1.14: T.A.H.I.T.I.

[Queen E]

Discuss!

[beccaelizabeth]

Hmmm.

So... this episode seems to be a demonstration of 'personal is not the same as important'.
Before, SHIELD has the capacity to raise the dead, derived from biotech materials and expertise going back a lot of years; and Skye, a SHIELD agent who signed up with her eyes open, is going to die.
After, SHIELD has lost resources that are probably irreplaceable, and one girl lives.
Coulson et al screwed up really, really badly.

... but I'm not sure the writers know that.

Also, I'm not sure why Coulson couldn't get hold of Fury, or why Fury has been playing it so secretive, or why his agents even have to do a run around to get to the best medical tech. But that's probably meant to be part of the season long arc? But mostly I feel it's making SHIELD look stupid.

But the more the Clairvoyant shows they have access to everything except level 10 eyes only, the more SHIELD should be suspecting level 9 or 8 of having been infiltrated, that being Coulson and his peers. So hiding things from that level makes more and more sense. Except Coulson et al don't seem to have thought of that, and they've had more training that should be pointing that out. So the team are looking stupid.

And SHIELD agents look epic stupid when they bring the bad guy to the facility he's hunting.
Even without knowing that the Clairvoyant has access to implantable technology that can see through walls and show exactly what the people on the plane do, some much more commonly available tech can just tell someone where that guy is being taken.

So the personal stuff was very one for all and all for one, but they did it stupid, they did it messy, and they probably shouldn't have done it at all.

Coulson continues to have very bad days. I liked that the door says TAHITI, but want to know what it stands for. The reveal reminded me of Lindsey finding out where his hand came from. Like, if there's a dead guy in a tube being milked, there's a finite resource, but if there's a live one, then it's more creepy horror time and they'll probably last longer.

But the tube was labelled GH. Like, just that one tube. They couldn't find the GH in the supply cabinets because there's a lot of other alphabet in there. GH does not in fact stand for Guest House, it stands for that one guest.
That means them finding the place was entirely a coincidence. It was a stretch in the first place, and seemed like very little to hang the decision to kill two guys just doing their duty on, but if it is a coincidence then that's just stupid writing.

So they're doing a thing about biotech, medical ethics, treating people without consent and against their express wishes, and now they're adding the source being really creepy and ethically dubious too. That's a lot of issues to pile on. Also keeps making the gap between SHIELD and the likes of Centipede seem ever smaller. Could be good.



but then the episode ends with that bit about Lorelai that's presumably setting up next week, which doesn't exactly bode well for following through on the deeper plot threads.



Good points of the episode: 'we're her family', team as family, caring about each other to the point they risk their jobs and the world.
bad things that happen in the episode: caring about each other to the point they risk their jobs and the world. little things like who an agent is shagging, there's only rules about that to try and prevent screw ups on this scale.
and the writing could have been tighter.


I like the characters this week. I will watch these people again.

[Lola m]

Ok, so work has been hellacious busy and I fell behind. But I have now binge-watched a lot of different shows (SHIELD included) and I jotted down my thoughts at I watched each ep.

I’m always glad when someone cuts thru recriminations with truth – person to blame in a shooting? The person who did the shooting! And then she just goes to town kicking his ass. Damn, girl!

Ah, and that’s why it’s titled like it is. But is it just an apt call back, or more?

I love Coulson’s determined grin.

The clairvoyant sees all, knows all, except …. Coulson. And shooting Skye so that they head off to where Coulson was brought back to life was the plan. Well that’s not good!

They’re all so … set on their action. May is always the one with that look on her face – that same look that Zoe gets when she knows that Mal is both right and wrong and it’s all gonna go so very badly.

“What do you think, Fitz? Can you get us inside?”
“To certain, horrible death? Absolutely.”
;-) I like when the soldiery guys think they know what the scientisty guys are thinking and usually it’s not right.

So why is this facility all deserted and with the armed guards and explosives and what not?

Yep. Not just a call back. T.A.H.I.T.I. is something. And I’m betting it’s something scary!

Also? Just injecting someone with an unknown substance doesn’t seem like a smart thing to do. But then, if they’re already dead ….
Interesting. It is true that Coulson never did say what he would do if she died.

Oh, eep! Is the drug being, like, made from that guy/being in the tube? Or is it keeping it alive? Or …?

[Lola m]

Apr 6, 2014 3:06:06 GMT -5 beccaelizabeth said:

Hmmm.

So... this episode seems to be a demonstration of 'personal is not the same as important'.
Before, SHIELD has the capacity to raise the dead, derived from biotech materials and expertise going back a lot of years; and Skye, a SHIELD agent who signed up with her eyes open, is going to die.
After, SHIELD has lost resources that are probably irreplaceable, and one girl lives.
Coulson et al screwed up really, really badly.

... but I'm not sure the writers know that.

Now that I've seen more eps, I'm thinking the writers sort of agree with you and sort of don't.

Also, I'm not sure why Coulson couldn't get hold of Fury, or why Fury has been playing it so secretive, or why his agents even have to do a run around to get to the best medical tech. But that's probably meant to be part of the season long arc? But mostly I feel it's making SHIELD look stupid.

But the more the Clairvoyant shows they have access to everything except level 10 eyes only, the more SHIELD should be suspecting level 9 or 8 of having been infiltrated, that being Coulson and his peers. So hiding things from that level makes more and more sense. Except Coulson et al don't seem to have thought of that, and they've had more training that should be pointing that out. So the team are looking stupid.

Took some of them a bit longer than you to be suspicious. But, also looks like some of SHIELD was suspicious.

And SHIELD agents look epic stupid when they bring the bad guy to the facility he's hunting.
Even without knowing that the Clairvoyant has access to implantable technology that can see through walls and show exactly what the people on the plane do, some much more commonly available tech can just tell someone where that guy is being taken.

So the personal stuff was very one for all and all for one, but they did it stupid, they did it messy, and they probably shouldn't have done it at all.

Coulson continues to have very bad days. I liked that the door says TAHITI, but want to know what it stands for. The reveal reminded me of Lindsey finding out where his hand came from. Like, if there's a dead guy in a tube being milked, there's a finite resource, but if there's a live one, then it's more creepy horror time and they'll probably last longer.

But the tube was labelled GH. Like, just that one tube. They couldn't find the GH in the supply cabinets because there's a lot of other alphabet in there. GH does not in fact stand for Guest House, it stands for that one guest.

Nicely put!

That means them finding the place was entirely a coincidence. It was a stretch in the first place, and seemed like very little to hang the decision to kill two guys just doing their duty on, but if it is a coincidence then that's just stupid writing.

So they're doing a thing about biotech, medical ethics, treating people without consent and against their express wishes, and now they're adding the source being really creepy and ethically dubious too. That's a lot of issues to pile on. Also keeps making the gap between SHIELD and the likes of Centipede seem ever smaller. Could be good.



but then the episode ends with that bit about Lorelai that's presumably setting up next week, which doesn't exactly bode well for following through on the deeper plot threads.



Good points of the episode: 'we're her family', team as family, caring about each other to the point they risk their jobs and the world.
bad things that happen in the episode: caring about each other to the point they risk their jobs and the world. little things like who an agent is shagging, there's only rules about that to try and prevent screw ups on this scale.
and the writing could have been tighter.


I like the characters this week. I will watch these people again.