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House
Nov 4, 2008 16:12:21 GMT -5
Post by SpringSummers on Nov 4, 2008 16:12:21 GMT -5
I've sounded pretty negative in the past couple of posts. I thought I would articulate why I'm continuing to watch the show. *It's a medical drama, so I'm bound to watch it sooner or later. *I like all the actors and I think Hugh Laurie does a brilliant job. *I'm intrigued by the homages to Watson and Holmes, even though I'm not that familiar with Sherlock Holmes. *The writing has its ups and downs; it gets plus points for often creative case of the weeks and snappy dialogue. House is a fascinatingly written character. In real life I would avoid him like the plague, but it's a great character study. The House/Wilson relationship is also very interesting in that it's a platonic friendship and yet not a platonic relationship. However, the writing gets minus points for lack of real world and medical realism. I don't buy for a second that House would really be allowed to do everything that he has done (routinely searching patients property without permission, harrassing and insulting pretty much everyone, abusing drugs, and countless other violations of rules and regulations) without grave consequences. House is completely brilliant, yes, but I don't buy that he's the only doctor in the world as brilliant as he is; my guess it that there is probably a handful of doctors in the world who can do what he does, so there's no need to put up with his behavior. There are a lot of minor medical details that I know are wrong and I'm not even a doctor yet. I realize that the things that bother me don't bother everyone else as much. So I don't find funny the things that other people find funny. For me, this show is about medicine. medicine is a serious thing. To enjoy House's antics seems to me to be akin to enabling his behavior, and I'm not OK doing that. And I realize that House is a fictional character, but I take this pretty seriously as it's my future profession. So I'm continuing to watch, even though it's at the bottom of my tv priority list. I am confused about the "enjoying his antics is akin to enabling his behavior." I know that you know that enjoying the antics of a fictional character does not"enable his behavior." So - do you mean that it . . . feels that way to you? That if you allowed yourself to enjoy his antics, it would feel to you as if you were giving tacit approval to such behavior in real life? I agree that in RL, no matter HOW brilliant you were, it would be hard to get away with House's outrageous behavior for as long as he has (though it can definitely happen - I'm sure we can all name people whose talents/brilliance allowed them to rise pretty far, for quite a long time, before the fall). I do see the show much as I saw Buffy - reality writ large and operatically. And like BtVS, I think that though it may not be perfect in the details, I think of House as very emotionally honest. The characters and their behavior resonate with who they are- they are consistently themselves. This kind of "emotional truth" this depiction of our inner lives as they really are (even if the external sometimes suffers in the accuracy of the details) is what I prize most - it's why I can keep on watching and enjoying House, though I long ago gave up on Grey's Anatomy, where the characters and their behavior make no sense in the universe I live in, and don't jive with human nature as I've come to know it.
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House
Nov 4, 2008 16:21:47 GMT -5
Post by Sara on Nov 4, 2008 16:21:47 GMT -5
I've sounded pretty negative in the past couple of posts. I thought I would articulate why I'm continuing to watch the show. *It's a medical drama, so I'm bound to watch it sooner or later. *I like all the actors and I think Hugh Laurie does a brilliant job. *I'm intrigued by the homages to Watson and Holmes, even though I'm not that familiar with Sherlock Holmes. *The writing has its ups and downs; it gets plus points for often creative case of the weeks and snappy dialogue. House is a fascinatingly written character. In real life I would avoid him like the plague, but it's a great character study. The House/Wilson relationship is also very interesting in that it's a platonic friendship and yet not a platonic relationship. However, the writing gets minus points for lack of real world and medical realism. I don't buy for a second that House would really be allowed to do everything that he has done (routinely searching patients property without permission, harrassing and insulting pretty much everyone, abusing drugs, and countless other violations of rules and regulations) without grave consequences. House is completely brilliant, yes, but I don't buy that he's the only doctor in the world as brilliant as he is; my guess it that there is probably a handful of doctors in the world who can do what he does, so there's no need to put up with his behavior. There are a lot of minor medical details that I know are wrong and I'm not even a doctor yet. I realize that the things that bother me don't bother everyone else as much. So I don't find funny the things that other people find funny. For me, this show is about medicine. medicine is a serious thing. To enjoy House's antics seems to me to be akin to enabling his behavior, and I'm not OK doing that. And I realize that House is a fictional character, but I take this pretty seriously as it's my future profession. So I'm continuing to watch, even though it's at the bottom of my tv priority list. I am confused about the "enjoying his antics is akin to enabling his behavior." I know that you know that enjoying the antics of a fictional character does not"enable his behavior." So - do you mean that it . . . feels that way to you? That if you allowed yourself to enjoy his antics, it would feel to you as if you were giving tacit approval to such behavior in real life? I agree that in RL, no matter HOW brilliant you were, it would be hard to get away with House's outrageous behavior for as long as he has (though it can definitely happen - I'm sure we can all name people whose talents/brilliance allowed them to rise pretty far, for quite a long time, before the fall).I do see the show much as I saw Buffy - reality writ large and operatically. And like BtVS, I think that though it may not be perfect in the details, I think of House as very emotionally honest. The characters and their behavior resonate with who they are- they are consistently themselves. This kind of "emotional truth" this depiction of our inner lives as they really are (even if the external sometimes suffers in the accuracy of the details) is what I prize most - it's why I can keep on watching and enjoying House, though I long ago gave up on Grey's Anatomy, where the characters and their behavior make no sense in the universe I live in, and don't jive with human nature as I've come to know it. You only have to go so far as professional sports to find numerous examples of folks who get away with all kinds of atrocious behavior solely because they are so very good at what they're being paid to do.
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House
Nov 4, 2008 17:36:39 GMT -5
Post by Spaced Out Looney on Nov 4, 2008 17:36:39 GMT -5
I've sounded pretty negative in the past couple of posts. I thought I would articulate why I'm continuing to watch the show. *It's a medical drama, so I'm bound to watch it sooner or later. *I like all the actors and I think Hugh Laurie does a brilliant job. *I'm intrigued by the homages to Watson and Holmes, even though I'm not that familiar with Sherlock Holmes. *The writing has its ups and downs; it gets plus points for often creative case of the weeks and snappy dialogue. House is a fascinatingly written character. In real life I would avoid him like the plague, but it's a great character study. The House/Wilson relationship is also very interesting in that it's a platonic friendship and yet not a platonic relationship. However, the writing gets minus points for lack of real world and medical realism. I don't buy for a second that House would really be allowed to do everything that he has done (routinely searching patients property without permission, harrassing and insulting pretty much everyone, abusing drugs, and countless other violations of rules and regulations) without grave consequences. House is completely brilliant, yes, but I don't buy that he's the only doctor in the world as brilliant as he is; my guess it that there is probably a handful of doctors in the world who can do what he does, so there's no need to put up with his behavior. There are a lot of minor medical details that I know are wrong and I'm not even a doctor yet. I realize that the things that bother me don't bother everyone else as much. So I don't find funny the things that other people find funny. For me, this show is about medicine. medicine is a serious thing. To enjoy House's antics seems to me to be akin to enabling his behavior, and I'm not OK doing that. And I realize that House is a fictional character, but I take this pretty seriously as it's my future profession. So I'm continuing to watch, even though it's at the bottom of my tv priority list. I am confused about the "enjoying his antics is akin to enabling his behavior." I know that you know that enjoying the antics of a fictional character does not"enable his behavior."
So - do you mean that it . . . feels that way to you? That if you allowed yourself to enjoy his antics, it would feel to you as if you were giving tacit approval to such behavior in real life?I agree that in RL, no matter HOW brilliant you were, it would be hard to get away with House's outrageous behavior for as long as he has (though it can definitely happen - I'm sure we can all name people whose talents/brilliance allowed them to rise pretty far, for quite a long time, before the fall). I do see the show much as I saw Buffy - reality writ large and operatically. And like BtVS, I think that though it may not be perfect in the details, I think of House as very emotionally honest. The characters and their behavior resonate with who they are- they are consistently themselves. This kind of "emotional truth" this depiction of our inner lives as they really are (even if the external sometimes suffers in the accuracy of the details) is what I prize most - it's why I can keep on watching and enjoying House, though I long ago gave up on Grey's Anatomy, where the characters and their behavior make no sense in the universe I live in, and don't jive with human nature as I've come to know it. Yes, that's it exactly.As far as attention to detail goes, it bothers me because it's a medical drama. In legal dramas or cop dramas, I can usually shrug off anything I notice because it's not my area of interest. And I agree about the emotional truth aspect.
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House
Nov 5, 2008 22:15:01 GMT -5
Post by Lola m on Nov 5, 2008 22:15:01 GMT -5
House wasn't upset that she was going to have a baby. He was upset that it wasn't going to be his baby. I've been calling Cuddy his Irene Adler since second season, however much I was fond of Stacy. Cuddy's the one for them. Oh excellent comparison! Totally and completely, yes. I vote for HouseCuddyWilson steamy hot sexings and then a "who's the daddy" DNA-testin' extravaganza!!
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House
Nov 5, 2008 22:18:10 GMT -5
Post by Lola m on Nov 5, 2008 22:18:10 GMT -5
OK, I'm way behind (House has been pretty low on my tv priority list). Watching 5.4 Birthmarks. I am so sad that Wilson got sucked back into things. I see it less as him getting sucked back in to him coming to realize that he needs something from the relationship, that it brings something to his life he's wanting in some way, or he'd leave. Plus, he's a good oncologist. He should be continuing his good work at Princeton Gen. Heeee! They're trying to decipher so hard and making it all too comlpex. ;D
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House
Nov 5, 2008 22:20:24 GMT -5
Post by Lola m on Nov 5, 2008 22:20:24 GMT -5
"Let's make you healthy, then we'll worry about making you sober." That? Is a really great line. Kutner is just getting better and better. So, House nabbed some skin so he can do a DNA test, didn't he? To see if he is really his son. I thought he took some hair. I don't know enough about this, but I wonder if the embalming process affects the DNA integrity at all. Hair would be logical, with the bit of folicle and all. And now you've got me wondering about embalming's possible affect too.
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House
Nov 5, 2008 22:21:39 GMT -5
Post by Lola m on Nov 5, 2008 22:21:39 GMT -5
I can't even count how many times I've watched it now. ;D I loved that they didn't use any background music. It was dramatic and awkward and angsty and just how it should have been. And then he runs off terrified like the little boy that he is. ;D Exactamundo. Why do you think he was so threatened by Cuddy getting a baby? He wants to be her baby, and he doesn't want any competition. ;D Ding ding ding! Cupie doll for the little lady.
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House
Nov 5, 2008 22:22:40 GMT -5
Post by Lola m on Nov 5, 2008 22:22:40 GMT -5
It was only a matter of time 'til you came over to the House/Wilson side. It is so very very snarky and evil - how can you not love it? **nods** Even without the slashy goodness, it is, isn't it? [/color=red]I always go back to the very intriuging comment that Hugh Laurie made in an interview one time. He said that he felt the show was actually about Wilson; that Wilson was the hero or main character.[/color] Yes. I think even cynical House was sort of wishing he was wrong. Chase is just so very pretty. **pets his pretty pretty hair** [/quote] Interesting. So it's kind of like a Shawshank Redemption type of thing, where Red is really the protagonist even though DuFresne seems to be the main character.[/quote] That was my take on his comment too.
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House
Nov 10, 2008 14:13:30 GMT -5
Post by Spaced Out Looney on Nov 10, 2008 14:13:30 GMT -5
House wasn't upset that she was going to have a baby. He was upset that it wasn't going to be his baby. I've been calling Cuddy his Irene Adler since second season, however much I was fond of Stacy. Cuddy's the one for them. If he can rein in his completely self-destructive impulses for longer than ten minu... Crap. They're doomed, aren't they? Well, maybe we'll get some steamy hot sexings and a HouseCuddy spawn out of it. The only thing worse than having House as your boyfriend? Is having House as your EX boyfriend.
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House
Nov 10, 2008 14:25:55 GMT -5
Post by Spaced Out Looney on Nov 10, 2008 14:25:55 GMT -5
All caught up now. So it's not enough for House's minions to do breaking and entering (and destruction of property, what with the prying open the molding and all), but he's getting them to buy illegal drugs too? I'd like some one to show House that unconditional love really does matter. And also that the Boy Who Cried Wolf scenario is real (he mentioned that in one of the previous episodes this season). Now the case of the week was interesting because the sleepwalking reminded me of an incident with a friend/housemate/fellow Bandie of mine in college. Most everyone else in our house was away on a ski trip one weekend, and my friend started doing what the few of us who were left thought was sleepwalking, but it turned out that he was actually having a brain hemorrhage, which was somehow related to a car accident he had been in a few years before. In fact, at first, I thought that that's where the Case of the Week was going, especially when the girl mentioned an "accident." But it turned out to be something different after all. The idea of sleepwalking or doing anything else in your sleep (especially the anything else in your sleep) is really freaky to me with the lack of control over yourself and all. Sleep is scary enough when you think about, cause people can do a lot of things too you and you wouldn't be able to do anything about them.
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House
Nov 10, 2008 15:44:15 GMT -5
Post by Spaced Out Looney on Nov 10, 2008 15:44:15 GMT -5
Oh, and those last two scenes were great.
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House
Nov 11, 2008 20:21:30 GMT -5
Post by Lola m on Nov 11, 2008 20:21:30 GMT -5
I am rather impressed with the real-feeling awkwardness and faltering in the conversation between House and Cuddy. He's actually allowing himself to be awkward and fumbly, rather than just go completely assholish and mean.
Which is, frankly, a rather amazing feat, considering that he's - you know. Him!
Heeee! And then of course he covers up what is going on by sort of actually telling the truth - just exaggerated. Which they don't believe at all. ;D
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House
Nov 11, 2008 20:28:04 GMT -5
Post by Lola m on Nov 11, 2008 20:28:04 GMT -5
Oh, House. Of course Wilson knows you so well that he knew you really did do something with Cuddy when you made your "joke"!! OMG, House bringing all these random people into his room by telling them the house is for sale? Oy! And yet, so very very "House". ;D The interplay between Cameron and 13 is very interesting.
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House
Nov 11, 2008 20:33:01 GMT -5
Post by Lola m on Nov 11, 2008 20:33:01 GMT -5
All caught up now. So it's not enough for House's minions to do breaking and entering (and destruction of property, what with the prying open the molding and all), but he's getting them to buy illegal drugs too? And they all just keep doing these things. Which, I have to admit, always slightly surprises me. **nods nods nods** We might get some form of each of these with the Cuddy storyline. The lack of control thing is scary to me too.
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House
Nov 11, 2008 20:38:44 GMT -5
Post by Lola m on Nov 11, 2008 20:38:44 GMT -5
Heeee! I love Cuddy's oh so nicely done "oh God you dragged it out of me" bit. ;D
"Maybe novelty and hostility and forbiddenness doesn't have to end badly."
I love that whole conversation between Wilson and Cuddy.
Aaaaaaand we're gonna have a bigger story from the still-bleeding mosquito bite, aren't we?
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