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Post by Onjel on Apr 1, 2012 9:08:16 GMT -5
Winter is coming. . ..
Can the dragons be far behind? Welcome to the ILLLTV Game of Thrones Thread! Yes, yes, in our world winter is pretty much over, but not in Westeros. It's just beginning and it can last decades, not just seem like it. This is the location to talk about all things related to the unending quest for control of the Iron Throne. The Seven Kingdoms is a world rich with texture, intrigue and drama and has lots of fodder for fun jousting talk. And, it has cute pets, too. ;D Aired episodes and previews are ripe for the plunder. Post spoilers and we'll mount your head on a spike at the castle walls give you a swift kick in the butt. We don't like spoilers so keep them hidden well or suffer the consequences.Above all, have fun!
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Post by Lola m on Apr 1, 2012 20:03:08 GMT -5
Season 2 premier! Woot!
Ah, psycho Geoffrey. How I haven't missed you.
Mmmmmm. Tyrion, how I HAVE missed you!
"If I were capable of tricking father I'd be emperor of the world by now." HA! Pretty accurate, eh?
You love your children. I remember at the panel at comic con, the actress who plays Cersei saying that was the core of her character - something to always remember about her.
Yay! Daenerys and the dragons! Love them dragons.
Creepy old North guy is creepy. And Jon Snow better watch his step.
Pulling a sword out of a fire usually just means you get a burned hand. Just sayin' you might want to think about that Stannis.
"And how many ships does the lord of light have in his fleet?" HA! Good point, sir. Good point.
Damn. Night is dark and full of terror and the wine is full of poison, I guess.
That was oddly ... bold ... on the part of Baelish. Usually he's more subtle than that. And usually he doesn't almost get his throat cut.
Cersei can't honestly be surprised that Geoffrey would threaten even her, can she?
Damn! Can't you even kill the baby out of sight of the mom? And here comes the purging of all the old king's bastards. Looks like that's not going over too well with the general populace. Crap! And now by hunting down the missing bastard, they are after Arya!
Good opening ep - sets all the players in motion, ready for the next set of moves.
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Post by Onjel on Apr 2, 2012 5:53:39 GMT -5
I'm reading the second book, on which this season is based, right now. I'm surprised, but I like Tyrion as much in the books as I do on screen. It's hard to believe the actor was born and raised in New Jersey. There are some differences, but they are relatively minor, at this point. I can say that I thought the first season was absolutely true to the book. Joffrey is such a dick. I sure hope he gets his comeuppance. Actually, my hope is that Daenerys returns with her dragons, though that would probably cause some problems for Tyrion, Rob & family, Arya, etc. *sigh* Only a man could write a descriptive narrative of a brutal, crude world as well as Martin has. It's amazing. The bastard hunt was more detailed than in the book and boy, oh boy, does it make me hate Cersei even more.
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Post by Lola m on Apr 8, 2012 20:33:38 GMT -5
Such pretty pretty opening credits .... I don't think they're looking for you, Arya. A sword to the nuts is a powerful argument. You should taste her fish pie. HA!! I see what you did there. **smirk** I am not Ned Stark. He was a man of honor. And I am not. ;D I love you, Tyrion. Well, the Northerners are the ones who always deal with stuff first, I'm guessing, so they have a rather different opinion on what is "superstition", eh? Heee! So cute to watch him "shooing" a dire wolf. Now, do they help the woman or not? And do they figure out what he's doing to the boy babies? (My guess is kill them, but who knows! Maybe eat them or sell them or who knows what!) Jon Snow, pragmatist, disappoints his little Night Watch buddy. Is this the end of their bromance? Something tells me they shouldn't have sent this particular head back to the Khaleesi and pissed her off. Hard men rule the world. Bazinga! "He'll call me a whore." "I haven't paid you." I'm sure daddy will see the logic of that. **nods sagely** Yeah, her baby being killed was something that was "poorly handled". Baelish, you are such a asshole sometimes, with your threatening whispery stories. "I hadn't realized peace depended on killing babies." "He didn't realize you were already bought." "You should have stopped at imp." Oh, damn, I love seeing Tyrion using his power. Bronn in charge of the City Watch?! AWESOME! "Any idiot can buy armor." "How do you know?" "Cuz I sold armor!" AH HA HA HA HA HA!! "That was unladylike." I think this is the start of a beautiful friendship. Still figuring out who this Greyjoy guy is, but he sure thinks he's the bee's knees with women, doesn't he? He favors snarky women, too. I like this horse-riding woman - she's sassy! Damn, daddy Greyjoy is a dour and unfun guy. Oh, snap! She's his sister!! I love it!!!! ;D We're positively filling up with kings .... we're practically drowing in kings. Personally? I'd stick with the easy pirating rather than throw in with all this kingdom mess. Oooooh, it was Joffrey that ordered the baby slaughter. "I'm not a king, but I think there's more to ruling than that." He gets all the funny and true lines. Melisandre will give him a son. Wonder how she's gonna guarrantee that. Also? Screwing on the strategy map and knocking over all the piece is a nice bit of metaphor, eh? Jon Snow, Jon Snow, where you sneakin' off to? Oh, finding out what happens to the boy babies! Are they used to pay off the ickies so that this little holding North of the wall isn't gobbled up?
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Post by Lola m on Apr 15, 2012 20:21:11 GMT -5
Yep - sacrificing the boy babies. Jon Snow gets a lesson in harsh reality. I am waiting for the other shoe to drop regarding him and his little buddy - they each are courting trouble. Wolfie dreams for Bran! No more magic or dragons etc.? Yeah, not so much, dude! Brienne of Tarth - now of the King's Guard! Woot! I like her - he kicks ass. Plus we get lots more King posturing. "I'm gonna take King's Landing." "No, I am." "No I am!" I do like Renly's antler crown thing. It's very festive and kicky. We do not sew sow!! Yeah, that's a rallying cry I can get behind. If only they weren't "iron-born", 'cuz I'd add a "we do not iron or do laundry" to it. Tyrion is testing to see who it tattling to who - nice plotting. Which story finds its way where! Yay! Hot man-on-man action, I've been waiting patiently for you to arrive. Noooooo! Don't take it away just when we were just getting to the good stuff! I mean, I do certainly appreciate all the lovely breasts we get on the show, but equal homage should be paid to the dick! "Do you want my brother to come in and help? He wouldn't mind." Dude, take her into your confidence and get things done. She seems a smart woman. Ah, Tyrion knows the way to both hurt Cersei (one of her children) and possibly get her on his side (this might save one of her children from harm) and mostly just make her mad as hell. Salt and stone and steel. But mostly water. Ooooooh!! Tempting Littlefinger with seeing Cate. Ha! Tyrion is planting little spies and plots and stories everywhere. But I worry he'll overreach. "I've decided I don't like riddles." ;D Arya ... how do you sleep with things in your head, horrible things? Maybe by remembering also the pretty things? Well, at least he got that great "I always hated cross-bows ... take too long to load" line off before he was croaked. Plus all the bad-ass fighting and stuff. I'm hoping that Ayra's merciful gesture will pay off for her. **hopes like mad that something helps her** Oooooh, nice misdirect on Gendry!
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Post by Onjel offline on Apr 17, 2012 11:56:38 GMT -5
Hmmmmm. Many differences between the book and the television show. I think the success of the first season was how true to the book it stayed. They are straying quite a bit here and I'm not sure the slowness that has resulted is good for the show. I'll wait and see, but I do know people who are getting frustrated at how slowly the show is progressing. Stuff that was not handled in depth in the book is expanded to being too detailed and it might be derailing the series. Hope not. And, stuff that was detailed in the book is given short-shrift.
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Post by Lola m on Apr 22, 2012 20:55:05 GMT -5
Idiot. Always pay attention when the horses get nervous, dude! Damn! Big wolfie! Big big wolfie! "It doesn't hurt! It'll get better!" ... "I'm not dead yet." [/MontyPythonQuotage] "Do you think he's friends with King Joffrey?" Good point. As is her point about it questioning why you are fighting to unseat a king without a plan for what to do next. "That was a threat. See the difference?" Damn, I just love every second of Tyrion. Luv him! Aaaaaand of course Joffrey wants his hooker-gift tortured. What a terrible terrible little punk he is. Brienne! Yay! Luv her and luv Renley and his snarky-smart wife and his not-naked-enough lover! Dani! Hope this place on the sea won't kill her and her dragons and what not. Scary death place is scary! **is scared for Arya** Oh, Littlefinger! I was hoping Catelyn would stab you. 'Specially after lying about Arya! And he thinks he can sneak around Robb by going to her. Hmmmm. Tyrion sent back Robert's remains? Whoa! I wasn't expecting that. Nicely played, Imp. A smart move and (I suspect) an actually kindly meant one. I'm not sure I understand this whole picking people for torture and death thing? I suppose it's supposed to be random and what not. Like that kinda stuff often is. People asked for info that they actually don't have and tortured until they lie and say anything. Salt and smoke .... "Is he a ham?" AH HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!! And yes, yes he is. A stiff, pokey, friendless, tasteless ham. I do like Renley. The 13 of Qarth. Well, this should be fun. "Turn us a away and we will burn you first." "I am one of the 13 and I am still speaking." HA! I like this guy too. Oooh, this place is pretty! I forgot how practical and relatively straightforward Tywen is. And smart, like most of the Lannisters are. Making Arya as a cup-bearer? Oooooh! Tyrion. You are doing so much manipulating and scheming and so on, I am seriously starting to worry about your continuing good health! I can't help thinking that being bold tend to get you dead. "Cleaner ways don't win wars." That's everyone's motto, it seems. The Red Woman is so very very "black and white" - representing religious fanatics everywhere. Light and shadows and this is all gonna end horribly, isn't it? She's havin' a baby? Eeeeeep!! No, she's having some strange smokey crawly thing!! EEeeeep!!
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Post by Lola m on May 6, 2012 20:39:30 GMT -5
Oh, Theon. You're just a big cranky toddler. Granted, a toddler with a small army... A messy messy toddler, doing what you know is wrong, trying to look more grown up than you really are.
Just words. Keep us warm in the night ... make us feel we have a purpose. Ah, true, true.
Damn, Arya. Serving Tywin right under Baelish's nose. Gutsy! And terrifying.
Oooooh, a Wildling! Coolio! Talking about lots and lots of Free Folk ... And she's schooling Jon Snow on how to kill her. Oh, somehow I think that was a mistake, Jon. And then chasing after her alone? Bigger mistake!!
Riot in King's Landing - better scurry little royals. Damn! Sansa!! Love that Hound bodyguard guy. "Take her back to her cage."
Yeaaaaah, I'm not so sure that the people will rise up for you, Dani. Now, when your dragons are big they might, but now ...? Not so much, I'm thinking.
I sense another name to be given to the kill-people-for-me guy. Yep. Called it!
Oh, John Snow ... are you always this dumb?
"Your horse eats better than his children." Sums things up rather well.
Oh, she's freeing the kids from Theon! Well done! Well done!
Goddamn! Where are her dragons!?! Something tells me that whoever took them is gonna regret it ...
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Post by Onjel on May 8, 2012 10:40:11 GMT -5
Okay. I've caught up. Though I haven't finished the second book in the series, upon which this season is based, I've noticed many differences. I suppose some of them can be chalked up to condensing the story, as it is enormously more complicated than the first book, with many more characters and twists/turns. Still, I'm enjoying this version. For the record, I stopped reading where Jon has his first interaction with the Wilding girl that he's supposed to kill, as I can't stand to see Jon act stupidly, if honorably in his way.
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Post by Lola m on May 13, 2012 20:06:15 GMT -5
Okay. I've caught up. Though I haven't finished the second book in the series, upon which this season is based, I've noticed many differences. I suppose some of them can be chalked up to condensing the story, as it is enormously more complicated than the first book, with many more characters and twists/turns. Still, I'm enjoying this version. For the record, I stopped reading where Jon has his first interaction with the Wilding girl that he's supposed to kill, as I can't stand to see Jon act stupidly, if honorably in his way. I haven't read the books, but I know I've read that GRRM as well as the creators of the TV series intend that it will take some slightly different twists and turns. Which is as it should be, with a different medium and all, I suppose.
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Post by Lola m on May 13, 2012 20:20:46 GMT -5
"I won't hurt them. Well, I'll hurt them. I won't kill them." Theon's such a dick, but that was a funny line. Jon Snow - man of the night's watch. Oh, Jon. And the lads never do it with each other. Never never never. Ah, lovely denial. Interesting conversation between him and the wilding woman. A nicely tangled history this land has. I'll bet Tywin is so sour partly 'cuz of the fugly icky place he lives. Sweep up! Stop torturing people! Put up some cheery curtains, fer pete's sake! Ooooh, and a good conversation between him and Arya - which also gets some good history for him. "Most girls are idiots." HA! And "have you met many stonemasons?" **snerk** I like Arya. Also, she did very nicely with that "proper ... properly" bit. But was it good enough to fool him, or is he on to her? Oooooooh! Sansa's bodyguard guy flat our says he'll stand between her and Joffrey! Coolio! Dani is a bit snippy, but she's got a point. You did let a bunch of her people get killed and her dragons stolen at your place. Falling down on the job, dude! Better to be cruel than weak. Yeah, well you basically are coming off as both, Theon. And you're not the brightest bulb on the tree either. Good insight into Dani's mind - she knows that no people are really her people. "It don't have teeth." Ha! And then, she takes off again. Oh, Jon Snow. You are sooooo screwed now. And not in a good way. Sansa - nooo! Don't let them know you can be bedded yet!! "Joffrey's always been difficult." Understatement of the year. "You may never love the king, but you will love his children." Love no one buy your children. Hmmmm. That's our Cersei. Jaime's got a roommate in his little cage! Awwww! "It was the best day of my life." Damn. That is sad. "It's a good thing I am who I am. I'd have been useless at anything else." He's totally conning this kid, isn't he? Yep. Oh, I love this woman's outfit, with the face shield and so on? So cool! But where are the dragons! Bring on the dragons! At the House of the Undying. In a deal to make a King. Hmmmmm. "The mother of dragons will be with her babies." And let the slaughter begin. Eeeep! Cate saved your ass, Jaime. 'Cuz you did a dumb dumb thing. As TLo have just tweeted - "this is the bad decisions episode". Joffrey won't listen to mommy. Will Cersei listen to Tyrion? Half the Targaryens are mad .... Rather amazing she is being so straightforward with Tyrion. Cate, are you gonna sneak Jamie out of the camp? Or give him up to be killed by the mob? Or kill him herself. I don't think she'll kill him. I think Jaime is hoping to goad her to it, but I don't think she's as easy to crack as all that. Damn! Did Theon kill the two kids?
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Post by Lola m on May 20, 2012 20:45:38 GMT -5
Theon's sister schools him. "Which one gave you the most trouble? The cripple or the six year old?" "We both loved our mother. We both..endured our father." Touching stories of how not to strangle a baby in its crib.. Oy, these iron-islanders. And Wilding woman saved Jon Snow. And the others died 'cuz they were looking for him. Oy! You know nothing, Jon Snow! While what's-her-name is right that the regular folk suffer in wars, Robb is right too that the Lannisters (at least the current weasel-king Joffrey) are worst and no one is safe as long as they are in charge. "You've weakened our position. You've brought discord into our camp." & he puts a guard on mom. Ouch! Not sure he's wrong... And now we get Brienne guarding Jamie Lannister! This is gonna be awesome! Tywin marching on Robb and leaving Arya behind. Yeah, like that's not gonna come back to bite him in the ass. Also? She better get the hell out of there. He's smart to not wear a gold cloak. Stay independent, dude! Also? Gold cloaks are really hated. Interesting. Gather up all the thieves and kill them. Ouch! "We could throw books at his men." "We don't have that many books." "We don't have that many men." **snerk** Cool! More stuff about the "first men"! I find history interesting. Help wasn't promised - just death. Nicely done - Arya. I'll un-name you, if ... Joffrey's gonna fight? Then Joffrey's gonna die, I'm thinking. Heee! Yes, always be worried when Cersei is smiling, Tyrion! Oh, well done, Tyrion. Well played! Now Cersei thinks she's large and in charge thanks to your excellent acting. Yeah, I think Theon's men would be happy to turn on him. Nice plan, Robb and company! Arya is so brave! Your buddy didn't mention the guards for a very good reason - they're not guarding anyone anymore! I like this former crabber guy best of all. He's a good guy. Waaaaay better than Stannis. Joffrey's gonna kill Stannis? Yeaaaaaah. That's not gonna happen. Heee! "Why are all the gods such c**t's? Where are the gods of tits and wine?" I love Tyrion. Go get your dragons, Dani! And we get confirmation that the two kids are OK! Yays!!
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Post by Onjel on May 22, 2012 15:25:13 GMT -5
From what I know about Book Three, I'm dying to see how they handle the next season. And, how they end this one. Book Three is a shocka.
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Post by Lola m on May 27, 2012 20:44:08 GMT -5
Nice scene with the practical and wise old-timer and the stars-in-his-eyes newbie. Don't expect numbers of men and ships to be the decider. And don't assume everyone in King's Landing will be all "gosh we love you" when you attack the city. "Where did you learn the Lannister song?" "Drunk Lannisters!" Ah, everyone is getting ready for disaster in their own way. "You're just like me. Only smaller." Oh, snap! Gosh, just a lot of excellent scenes in this - not much I can comment on in a snarky way, just a lot of good "getting ready for action" scenes. Don't get killed, indeed, Tyrion! Don't get killed! "The King doesn't discuss battle plans with stupid girls." Yeah, stop finding clever ways to encourage Joffrey to get killed, you silly Sansa! **snicker snerk** "That would make me the quarter-man. Just doesn't have the same ring to it." HA! Ah, Tyrion. Even as a quarter-man you'd be three times the man Joffrey is. Um. Which I guess means he's 32nd-man ... Holy crap! He's made the ship one big bomb, hasn't he? No, he's made the whole sea one big bomb!! DAMN! **stunned** And the only one who's smiling is Joffrey. Ah, good old Thousands-will-Die-Stannis. Always the life of every party. Cercei in her cups again ... but is she planning on putting some nightshade in Sansa's cup? Or her own? Fight fight realistic icky fight ... Ah, the one thing that the Hound fears. Fire! "Fuck the King." Woot! Yay Tyrion! "Those are brave men knocking at our door. Let's go kill them!" And yay Sansa - rallying the doomed women and sheltering folk. OMG, the awesome little page guy!! Saving Tyrion! Or did he .... Stags aren't evil. I like this kid. Oh, it's Tywin. Well. That's something.
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Post by Lola m on Jun 3, 2012 20:38:30 GMT -5
Ah, of course. Tywin is back and so Tryion is tossed out like so much used kleenix. Oy! Something tells me Tywin is not gonna put up with any crap from Joffrey. OK, it was incredibly tacky of him, what with the animal taking a shit in the entrance hall, but wasn't it awesome that Tywin never even got off of his horse? Sansa is almost off the hook . . . as long as they don't kill her. Also? Something tells me Margaery is gonna find a way to handle Joffrey. They're all liars here. Including you, Littlefinger. "Every one of us is better than you." "I'm not like most men." "That's what most men say." HA! "I'm afraid of him." "Oh you should be." Woot! Go, Brienne! She is just so badass! I love how she's just so noble and cynical all at the same time. Also? Loyal. The flames are a lie! The war will go on for years ... thousands of men will die ... you'll betray everyone ... Well, she's just a bundle of fun, isn't she? I know I'm surrounded. I stood on the battlements and saw I was surrounded. HA! "You killed all the ravens." Lack of advance planning, always the kicker. What's your advice? Run, dude, run! Just don't run home. We'll all die! Horribly! But we'll show them! And everyone will think we're really really cool! Nice pep talk, too bad it didn't work. Nooooo - don't kill the old guy! Damn those iron island guys!! Damn them! The king won't mention it, the histories won't mention it, but we'll remember you. **gets all mist eyed** Hell yeah! "I am yours, You are mine." **gets more sniffly and misty-eyed** Dani's gone to the spooky house! I love Arya. She so Brave-little-toaster! I love Arya. She so Brave-little-toaster! And Jaqen is just all kinds of mysterioso-coolness. Damn. Bran and his little brother and crew and their plight are killin' me! But at least they still have some dire wolves! So, the House of the Undying is like the TARDIS, then? Bigger on the inside? Khal Drogo!! The life and the baby that might have been! "Wise men with skinny arms." I love Vision!Khal Drogo. The dragon babies! They want to keep her always, so that the dragons are strong and so that the wizards can steal power from them. Something tells me this won't do the way they want. HA! Yeah. Sooooo not the way they wanted. Jon Snow and the snowy free folk - fight! Fight! (It's like a schoolyard brawl, but with swords.) OMG, you killed your fellow wall guy? Whoa! Another King? Beyond the wall. Nothing. Now you're your own treasure, Xaro Xhoan Daxos. Take all the gold and jewels! OMG!! Magic snowstorm zombie monsters!!
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