jul 13, 2003 14:51:58 GMT -5
Yes, it's one of the better ones.
Rusty Goode
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Post by Dalton on Jul 13, 2003 14:52:53 GMT -5
Rusty wrote: "You have got to STOP causing me to start laughing out loud at work. What I do is NOT funny and people are starting to get suspicious."
Uh-huh ...
"Oh, stop it, Spike, you evil, soulless, thing! *kisskiss* I'm not doing this again - EVER! *kisskissgropegropekissgropekissgropegropeunzippopoutWHOOPS!*
Tsk, tsk; this sounds familiar - blame the irresistable object instead of your own lack of discipline. A lady after Buffy's own S6 heart indeed.
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Post by Dalton on Jul 13, 2003 14:54:44 GMT -5
My dislike of Riley stems from this: in season 4, which had some great moments but in my opinion was the weakest season overall, Buffy falls in love with a guy who is committed to fighting the forces of evil, yet had divided loyalties between her and the government. Buffy, being an angst addict, weakly tries to distance herself, but she's just too attracted to that which she shouldn't have. Eventually she emotionally distances herself from him in season 5, which she's prone to do from time to time. Riley doesn't know her well enough to deal, and decided to get sucked off by some vampires for no decent reason I can think of. In the midst of all this, the man who she should have given a chance to after Angel left has been virtually forgotten, living in his parents' basement. Riley, to me, is the symbol of lost opportunity between Buffy and Xander. An exploration of a romantic relationship between these two in season 4 would have made perfect sense, even if in the end it wouldn't have worked out. I know this much for certain: if Xander had been with Buffy romantically during her mother's hospitalization, he would not have allowed her to pull away from him like that....they'd seen and shared too much, and he has a history of telling her what she doesn't want to hear in order to help her. In short, Xander has more courage in his little finger than Riley did in his whole body, and HE deserved a chance to be with the woman he will always love. Oh, and one more thing: Xander's loyalties, at least in his own mind, have never been divided. Buffy first, last and always. WHat more can you ask from a man?
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