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Post by Lola m on Jan 26, 2008 23:47:25 GMT -5
Love the banter in the car, and the fun synchronized movements of Tosh and Ianto in the back. ;D
Of course. The fish is wired on cocaine. And doing the classic villain over-dramatizing and pontificating.
Jack's back! Woot!! I love seeing Gwen in charge and the gang all organized and actually sort of competant.
And I like seeing that they're mad, not just because he left, but because he left without telling them a lot of stuff they'd need to know in order to handle things without him.
Very very excellent scene, with the "I found my Doctor" and everyone's different understanding of what that means. And the look between him and Ianto over the "I came back for you . . . all of you" stuff. Layers! I always like layers.
Ooooooooooooooooooh! What a lovely lovely lovely intro for our boy Capt John! The outfit. The lingo. The "which artery do you usually sever" and "stop" "no" ruthlessness. And the bar?! "Go, stay, one of everything, oh did I mention I'm armed?" **gets happy happy shiver**
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Post by Lola m on Jan 26, 2008 23:56:31 GMT -5
Ha!!!! From "that never beeps" to "Help me Obi Wan Kenobi". I love this episode and want to have its babies. Not to mention clever clever Ianto. Now - bar fight! The bestest bar fight that was ever fought. With the best musical accompanyment. And the best snarking by the gang in the cab on the way over. Plus? "I worked my way up through the ranks." "I'll bet the ranks are very grateful." Wicked good line.
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Post by Lola m on Jan 27, 2008 0:13:35 GMT -5
You went to murder rehab? ;D Ok, now with info and the plot. Time Agency is gone . . . only 7 left? And does that include Jack? Torchwood? Not Excalibur? Trapped in a time loop for 5 years? What I wouldn't give . .. . (Ok I realize there's lots of more serious or intriging things I could/should be noting here, but for this first time all the way thru the ep? I just gotta bask in the pretty and the sexy and the ooh la la. I'm with Tosh all the way here. "I bet you were" indeed!!) Just . . . oh can't even quote all the goodness . . . . Time Agent. That was in the past. Um . . . yeah. And the future. And the now. Kinda all summed up in "time" agent. Good. Make him tell you stuff, Gwen. Of course, he only says so much before the ring is found and then he goes back inside himself. Gwen, don't let him. Push!! Ask for specifics and what is actually going on! I can understand the need to get at the things that hurt you guys, but you gotta pick up on clues and then pursue them. "Here, now, the person I am now, that's what I'm proud of" "I saw the end of the world" and "after it was all over" are all sentences just chock full of clues to be investigated. And Jack needs to learn that he doesn't have to have a sexual / romantic / love kind of connection in order to make an emotional connection. Friends, Jack!! You can talk to them too!
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Post by Rachael on Jan 27, 2008 0:26:08 GMT -5
Crossover squee: I am delighted with JM doing such a good job translating this character and making him different from Spike, despite the cocky, sexy-bastard stereotype. JM worked out the differences between the two so I'm really impressed. Which is a conversation for later when I am not so tired, but please feel free to take it up in my absence... Looking forward to the next ep. Hmph. I had quite the opposite reaction - I just thought it was Spike redux, and couldn't see any truly significant character differences. And I'm with Spring; the single entendres got old very quickly. It's possible I'm just not happy with Torchwood. I love looking at Jack, and that's pretty much what I love. 'Course, they had a couple of stellar eps last season, so....
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Post by Lola m on Jan 27, 2008 0:26:41 GMT -5
Ah, the lovely alpha posturing. OMG. Flirt a bit. Yeah. That's the answer, Gwen. Aw. Sweet chatting with Reese. And, you took your eyes off him. Oh, Gwen. Remember the rules!! Once a con man, always a con man. Ay yup! Don't rely on him. Check! A lot you don't know about him. Uh huh. All very true. And still not a good reason to walk in front of John and pick up the cannister and let him get the jump (hee!) on you. Paralyzing lip gloss! So. Much. Love. He's Saffron!!! And then, there's that vulnerability and real something peeking out again. "He won't stay with you. He and I shared something." Or is that all a con, as well? And now look where you are, Gwen. All for not following some basic rules. Ah, I like Owen and Tosh, bonding over their lack of life and so on. And she's still hoping and he's still teasing. And there's John, showing just how ruthless he is. Damn! Shot Owen!
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Post by Lola m on Jan 27, 2008 0:50:40 GMT -5
Huh. Offices are exotic to Jack. And what an adorably awkward and sweet asking out on a date moment. "You're good on roofs." Heh!! Interesting. John wants to get rid of Ianto by sending him off to find his friends; knows he needs to head off to save the team . . . And why is John doing this? Why else. Money!! What I want. Join up again. Lots of worlds. Sparkling with wonder. Move on. Is that the real reason he pushed him off the roof? Does he know Jack won't die? No, I think he thinks he killed you. Because rejection is not something he's gonna take. And he didn't kill you because you're Jack's people. Or perhaps he just didn't feel like it at the time. A man of unpredictable feelings and reactions, I'm thinking. Ouch! That's gonna sting, getting bent back the right way, isn't it Jack? Yeah. The rehab really didn't take. Good! They found Gwen! Back to Mr Fish. Which they should have thought of. And nope. He definitel thought Jack was dead. Whoa. The way Jack says, "You can't kill me. I can't die. Ever." For once, he looks like that's a good thing! Ooooh, Ianto's angry! And Jack. Jack is steamed as well. Oh, my! She was a clever murder victim, wasn't she? Neat trick, making him work so hard to hunt down the bomb that will kill him. And Ianto, with the stopwatch? Heeee! Oh, clever clever John. And strangely attractive. He's always got another twist in him. Oooooh. What clever plan do Gwen and Jack have? What's with the quick glance?
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Post by Lola m on Jan 27, 2008 0:58:24 GMT -5
Oh, nicely done trick to save the day! And heh! "Now we'll have to avoid ourselves all night." Oooh! Good bye kiss! And the pout. Noooooooooooooo! Cliff hanger! "Who's Gray?" 'Cuz when Jack says "it's nothing" you know it's really really really something. Now I must watch this about, oh, 7 million more times. ;D
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Post by Lola m on Jan 27, 2008 1:01:09 GMT -5
Preview minutes on digital channel: *incoherent squee* *ded of happy* ;D **joins you in the ded of happy and incoherent squeefulness** So. Happy. So. Very. Happy. ;D
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Post by Lola m on Jan 27, 2008 1:06:02 GMT -5
My god, that was about 900 shades of excellent... Oh my yes. At least 900. Possibly more. ;D
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Post by Julia, wrought iron-y on Jan 27, 2008 1:09:35 GMT -5
Oh, yeah, to all of that.
Julia, especially Capt. John's reaction to Capt. Jack's revival. And Ianto's shirt.
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Post by Lola m on Jan 27, 2008 1:09:53 GMT -5
Crossover squee: I am delighted with JM doing such a good job translating this character and making him different from Spike, despite the cocky, sexy-bastard stereotype. JM worked out the differences between the two so I'm really impressed. Which is a conversation for later when I am not so tired, but please feel free to take it up in my absence... Looking forward to the next ep. **nods** With the accent and the sexy and the cocky bastard thing, I was expecting to have him be completely Spike to me as I watched. Only, not really. I mean, yeah, of course I had "oh, that's so Spike-ish" moments, but this was definitely a different character.
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Post by Lola m on Jan 27, 2008 1:13:54 GMT -5
Also, I thought the critter in the stolen car looked more like a lionfish than a blowfish, because I grew up in a house with a big tropical fishtank. However, if they made a mistake and it really WAS supposed to be a blowfish, check out the .com site of the same name for a giggle. But make sure you don't look at work and that there are no children present. And speaking of same critter...was anybody else holding it in their mind that the JM character was the fishy guy in the stolen car? I thought they were supposed to be intertwined somehow at first. And then I realized that they were just using the fishy guy as a way to explain VERY briefly whose role was what in the team, and what important person was missing. Which...okay fine but how many viewers are that new that they don't know who's missing and who's the "heart" and who's the "geek" and who's the "medic" and who's the "love interest" in the show?Potentially? Millions. The first season was shown on BBC3 at 10pm and then repeated on BBC2 late. This season is going to be on in slightly edited form at 7pm, pre-watershed, so there's an entirely new family audience. Well, hopefully new. Season 1 was really working on 'adult'. They've promised the kissing stays in ;D So that "Hey kids, did you miss me?" becomes very meta, because there's a whole audience of kids who watched Captain Jack on Doctor Who and had to miss him in his spin off series but now he's back in a timeslot they can watch. Oh, that does put more than one spin on it. I did not realize that!
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Post by Lola m on Jan 27, 2008 1:28:15 GMT -5
What is about James Marsters playing a character mostly evil and perpetually horny that rocks my world so mightily? I'm not sure I want to examine that too closely, but this episode hit all the right kinks for me. Me too. Me very much too. And yes, I think it's best I don't examine that at all, much less too closely. I agree. The true newbies can see one level of introduction and the rest of us are caught up on how everyone is doing now. Jack seems to be rather adorably uncertain of himself with Ianto. And, yes, Ianto looks to be very able to take care of himself. Sounds like you have it just fine. Add in that he and the woman were probably pulling some kind of con together and that the blowfish guy was some probably some kind of partial partner or mixed up in it later, and I think that's the main gist of it all. I'm betting on some kind of con within a con thing.
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Post by Lola m on Jan 27, 2008 1:34:09 GMT -5
It was great, of course. Fast and clever. But am I the only person who actually misses some of the angst and darkness? (Which surprises, me, incidentally, since I generally found it obvious and clumsy last season). Owen, especially, has changed completely. I didn't like his character much last season, but now I actually think that there was something quite unique about that weird sociopath. ;D Oh I don't doubt we'll get some nice angst and darkness as well as some sociopathic Owen. I just think they've had to get very practical and hard-working while Jack was gone. I do think you are right about this, though. Now, if they write it well, using good characterization to show us how the team members have had to change, etc., then it will work. And then they can include some darkness without having it be all consuming. We'll just have to see how the rest of the season plays out.
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Post by Lola m on Jan 27, 2008 1:35:45 GMT -5
Jan and I just saw the episode and I have to say we loved it. It felt like James sent the show into overdrive as though John Barrowman weren't enough of a spark plug for the rest of the cast. The kiss/fight scene was really great. The scene where James tries to tempt Cap'n Jack to join him and con their way across the galaxies together reminded me somehow of "The Man Who would be King." Fun episode and a great start to a new season. Eetah! And that is a very interesting comparison. I hope she starts feeling very much better soon!
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