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Post by beccaelizabeth on Dec 7, 2006 20:06:38 GMT -5
I make a new spoiler thread. I looked but didn't see one yet. Scans daily has pages of Buffy season 8 comic preview. It's, um, interesting. And has a line I'm dying to mention here. So I make a spoiler thread. Buffy is thinking "There's even three of me. One is in Rome partying very publicly - and supposedly dating some guy called The Immortal. That part was Andrew's idea. He did research on the guy, said it would be hilarious for some reason." And: Andrew was lying? Making it up? Telling great big stories? ... You know, that do in fact make a certain amount of sense. And doing it because it would be hilarious? ... Suddenly I like him more. Although he's also a jerk. ... I don't know, I can see him telling Angel that, but Spike? And there's the vampire sense of smell thing. Surely they'd notice if Buffy hadn't ever lived there? Though of course a decoy meant to deceive the kind of things that would hunt Slayers would have to deceive vampires. And... I'm left to wonder why. I mean, why write it one way on TV and then retcon it in comics? Seems weird. As retcon, plausible. As an interpretation of the original canon, no way in hell. And Andrew would have to be so much the better liar than I'd have believed. I mean, he was never very good at it before. And it makes Spike and Angel look even stupider.
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Post by Michelle on Dec 7, 2006 20:25:57 GMT -5
I make a new spoiler thread. I looked but didn't see one yet. Scans daily has pages of Buffy season 8 comic preview. It's, um, interesting. And has a line I'm dying to mention here. So I make a spoiler thread. Buffy is thinking "There's even three of me. One is in Rome partying very publicly - and supposedly dating some guy called The Immortal. That part was Andrew's idea. He did research on the guy, said it would be hilarious for some reason." And: Andrew was lying? Making it up? Telling great big stories? ... You know, that do in fact make a certain amount of sense. And doing it because it would be hilarious? ... Suddenly I like him more. Although he's also a jerk. ... I don't know, I can see him telling Angel that, but Spike? And there's the vampire sense of smell thing. Surely they'd notice if Buffy hadn't ever lived there? Though of course a decoy meant to deceive the kind of things that would hunt Slayers would have to deceive vampires. And... I'm left to wonder why. I mean, why write it one way on TV and then retcon it in comics? Seems weird. As retcon, plausible. As an interpretation of the original canon, no way in hell. And Andrew would have to be so much the better liar than I'd have believed. I mean, he was never very good at it before. And it makes Spike and Angel look even stupider. Someone on LJ is speculating that even the released scans of the comic smell of an Andrew fantasy a la "Storyteller." Buffy and Other Slayers in Initiative-type outfits, holding guns and jumping out of helicopters? Seems like something that Andrew would dream up! And regarding the decoy Buffy in Rome, I think the whole point of TGIQ was to make Spike and Angel seem stupid. The "Girl' in the title could be swapped for the word "Object." It wasn't about Buffy, it was about their long ongoing rivalry. I know some people love that episode, and it does have its funny moments, but it will never be one of my favorites.
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Post by Matthew on Dec 7, 2006 20:36:12 GMT -5
I make a new spoiler thread. I looked but didn't see one yet. Scans daily has pages of Buffy season 8 comic preview. It's, um, interesting. And has a line I'm dying to mention here. So I make a spoiler thread. Buffy is thinking "There's even three of me. One is in Rome partying very publicly - and supposedly dating some guy called The Immortal. That part was Andrew's idea. He did research on the guy, said it would be hilarious for some reason." And: Andrew was lying? Making it up? Telling great big stories? ... You know, that do in fact make a certain amount of sense. And doing it because it would be hilarious? ... Suddenly I like him more. Although he's also a jerk. ... I don't know, I can see him telling Angel that, but Spike? And there's the vampire sense of smell thing. Surely they'd notice if Buffy hadn't ever lived there? Though of course a decoy meant to deceive the kind of things that would hunt Slayers would have to deceive vampires. And... I'm left to wonder why. I mean, why write it one way on TV and then retcon it in comics? Seems weird. As retcon, plausible. As an interpretation of the original canon, no way in hell. And Andrew would have to be so much the better liar than I'd have believed. I mean, he was never very good at it before. And it makes Spike and Angel look even stupider. Someone on LJ is speculating that even the released scans of the comic smell of an Andrew fantasy a la "Storyteller." Buffy and Other Slayers in Initiative-type outfits, holding guns and jumping out of helicopters? Seems like something that Andrew would dream up! And regarding the decoy Buffy in Rome, I think the whole point of TGIQ was to make Spike and Angel seem stupid. The "Girl' in the title could be swapped for the word "Object." It wasn't about Buffy, it was about their long ongoing rivalry. I know some people love that episode, and it does have its funny moments, but it will never be one of my favorites. *cusses and grumbles, because the opener being an Andrew Wells Production is a very likely possibillity.* Durnit. Because I LIKE this interp, and I like Noir Badass "Ma'am" Buffy.
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Post by Anne, Old S'cubie Cat on Dec 7, 2006 22:23:00 GMT -5
Someone on LJ is speculating that even the released scans of the comic smell of an Andrew fantasy a la "Storyteller." Buffy and Other Slayers in Initiative-type outfits, holding guns and jumping out of helicopters? Seems like something that Andrew would dream up! And regarding the decoy Buffy in Rome, I think the whole point of TGIQ was to make Spike and Angel seem stupid. The "Girl' in the title could be swapped for the word "Object." It wasn't about Buffy, it was about their long ongoing rivalry. I know some people love that episode, and it does have its funny moments, but it will never be one of my favorites. *cusses and grumbles, because the opener being an Andrew Wells Production is a very likely possibillity.* Durnit. Because I LIKE this interp, and I like Noir Badass "Ma'am" Buffy. Or it could be the real thing, so to speak, with Andrew-embellishments.
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Post by KMInfinity on Dec 9, 2006 0:44:27 GMT -5
There's a TV GUide interview with Joss Whedon this week, if anyone's missed it. Maybe it was discussed in a Part I missed, except that since the comic content seems to be considered spoilery, maybe not. The idea of a "fake" Buffy dating the immortal and fooling Spike and Angel may not be an Andrew fantasy, but a method of keeping Spike and Angel out of the story. tinyurl.com/vtv6nKinda deflates my anticipation, knowing JW doesn't have (or has voluntarily given up) control of Spike and Angel to another comic book company.
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Dec 11, 2006 12:44:59 GMT -5
Thoughts, because all the discussion on lj has inspired me.
I don't see things as retcons, to me their more like revelations. I prefer to look at Buffy as a television novel. Well, now, part of it's a graphic novel, I guess. Novels have plenty of later revelations feeding back and changing the perception of events in the beginning of the novel.
I'm taking the comics as canon because Joss says so. Its his body of work, not mine. I'm not keen on cherry picking because it bugs me.
The one thing I'm hoping the comics will do is to help me (us) understand season 7 a bit better, because later seasons have clarified and added depth to the earlier ones. I'm hoping that these comics will serve as the coda that I felt Chosen was sorely lacking.
The other thing I like about the idea of the comics is that it will be easy for the story to truly go global, which I'm looking forward to.
About the recently released panels themselves, I'm loathe to be too critical of them, because all we have a few panels. Hard to say what exactly is going on here.
One criticism I've heard is that the clothes we see in the panel are something that we would never see Buffy wear. I, who really doesn't like Buffy, like the clothes; they actually make me like Buffy a wee bit more. This makes me think of a conversation shipperx was having on her lj once about how much Buffy would have to change to be likeable to her and me, and whether Buffy was still Buffy with these changes.
Like I said, I like the clothes. I have no idea why they are jumping out of a helicopter, but it looks cool. People have speculated connections with the Initiative or The Watcher's Council, and if that's the case, I approve, provided that Slayers are making use of those organizations, not the other way around. I've often said that Buffy didn't give either group enough credit (granted, they never gave her much reason to), so if that's either growth on Buffy's part or a sign or other Slayer's asserting their opinions, then yay.
The Buffy/Immortal issue and whether Andrew is a lying weasel. Changes my interpretation of Buffy in The Girl In Question, but I have no problem with either Buffy dating the Immortal and really enjoying sex for the first time, which makes me so happy for her, or Buffy still totally dedicated to the mission, which I think would have happened in the first scenario anyway, and throwing Angel and everyone off her trail. I wonder if those two chicks Andrew walked out with in the end were the Buffy-decoys.
1800+ Slayers. Good to know.
The thing that does bother me, and which I haven't seen addressed is that Buffy has two other Slayers (?) who act as decoys for her. Why? Why is she being protected like that? I thought after Buffy empowered all the Slayers, she would become One of Many instead of the One and Only. Also, I've always had an issue with the protectors needing to be protected, whether its Giles and Angel etc "protecting" Buffy or Buffy "protecting" the Potentials-cum-Slayers.
In that same vein, I don't like the other Slayers calling her ma'am either.
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Post by Karen on Jan 2, 2007 19:55:02 GMT -5
I always thought Andrew was lying, or at least stretching the truth about Buffy - way back in "Damage". I see KMInfinity has posted a link to a nice interview from Joss re: Buffy, Season 8, from Article has link to TV Guide article He says he's a big BSG fan! Like in his most fav show ever. Here's the interview reposted. Thursday, December 7, 2006 Buffy the Vampire Slayer Is Back: The Complete Joss Whedon Q&A by Ileane Rudolph Buffy the Vampire Slayer TM & (c) 20th Century Fox Film Corp. Dark Horse Comics is a registered trademark of Dark Horse Comics. All rights reserved.Buffy: Season 8 Buffy the Vampire Slayer fan alert — the Scooby Gang lives! If you've been waiting since 2003 for the answer to little sister Dawn's series-ending question ("What are we gonna do now?"), it's finally on its way. Creator Joss Whedon is preparing Buffy: Season 8, but this time around the adventures are in comic-book form, arriving in March 2007 from Dark Horse Comics. We talked to Whedon about Buffy, today's TV and his many other projects.
TVGuide.com: Why did you decide to do an entire eighth season of Buffy the Vampire Slayer in a comic-book series? Joss Whedon: Well, I'm not that bright. I keep thinking that I have all this free time that I don't have. It started going in my brain — "Wouldn't it be fun if... " and, "You could... " while the other voice was saying, "It's death. I'm out of control. I'm already writing." So I basically said, "We could do something and for once we could make it canon. We could make it officially what happened after the end of the show." Let Buffy not only address certain themes that slipped between the cracks of the show, but also really be a comic book. Take the template of the show, but not so religiously that they're all standing in the Magic Box, talking, for 10 pages.
TVGuide.com: Did you have a concept for the eighth season already mapped out in your head after the sort of sudden cancellation of the series? Or did it come about after the nixing of the much talked-about spin-off movies? Whedon: The show was not canceled suddenly — I knew that the show would not go past seven years, that I could not go past seven years. I had originally intended to go only five, but once it was clear that we were going to do more than five, both Sarah [Michelle Gellar] and I, and all the other actors, knew that seven was it. But the idea of doing movies about some of the ancillary characters got me really excited, because I love those actors and I love that world. That kind of fell through, but when I started working on the comic... I sketched out this sort of broad arc that would connect everything. Now it will probably only appear on the comic-book pages, but it will be really well drawn. George Jeanty (The American Way) is the artist.
TVGuide.com: How many issues will there be? And how many are you writing? Whedon: The season should run between 20 and 30 issues, I'm guessing. It has, like the [TV] seasons did, an overriding story with an ending point. I'll be writing the beginning, the first four, the last four, and I'll definitely be doing some others. I have a bunch of other writers — comic-book heavies and former writers from the show — who are going to write the other issues. I'll be overseeing the whole thing, and they've all got my giant mission statement about what the giant arc is about.
TVGuide.com: What is the giant arc about? Whedon: I'm not going to tell you that. But I can tell you that it's about the ramifications of everything that happened in Season 7. At the end of the show, Buffy made every girl who might be a potential vampire slayer into a fully realized slayer with all the remembered history and powers, so she's made a big change in the way the world works. The comic will be dealing with that when we pick up the story several months later.
TVGuide.com: So there's an army of slayers... going up against whom? Who or what are the main bad guys? Whedon: There are, not surprisingly, monsters, because that's what they generally fight, but what we found out early on in the show is that the scariest thing in the world is other people. But at the same time, it is a comic book and it has to step up in terms of kind of being epic.
TVGuide.com: What's the main thing you can do with a comic that you couldn't do on a network TV show? Whedon: Well, the thing we couldn't do on my network TV show — you can do a lot on a show these days, if you have money — is really go anywhere, and let the visuals complement the storytelling in a very specific way. [In comic books] you have the whole world, the whole universe, at your disposal. We really didn't have a lot of money to make Buffy.
TVGuide.com: You couldn't tell. Whedon: Well, bless you. We worked really hard to make it look like we did. But there were a few times when she'd walk into a cave, and it'd have a perfectly flat concrete floor. I'd just go, "Oh, if only this were a comic book." [Laughs] You still want to have people identify with the characters, but with a comic, you have a mandate that you have to do it a little bit bigger. Buffy's just living on a bigger scale. She's not the everyman that she was, but she's still cute and quippy.
TVGuide.com: Does she get comic-book superheroine breast implants? Whedon: She really doesn't. I've been fortunate that I've never worked with a T&A artist. I'm very specific about that.
TVGuide.com: Isn't that the raison d'etre of lots of comics? Whedon: That's part of why I stopped reading comics for a while. All the people I work with draw actual women.
TVGuide.com: Are most of the TV characters featured in the comic? Whedon: I bring them in slowly. The first one features Buffy and a couple of other characters. In the first four, we basically get the layout of where most of them are. I'm bringing them as a fugue, one by one, to play their part. I'm also leaving some people out deliberately, or mentioning them without focusing on them, so that the other writers who come in can have something new to play with. Instead of just picking up my story, they get to pick up whatever aspect of it interests them.
TVGuide.com: Is Anya still dead? Whedon: Anya, still dead. That doesn't mean she won't show up, and it doesn't mean she will. Dead in the Buffyverse is a very singular concept.
TVGuide.com: And Spike? Everyone wants Spike. Whedon: I do have plans for Spike, but the Angel franchise to which Spike defected is in fact owned by another comic-book company, so all that has to be worked out.... And is indeed being worked out.
TVGuide.com: Does that mean there will or won't be Angel crossovers? Whedon: There will be a certain amount. The Angel characters were in the Buffyverse and could appear. I'm not going to feature them heavily because that other company is working on them, and I just don't want to be a schmo to them.
TVGuide.com: Isn't that a little weird? Whedon: It's a little weird. It's not an ideal situation, but I would not heavily use those characters. There's a reason you have Angel do his own show, because you can only play out the variations of "What if Romeo and Juliet lived?" for so long. He's in her heart, but he will be used sparingly.
TVGuide.com: Will you introduce new characters? Whedon: Oh, there'll be a bunch. There'll be some old faces, 'cause that's always fun, and we'll have a whole bunch of these slayers. And there will be new villains. New faces are easier for the artists to draw.
TVGuide.com: How frequently will the issues arrive, because some comics aren't very punctual in their delivery, let's say. Whedon: I'm trying very hard to keep to a monthly schedule. I've got a lot of different writers who are going to be coming in and I don't know how many artists and writers we'll be using, and that will determine it. But the idea is to keep it monthly and not to do what's being done so often — and has been done by my very own self.
TVGuide.com: With your much-delayed comic, Fray? Whedon: There was an issue of Fray that was about a year late. I'm never going to live that one down.
TVGuide.com: This Buffy series could run for more than two years, couldn't it? Whedon: Yes, I figure it [can] be between 25 and 30 issues for this season, as it were. And that could run for a couple of years.
TVGuide.com: What's happening with Astonishing X-Men? Whedon: I have one more run of Astonishing X-Men, about 10 more issues. I'm already writing it because Marvel keeps changing the schedule. I don't know when it's coming out, but I keep writing them and Johnny keeps drawing them, so it should be coming out regularly even if it's bimonthly, which I hope it's not. I hope we get to go a little faster than that.
TVGuide.com: You've talked a little about the X-Men content to reporters. Why not Buffy? Whedon: Well, the thing is, X-Men is continuing right where everybody knows we are, whereas Buffy, we sort of closed it down, and are now picking it up several months later, so it's been a while since anyone saw her. We want to get that feeling of reintroducing ourselves. "Where is everybody? How do they feel? What are they doing? What the hell happened to Dawn?"
TVGuide.com: Isn't it "Buffy and her gang saving the world"? Whedon: Generally speaking, we hope they save it instead of doing the other thing. Because otherwise, we're fired.
TVGuide.com: What's happening with the eagerly anticipated Wonder Woman movie? Whedon: Rewriting, nothing else. Writing, writing, writing.
TVGuide.com: No time period to start casting yet? Whedon: There is not.
TVGuide.com: Any other TV plans? Or did the shabby treatment of Firefly do it for you? Whedon: Firefly wounded me really badly, but I love, love, love TV. It's just a question of freeing up time. I have a few commitments, Wonder Woman being the biggest. I can't let any of them slide, so I've got to get through the things I already agreed to do before I can start agreeing to do other things. But I miss TV. I'm not going to lie: I love it.
TVGuide.com: Is the idea of sequels to Serenity completely dead? Whedon: Nobody's asked me for anything more. They all know that I'm there, and that it's not something I would ever turn my back on. But they do have to ask. I don't have all that money.
TVGuide.com: Have you seen the Battlestar Galactica comic? Whedon: No, I don't think I can do it. I love Battlestar too hard. I couldn't look at any ancillary work.
TVGuide.com: I love Buffy "hard," so are you saying we fans shouldn't read the comic? Whedon: No, because if they stopped doing Battlestar Galactica, and then two or three years later Ron Moore and David Eick said, "We ourselves are going to continue the story in comic-book form — as opposed to something ancillary to the show done by other people," then I would be all over it. People used to say, "Will you make a Buffy movie like The X-Files did?" I was like never, because while the show is going on, the show is my only priority. That's not to say the Battlestar comic isn't great, but I love that show the way other people love Buffy. I love it unreasonably. [Laughs] It feels wrong.
TVGuide.com: Is Battlestar your favorite current TV show? Whedon: Yes, that is my favorite show. Maybe ever.
TVGuide.com: That's saying something. Do David and Ron know that? Whedon: I think I drooled on Ron at a dinner party once. I don't think he was thrilled.
TVGuide.com: What is your favorite comic right now? Whedon: There are a lot of comics I like a lot. I'm a huge fan of Planetary. I love the Luna Brothers' Girls. It's like watching a movie. I haven't read a comic like that since I can remember. It's really intense. I love Next Wave, The Ultimates. I'm pretty straightforward. Mostly it's guys in suits.
TVGuide.com: Did you know that there's a new Sci Fi channel series based on the Painkiller Jane comic? Whedon: Oh, I'm not surprised she showed up.
TVGuide.com: Any last word on the Buffy comic? Whedon: I should probably say that it's the awesomest thing ever. I'm having so much fun.
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Post by Karen on Jan 2, 2007 19:59:54 GMT -5
Thoughts, because all the discussion on lj has inspired me. I don't see things as retcons, to me their more like revelations. I prefer to look at Buffy as a television novel. Well, now, part of it's a graphic novel, I guess. Novels have plenty of later revelations feeding back and changing the perception of events in the beginning of the novel. I'm taking the comics as canon because Joss says so. Its his body of work, not mine. I'm not keen on cherry picking because it bugs me. The one thing I'm hoping the comics will do is to help me (us) understand season 7 a bit better, because later seasons have clarified and added depth to the earlier ones. I'm hoping that these comics will serve as the coda that I felt Chosen was sorely lacking. The other thing I like about the idea of the comics is that it will be easy for the story to truly go global, which I'm looking forward to. About the recently released panels themselves, I'm loathe to be too critical of them, because all we have a few panels. Hard to say what exactly is going on here. One criticism I've heard is that the clothes we see in the panel are something that we would never see Buffy wear. I, who really doesn't like Buffy, like the clothes; they actually make me like Buffy a wee bit more. This makes me think of a conversation shipperx was having on her lj once about how much Buffy would have to change to be likeable to her and me, and whether Buffy was still Buffy with these changes. Like I said, I like the clothes. I have no idea why they are jumping out of a helicopter, but it looks cool. People have speculated connections with the Initiative or The Watcher's Council, and if that's the case, I approve, provided that Slayers are making use of those organizations, not the other way around. I've often said that Buffy didn't give either group enough credit (granted, they never gave her much reason to), so if that's either growth on Buffy's part or a sign or other Slayer's asserting their opinions, then yay. The Buffy/Immortal issue and whether Andrew is a lying weasel. Changes my interpretation of Buffy in The Girl In Question, but I have no problem with either Buffy dating the Immortal and really enjoying sex for the first time, which makes me so happy for her, or Buffy still totally dedicated to the mission, which I think would have happened in the first scenario anyway, and throwing Angel and everyone off her trail. I wonder if those two chicks Andrew walked out with in the end were the Buffy-decoys. 1800+ Slayers. Good to know. The thing that does bother me, and which I haven't seen addressed is that Buffy has two other Slayers (?) who act as decoys for her. Why? Why is she being protected like that? I thought after Buffy empowered all the Slayers, she would become One of Many instead of the One and Only. Also, I've always had an issue with the protectors needing to be protected, whether its Giles and Angel etc "protecting" Buffy or Buffy "protecting" the Potentials-cum-Slayers. In that same vein, I don't like the other Slayers calling her ma'am either.I have a feeling she doesn't like it very much either. I'm anxious for the new story. One thing about the magiks that Willow used to animate the potentials - they most likely will have a negative fallout.
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Post by Anne on the way by on Jan 3, 2007 20:41:00 GMT -5
Thoughts, because all the discussion on lj has inspired me. I don't see things as retcons, to me their more like revelations. I prefer to look at Buffy as a television novel. Well, now, part of it's a graphic novel, I guess. Novels have plenty of later revelations feeding back and changing the perception of events in the beginning of the novel. I'm taking the comics as canon because Joss says so. Its his body of work, not mine. I'm not keen on cherry picking because it bugs me. The one thing I'm hoping the comics will do is to help me (us) understand season 7 a bit better, because later seasons have clarified and added depth to the earlier ones. I'm hoping that these comics will serve as the coda that I felt Chosen was sorely lacking. The other thing I like about the idea of the comics is that it will be easy for the story to truly go global, which I'm looking forward to. About the recently released panels themselves, I'm loathe to be too critical of them, because all we have a few panels. Hard to say what exactly is going on here. One criticism I've heard is that the clothes we see in the panel are something that we would never see Buffy wear. I, who really doesn't like Buffy, like the clothes; they actually make me like Buffy a wee bit more. This makes me think of a conversation shipperx was having on her lj once about how much Buffy would have to change to be likeable to her and me, and whether Buffy was still Buffy with these changes. Like I said, I like the clothes. I have no idea why they are jumping out of a helicopter, but it looks cool. People have speculated connections with the Initiative or The Watcher's Council, and if that's the case, I approve, provided that Slayers are making use of those organizations, not the other way around. I've often said that Buffy didn't give either group enough credit (granted, they never gave her much reason to), so if that's either growth on Buffy's part or a sign or other Slayer's asserting their opinions, then yay. The Buffy/Immortal issue and whether Andrew is a lying weasel. Changes my interpretation of Buffy in The Girl In Question, but I have no problem with either Buffy dating the Immortal and really enjoying sex for the first time, which makes me so happy for her, or Buffy still totally dedicated to the mission, which I think would have happened in the first scenario anyway, and throwing Angel and everyone off her trail. I wonder if those two chicks Andrew walked out with in the end were the Buffy-decoys. 1800+ Slayers. Good to know. The thing that does bother me, and which I haven't seen addressed is that Buffy has two other Slayers (?) who act as decoys for her. Why? Why is she being protected like that? I thought after Buffy empowered all the Slayers, she would become One of Many instead of the One and Only. Also, I've always had an issue with the protectors needing to be protected, whether its Giles and Angel etc "protecting" Buffy or Buffy "protecting" the Potentials-cum-Slayers. In that same vein, I don't like the other Slayers calling her ma'am either.I have a feeling she doesn't like it very much either. I'm anxious for the new story. One thing about the magiks that Willow used to animate the potentials - they most likely will have a negative fallout. Or, as Spike once said, "That's the thing about magic. There's always consequences. Always!"
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Post by Karen on Jan 4, 2007 18:51:36 GMT -5
I have a feeling she doesn't like it very much either. I'm anxious for the new story. One thing about the magiks that Willow used to animate the potentials - they most likely will have a negative fallout. Or, as Spike once said, "That's the thing about magic. There's always consequences. Always!" Exactly! WILLOW: Think of it like, the world doesn't like you getting something for free, and we asked for this huge gift. Buffy. A-and so the world said, 'fine, but if you have that, you have to take this too.' And it made the demon.
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Post by Karen on Jan 6, 2007 16:15:48 GMT -5
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Jan 7, 2007 19:40:06 GMT -5
Joss speaks about Buffy not really dating the immortal (a comment in the thread that Karen posted above). I just finished the last pages of this arc and here you are reading the first. Circle-y. I am serene and at one with the universe. And yet there's this term... 'wanked around'... Hmm. I love "The Girl in Question". I thought it was hilarious and relevent and everyone involved was at the top of their game. When I started writing the comic I had Buffy with the Immortal but it felt wrong. It was important for Angel and Spike to know she had moved on, but it was equally important for Buffy to be where she is in this comic book. And I realized Andrew WOULD have thought this up, and would have thought it was hilarious (plus the wink at the fact that everyone knew that was a double in the ep was fun). As for his input -- he was running the L.A. slayer unit in season 5 of Angel, so it's safe to assume he's got some cred. You could call this wank, but you could say the same about any retcon -- like Spike loving Buffy from the start and not realizing it, which worked for me just great, especially 'cause it had the chaos demon standing around with his antlers dripping (good times, good times). Anyway, it's idiotic for me to defend the work -- you either dig or you don't. But the part that keeps stopping me is this: why on Earth WOULDN'T George Lucas discount the Star Wars Holiday Special? "But... how do you kill a thing... that has no life?" Ranty, -j. joss | January 06, 23:38 CET
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Post by Karen on Jan 7, 2007 22:00:24 GMT -5
Joss speaks about Buffy not really dating the immortal (a comment in the thread that Karen posted above). I just finished the last pages of this arc and here you are reading the first. Circle-y. I am serene and at one with the universe. And yet there's this term... 'wanked around'... Hmm. I love "The Girl in Question". I thought it was hilarious and relevent and everyone involved was at the top of their game. When I started writing the comic I had Buffy with the Immortal but it felt wrong. It was important for Angel and Spike to know she had moved on, but it was equally important for Buffy to be where she is in this comic book. And I realized Andrew WOULD have thought this up, and would have thought it was hilarious (plus the wink at the fact that everyone knew that was a double in the ep was fun). As for his input -- he was running the L.A. slayer unit in season 5 of Angel, so it's safe to assume he's got some cred. You could call this wank, but you could say the same about any retcon -- like Spike loving Buffy from the start and not realizing it, which worked for me just great, especially 'cause it had the chaos demon standing around with his antlers dripping (good times, good times). Anyway, it's idiotic for me to defend the work -- you either dig or you don't. But the part that keeps stopping me is this: why on Earth WOULDN'T George Lucas discount the Star Wars Holiday Special? "But... how do you kill a thing... that has no life?" Ranty, -j. joss | January 06, 23:38 CET Oh, I just read that! Funny, I was dreaming about Joss and the Whedonesque board soon after he posted this. LOL! Poor Joss. His comic hasn't even hit the stands and he's already getting fan criticism. I'm getting all bouncy for new Joss story, myself!
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Post by Karen on Jan 9, 2007 10:39:43 GMT -5
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Post by KMInfinity on Jan 9, 2007 17:17:53 GMT -5
That is one hot Xander! I had every intention of waiting for the trade PB version of either the entire "season" or the bound chapters or whatever, but I'm thinking I'll have to have each comic.
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