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Post by Sue on Sept 13, 2011 16:18:15 GMT -5
Starts tonight. Thought there might be some comments.
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Post by Lola m on Sept 13, 2011 20:14:27 GMT -5
Nicely scary/dramatic opener! So good to see Sarah. And pretty pretty Nestor C. I like the concept and characters so far. Not totally digging the slightly fakey visuals in the boating scenes - but I think they're doing a good job with the "twins". And of course the big assumption she's making is that her sister killed herself and didn't just find a convenient way to abandon her life. When there's no body, well ... never assume!  Also liking that the "bad" sister is behaving seemingly better than the vanished "good" sister. I expect we'll get lots of flashbacks to completely muddy the "good" and "bad" even more. I'm a fan of the noir, always. |
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Post by SpringSummers on Sept 13, 2011 22:12:00 GMT -5
Nicely scary/dramatic opener! So good to see Sarah. And pretty pretty Nestor C. I like the concept and characters so far. Not totally digging the slightly fakey visuals in the boating scenes - but I think they're doing a good job with the "twins". And of course the big assumption she's making is that her sister killed herself and didn't just find a convenient way to abandon her life. When there's no body, well ... never assume! Also liking that the "bad" sister is behaving seemingly better than the vanished "good" sister. I expect we'll get lots of flashbacks to completely muddy the "good" and "bad" even more. I'm a fan of the noir, always. Appreciate the feedback on this. Hope to see it soon! |
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Post by Sue on Sept 14, 2011 8:14:53 GMT -5
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Post by S'ewing S'cubie on Sept 14, 2011 8:25:00 GMT -5
Dish crashed so I got the first 23 minutes and the last 17. I wasn't aware that I'd gotten so much, so I also saw them in reverse order. Wasn't overly impressed, but to be fair am going to give it a few weeks to find its feet. I do enjoy noir.
SMG looked wonderful. She has changed very little since Buffy days. I had to laugh at the husband (unaware that he's looking at his wife's identical twin) asking if she's lost weight and declaring that she's "too skinny".
I've liked Ioan Grufffudd sincehis Hornblower days and he's quite yumsome as the not-nice rich husband.
That the "nice" sister is nastier than the drug/drink/prostitute sister is a neat twist, especially as the "bad sister's trying to get herself together. There's enough that I'll come back and see how it goes for a while.
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Post by Sue on Sept 14, 2011 9:06:02 GMT -5
Dish crashed so I got the first 23 minutes and the last 17. I wasn't aware that I'd gotten so much, so I also saw them in reverse order. Wasn't overly impressed, but to be fair am going to give it a few weeks to find its feet. I do enjoy noir. SMG looked wonderful. She has changed very little since Buffy days. I had to laugh at the husband (unaware that he's looking at his wife's identical twin) asking if she's lost weight and declaring that she's "too skinny". I've liked Ioan Grufffudd sincehis Hornblower days and he's quite yumsome as the not-nice rich husband. That the "nice" sister is nastier than the drug/drink/prostitute sister is a neat twist, especially as the "bad sister's trying to get herself together. There's enough that I'll come back and see how it goes for a while. The comments thread on TVGuide's followup "how did you like it" article are generally not terribly positive. But most are willing to give it a couple of more episodes. |
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Post by Karen on Sept 14, 2011 10:07:28 GMT -5
Dish crashed so I got the first 23 minutes and the last 17. I wasn't aware that I'd gotten so much, so I also saw them in reverse order. Wasn't overly impressed, but to be fair am going to give it a few weeks to find its feet. I do enjoy noir. SMG looked wonderful. She has changed very little since Buffy days. I had to laugh at the husband (unaware that he's looking at his wife's identical twin) asking if she's lost weight and declaring that she's "too skinny". I've liked Ioan Grufffudd sincehis Hornblower days and he's quite yumsome as the not-nice rich husband. That the "nice" sister is nastier than the drug/drink/prostitute sister is a neat twist, especially as the "bad sister's trying to get herself together. There's enough that I'll come back and see how it goes for a while. The comments thread on TVGuide's followup "how did you like it" article are generally not terribly positive. But most are willing to give it a couple of more episodes. Like most CW shows, this one is starting out a little shaky. They try to 'grab' the audience, but not give too much away in the first episode. I like a slow reveal - similar to the way they developed SPN and even the seemingly 'fluf' of a show - Gossip Girl. Which btw, kicks all kinds of ass in the storytelling, acting and pretty areas. I enjoy SMG's acting, so I'll stick around for the duration. I actually like that we got to see some Buffy-like ass kicking from SMG. Bridget seems to have had a pretty rough life in the past, she had to have picked up some skills. I feel sorry for her sister's best friend's husband, who obviously is very much in love with her twin. (Even tho he is a cad for cheating on his wife with her best friend - he looked really hurt when getting the brush off.) I will have to ignore the fact that the men in Shoefen and Bridget's life must be really 'stupid' to not realize something is not on the up and up. I mean - how long can the detective be kept from the husband's radar? What will happen when the husband finds out - will he keep playing the charade to keep Bridget from being arrested? Will there be a one-armed man?  |
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Post by Julia, wrought iron-y on Sept 14, 2011 10:55:11 GMT -5
Was the man under the mask recognizable? And am I alone in suspecting that the "good" sister may have sent him?
No flames in the brain, but we watch nothing but Chopped on Tuesday and the Mariners have had the wheels fall entirely off, so it's nice to have a distraction.
Julia, one again, I have more shows than I can watch Monday at 10 and Thursday at 9.
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Post by Karen on Sept 14, 2011 20:58:56 GMT -5
Was the man under the mask recognizable? And am I alone in suspecting that the "good" sister may have sent him? No flames in the brain, but we watch nothing but Chopped on Tuesday and the Mariners have had the wheels fall entirely off, so it's nice to have a distraction. Julia, one again, I have more shows than I can watch Monday at 10 and Thursday at 9. Rewatching now. I didn't recognize the masked man, but it sure seemed there was a connection there between him and the 'good' sister. I hope they move away from "The Wish" black eye makeup on Bridget. We get it. She's troubled and angsty. SMG can pull off the dual roles without all the identifying makeup.  I do like the way they are shooting the series, with the muted colors of the set, and the splash of occasional color in wardrobe. |
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Post by Sue on Sept 15, 2011 8:00:44 GMT -5
Watched.
Didn't hate it (once we got past the horribly laughable boat scene -- writers are going to have to learn to work around the budget and not write scenes that can't be filmed.)
Lots of very pretty men. The less we see of Chavon (yeah, I know Siobhan -- but really nit-picky here, again on the writers: pick a name that the viewers can access (maybe not relate to exactly but for some reason that name that is pronounced and spelled so oddly just irritates me)).
Well, throwing in a pregnancy certainly complicates things.
The picture in the jewelry box of SMG and the young blond boy: did I miss a clue? Is that Bridget and a son? Chavon and a son?
And, finally: what woman in her right mind would be cheating on Ioan Gruffudd. He does a nice job of understated acting.
Which leads me to realize that I might actually get more into this show withOUT SMG -- having someone so recognizable distracts me.
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Post by Karen on Sept 15, 2011 9:11:58 GMT -5
Watched. Didn't hate it (once we got past the horribly laughable boat scene -- writers are going to have to learn to work around the budget and not write scenes that can't be filmed.) Lots of very pretty men. The less we see of Chavon (yeah, I know Siobhan -- but really nit-picky here, again on the writers: pick a name that the viewers can access (maybe not relate to exactly but for some reason that name that is pronounced and spelled so oddly just irritates me)). Well, throwing in a pregnancy certainly complicates things. The picture in the jewelry box of SMG and the young blond boy: did I miss a clue? Is that Bridget and a son? Chavon and a son? And, finally: what woman in her right mind would be cheating on Ioan Gruffudd. He does a nice job of understated acting. Which leads me to realize that I might actually get more into this show withOUT SMG -- having someone so recognizable distracts me. I caught that on the second watch - it said 'Chavon and Sean' on the back of the photo, I think. Not sure whose kid it is - but someone close to her, obviously, to have kept the photo. Not sure whose photo it is, tho. Was that a photo Bridget had put there or left by Chavon? Could be a red herring. I think I'll get used to SMG in this role, much like I did DB in Bones. Men very pretty. |
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Post by Sue on Sept 15, 2011 12:17:03 GMT -5
Copying over for both Sharky's comments and my replies: My semi-short & spoiler-free take on Ringer, after watching it last night: It's good to see SMG back, but don't expect Buffy 2. This is a different vehicle without the WOW (Wording of Whedon) factor. What I liked in particular (besides SMG) was the feeling I got of how hard it would be to do what Bridget is doing, trying to slip into your doppelganger's life. To paraphrase Clarence the Angel, "Each man's life touches so many others..." - the sheer audacity of trying to pull off this masquerade is daunting. The show faces two major difficulties for me. First, why do I care about these people? Thus far, I don't. I'm pulling for Bridget to a degree, but that's primarily vestigial Buff-love. And, to date, the Buff-ness of Bridget is akin to the chemically-weakened Slayer of "Helpless". The pilot was humorless, removing one of SMG's most potent weapons. The second difficulty is the onion-factor. This is a series that relies on layers, on revelations, of both characters and plots. The writers have few credits - 3 episodes of Supernatural, about the same of 'Til Death Do Us Part, a couple of TV movies - nothing to hint of the ability to maintain suspense over an extended arc. I hope they surprise me. Will I be watching? Yeah, for now. I want SMG to succeed. If I'm given a character to root for, I can ignore for awhile the quality of the story. This usually is a one-way street for me. Characters I love coupled with a mediocre plot will keep me going, where a brilliant plot about people I hate will lose me.
So, here's hoping the series grows on me.
Allison watched with me and made the same comment. "I feel like we were supposed to care about (whatever interaction was happening) but I don't. Why would I?"Yeah, maybe a little. It was Noah Wylie's character that sucked me into Falling Skies before I found anything interesting about the plot -- although admittedly about half way thru the season they finally introduced some interesting plot/questions.
This is my issue with Mad Men. (And actually I don't really find it to have much of a plot either. But I do like a show to have at least one character that I want to ROOT for. The characters on MM (when I don't actively dislike them) simply bore me. Same thing: why am I supposed to care about him/her? |
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Post by Karen on Sept 15, 2011 21:37:20 GMT -5
Copying over for both Sharky's comments and my replies: My semi-short & spoiler-free take on Ringer, after watching it last night: It's good to see SMG back, but don't expect Buffy 2. This is a different vehicle without the WOW (Wording of Whedon) factor. What I liked in particular (besides SMG) was the feeling I got of how hard it would be to do what Bridget is doing, trying to slip into your doppelganger's life. To paraphrase Clarence the Angel, "Each man's life touches so many others..." - the sheer audacity of trying to pull off this masquerade is daunting. The show faces two major difficulties for me. First, why do I care about these people? Thus far, I don't. I'm pulling for Bridget to a degree, but that's primarily vestigial Buff-love. And, to date, the Buff-ness of Bridget is akin to the chemically-weakened Slayer of "Helpless". The pilot was humorless, removing one of SMG's most potent weapons. The second difficulty is the onion-factor. This is a series that relies on layers, on revelations, of both characters and plots. The writers have few credits - 3 episodes of Supernatural, about the same of 'Til Death Do Us Part, a couple of TV movies - nothing to hint of the ability to maintain suspense over an extended arc. I hope they surprise me. Will I be watching? Yeah, for now. I want SMG to succeed. If I'm given a character to root for, I can ignore for awhile the quality of the story. This usually is a one-way street for me. Characters I love coupled with a mediocre plot will keep me going, where a brilliant plot about people I hate will lose me.
So, here's hoping the series grows on me.
Allison watched with me and made the same comment. "I feel like we were supposed to care about (whatever interaction was happening) but I don't. Why would I?"Yeah, maybe a little. It was Noah Wylie's character that sucked me into Falling Skies before I found anything interesting about the plot -- although admittedly about half way thru the season they finally introduced some interesting plot/questions.
This is my issue with Mad Men. (And actually I don't really find it to have much of a plot either. But I do like a show to have at least one character that I want to ROOT for. The characters on MM (when I don't actively dislike them) simply bore me. Same thing: why am I supposed to care about him/her?That is my only beef about Mad Men - there are not many, or really, any, characters that I feel a connection to, except for maybe Sterling Cooper, because he seems the most 'human', I guess. Or maybe it's because he's unapologetic in his unperfectness. Hmmm...I'll have to think on this. |
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Post by Lola m on Sept 15, 2011 21:46:54 GMT -5
Was the man under the mask recognizable? And am I alone in suspecting that the "good" sister may have sent him? No flames in the brain, but we watch nothing but Chopped on Tuesday and the Mariners have had the wheels fall entirely off, so it's nice to have a distraction. Julia, one again, I have more shows than I can watch Monday at 10 and Thursday at 9. Rewatching now. I didn't recognize the masked man, but it sure seemed there was a connection there between him and the 'good' sister. I hope they move away from "The Wish" black eye makeup on Bridget. We get it. She's troubled and angsty. SMG can pull off the dual roles without all the identifying makeup. I do like the way they are shooting the series, with the muted colors of the set, and the splash of occasional color in wardrobe. I didn't recognize the masked guy either, but I suspect the 'good' sister's husband as being involved somehow. |
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Post by Lola m on Sept 15, 2011 21:51:32 GMT -5
Watched. Didn't hate it (once we got past the horribly laughable boat scene -- writers are going to have to learn to work around the budget and not write scenes that can't be filmed.) Lots of very pretty men. The less we see of Chavon (yeah, I know Siobhan -- but really nit-picky here, again on the writers: pick a name that the viewers can access (maybe not relate to exactly but for some reason that name that is pronounced and spelled so oddly just irritates me)). Well, throwing in a pregnancy certainly complicates things. The picture in the jewelry box of SMG and the young blond boy: did I miss a clue? Is that Bridget and a son? Chavon and a son? And, finally: what woman in her right mind would be cheating on Ioan Gruffudd. He does a nice job of understated acting. Which leads me to realize that I might actually get more into this show withOUT SMG -- having someone so recognizable distracts me. I've decided to live in denial-land and go with the idea that the fakey boat-scenes were deliberately filmed that way. As some kind of Hitchockian-thriller-homage thing. A kind of Vertigo-Marnie-ManWhoKnewTooMuch kind of vibe with SMG as the traditional Hitchcock blonde. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. |
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