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Post by Sara on Apr 18, 2007 22:04:44 GMT -5
Nope. But the few clues we did have suggested Penny wasn't the pilot: the photo was only a copy printed from a computer, while we know Penny had a regular photo in a frame, and a book written in a foreign language.
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Post by Sara on Apr 18, 2007 22:06:30 GMT -5
Whew! I thought I was losing my mind there for a minute. So, someone we haven't seen before. She doesn't look like Penny after a season on the Copacabana Beach. She looks decidedly Brazilian or Hispanic. I'm pretty sure the guys we saw at the end of season 2, working for Penny in the monitoring station, were Brazilian. So that would definitely make sense.
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Post by Squeemonster on Apr 18, 2007 22:11:17 GMT -5
Heeee! Whistling BOTRK moment. ;D Sacrifice and tests and a punch in the nose. Themes, much? Jack brings the sardonic truism. "Enjoy it. I'm sure something will go wrong soon enough." See Kate flirt with Jack. See Jack sort of flirt with Kate. Flirt, Kate, flirt. Smile enigmatically, Jack, smile enigmatically. Flirt! Smile! Go sit with new girlfriend, Jack. See Kate go all frowny. See Kate go jump Sawyer's bones in an effort to use sex to assuage her emotional pain. Smooch, Kate, smooch! (And take off his shirt already, woman!) Shut up, Sawyer, and hit that! Bring the sex and angst like nobody's business.
People, people, people. How many times will you ignore my sensible and logical advice. Threesome. There's always room for a threesome.OK, back to the beach blanket bingo crew. Heeee! The guy with a hook story in Korean and Hurley still falls for it. ;D Des is expecting Penny to come there, for sure. Ooops. Helicopter go boom. Ah - the lights in the sky are a jumper? Parachute with emergency beacon thingee? OMG Lola, you're killing me!!
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Post by Karen on Apr 18, 2007 22:13:57 GMT -5
Heeee! Whistling BOTRK moment. ;D Sacrifice and tests and a punch in the nose. Themes, much? Jack brings the sardonic truism. "Enjoy it. I'm sure something will go wrong soon enough." See Kate flirt with Jack. See Jack sort of flirt with Kate. Flirt, Kate, flirt. Smile enigmatically, Jack, smile enigmatically. Flirt! Smile! Go sit with new girlfriend, Jack. See Kate go all frowny. See Kate go jump Sawyer's bones in an effort to use sex to assuage her emotional pain. Smooch, Kate, smooch! (And take off his shirt already, woman!) Shut up, Sawyer, and hit that! Bring the sex and angst like nobody's business. People, people, people. How many times will you ignore my sensible and logical advice. Threesome. There's always room for a threesome.OK, back to the beach blanket bingo crew. Heeee! The guy with a hook story in Korean and Hurley still falls for it. ;D Des is expecting Penny to come there, for sure. Ooops. Helicopter go boom. Ah - the lights in the sky are a jumper? Parachute with emergency beacon thingee?
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Post by Lola m on Apr 18, 2007 22:14:20 GMT -5
How apropos that Charlie is the one being all sensible about not going into the jungle at night when there are probably Rousseau traps there. 'Course, Desmond should have remembered that all his flash-forwards (other than the blinky in sky thing) were during the day. Ruth. Huh. His fiance? After 6 years of dating? So this is all before the whole thing with Penny. He went boom and was helpe up by a monk and just "knew I was supposed to go with him". More talk about sacrifice. So, when Ruth tells him "next time, just tell the girl you're too bloody scared", he carries that forward to his relationship withe Penny later. Sawyer and Jack playing ping pong, getting sweaty and flirting? I'm in heaven, I tell you!!! And of course, Sawyer figures out what happened last night. Well, just use Hurley as your step ladder then. A French version of Catch-22? And other back-packy things. And a phone! Heeeee. "Dead." "Shocker." The picture. So, it's either Penny, or someone who knew her, or knew Desmond, or was the photographer, or picked up the picture and just happened to use it as a bookmark, or . . .
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Post by Lola m on Apr 18, 2007 22:19:54 GMT -5
Awwwww - the mix tape. Which is basically the Phil Collins tape he stole from Bernard. I like how Sawyer just flat out asks her. And also how he just steps right past her denials and bluster and tells her "all you gotta do is ask". Interesting conversation in the jungle. "Why didn't you just tell us?" "Would you have come if I did?" "Of course." Because he doesn't mean, if I told you about how I think Penny is arriving. He means, if I tell you about getting a spear thru the neck. But why does it have to happen exactly like that? The person has already jumped out of the helicopter and arrived, presumably? What would a speared Charlie have to do with finding Penny? So, now we're at the point where Charlie died before . . . and Des can't go thru with it. So, this is his "sacrifice for the greater good" thing? Because he thinks saving Charlie means he won't find Penny? This is the parallel to the flashback? But the flashback also talked about a test. Maybe this was a test of if he was a good enough man to save Charlie. And now Charlie and Hurley and Jin know what Des was up to, like Sawyer knew what Kate was up to.
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Post by Lola m on Apr 18, 2007 22:34:29 GMT -5
The beach blanket bingo foursome split up and Charlie confronts Desmond - who is all "I keep saving you and it keeps happening". Talking about how he was supposed to let him die. Ahh, and he does relate it all to the previous theme of a "test". But was the test to let him die or to prove that you'd save him? Weren't you right before to question the idea of agreeing to kill your son? Well, and even if you do go along with the whole sacrifice bible story, it's not like God told you to let Charlie die. You decided on your own that that was necessary. They all are still assuming it's Penny, but I'll bet it's not. Flash-back again. Oh, perfect! Getting fired from his monk-dom means he meets love-of-his-life Penny. Heee! So, that makes him Maria in the Island Sound of Music production. ;D Ha! Not Penny. I knew it. But she knows Desmond. And I don't think he knows her.
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Post by Lola m on Apr 18, 2007 22:39:50 GMT -5
Maybe the blinky thing was the President's Escape Pod from Air Force One. Escape From Crapphole Island. Send in Snake Plisken!!! That was the funniest line of the whole ep, wasn't it? ;D ;D ;D **happy sigh** Does it get any better than that? Ahhhhh! Portuguese! I saw the words "mais" and "un" and guessed French. But I should have thought of Portuguese. I bet the parachutist is someone hired by Penny, or on Penny's team or something. Oooh. Or maybe for her daddy? Although the mysterious Island magnetics and what not will probably make it impossible to use. ;D
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Post by Lola m on Apr 18, 2007 22:40:23 GMT -5
I am afraid that if Charlie does not die, one of the other 3 guys will. If not Charlie, It may be either Desmond. Jin. or Hurley. Please not Hurley! Not Jin! I am betting someone other than Charlie dies tonight.
What if it's Desmond who dies?
As long as it's not Vincent....
GAIL Vincent will never die. He is the Island mastermind, after all. ;D
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Post by Lola m on Apr 18, 2007 22:41:30 GMT -5
Wow. Sawyer didn't actually swing his cod at Jack. He just kept the info to himself, except for letting Kate know he wasn't in the dark. Penelope reads Portuguese? I think it's more likely one of her Ice Station ZebraƓ agents. Ah, drunk monk.... Ah, darnit, Brother Superior, take a swig and give him another opportunity. CRAP. What a bunch of crappy monks. Well, maybe not. And now we see the compassion in his face. "Whatever comes next" "Dude, even if I spoke Korean, it wouldn't make sense" And now, the pre-death conversation. And Desomond is keeping an eye on the trap....Whoa, did it peg his guitar? Whoa. Brain share on the "drunk monk" thing. That's actually what I wrote in my notes . . .
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Post by Lola m on Apr 18, 2007 22:42:12 GMT -5
Charlie's gonna be pissed. And not in the good way. Not that anyone can blame him. . .. He was, after all, an almost sacrificial lamb. Literally, according to Desmond.
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Post by Lola m on Apr 18, 2007 22:44:03 GMT -5
There was the easter egg! The lady who didn't sell Desmond the ring was in the photo on the monk's desk. You win the clever pants for sure, Sara! I didin't spot anything eggy in the slightest! ;D But it makes sense, what with the monk setting him on the road to his destiny with Penny and all.
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Post by Lola m on Apr 18, 2007 22:45:29 GMT -5
As did I, I am glad nobody died. Not Penny, but most definitely someone she sent! This show is really getting freaking good. I am so glad I stuck with it. And without a doubt one of the top 5 moments for me in this entire series was Jin's ghost story. Without a doubt. The ghost story, the various half-nekkidness, the flirting, and Sawyer's line about having to play ping-pong every 8 and a half minutes. ;D
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Post by Lola m on Apr 18, 2007 22:47:27 GMT -5
Heeee! Whistling BOTRK moment. ;D Sacrifice and tests and a punch in the nose. Themes, much? Jack brings the sardonic truism. "Enjoy it. I'm sure something will go wrong soon enough." See Kate flirt with Jack. See Jack sort of flirt with Kate. Flirt, Kate, flirt. Smile enigmatically, Jack, smile enigmatically. Flirt! Smile! Go sit with new girlfriend, Jack. See Kate go all frowny. See Kate go jump Sawyer's bones in an effort to use sex to assuage her emotional pain. Smooch, Kate, smooch! (And take off his shirt already, woman!) Shut up, Sawyer, and hit that! Bring the sex and angst like nobody's business.
People, people, people. How many times will you ignore my sensible and logical advice. Threesome. There's always room for a threesome.OK, back to the beach blanket bingo crew. Heeee! The guy with a hook story in Korean and Hurley still falls for it. ;D Des is expecting Penny to come there, for sure. Ooops. Helicopter go boom. Ah - the lights in the sky are a jumper? Parachute with emergency beacon thingee? OMG Lola, you're killing me!!
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Post by Pixi on Apr 19, 2007 7:10:25 GMT -5
Okay, that was a bit startling... no kidding! But I thought to myself. WOW! what a way to start the show! Then I was relieved that Charlie was not dead. Edit: not sure why I was relieved , Charlie is not one of my favorite characters. *shrug* Hee! I liked the opener. I thought. Okay then we're finally killing Charlie, no fuss, no muss. Good scene. And then of course it was a flash forward.
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