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Post by Jan on Jan 23, 2007 6:45:52 GMT -5
I think Linderman's the one pulling HRG's strings... Yeah. It really can't be a coincidence that he's connected to all the Heroes. It does make one wonder, though, a few things...like, if he knew that Hiro would need that sword...well, how did he know that? Yeah, and bad-daddy doesn't have the kind of money for the setup under the paper factory (or wholesale warehouse, or whatever it is). So I'm with Sara on the idea that he works for Linderman.
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Post by Anne, Old S'cubie Cat on Jan 23, 2007 8:33:38 GMT -5
I was good, I didn't look here last night. So, there is one thing that occurred to me while I was watching Claire talk to the Haitian - Claire's Dawn. Claire is Key Girl (which she is; "Save the cheerleader, save the world"). Claire says things like (paraphrasing, because, half-asleep), I don't know who I am, my life is a lie. Everybody else probably figured this out weeks ago. Sorry, I'm slow. Anne, and now we know where Hiro enountered dinosaurs (the sword is a fake!)
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Post by Karen on Jan 23, 2007 9:16:31 GMT -5
I was good, I didn't look here last night. So, there is one thing that occurred to me while I was watching Claire talk to the Haitian - Claire's Dawn. Claire is Key Girl (which she is; "Save the cheerleader, save the world"). Claire says things like (paraphrasing, because, half-asleep), I don't know who I am, my life is a lie. Everybody else probably figured this out weeks ago. Sorry, I'm slow. Anne, and now we know where Hiro enountered dinosaurs (the sword is a fake!) I'm not sure if anyone else made that connection. Huh. Wonder who Ben/Glory is. If she's the Key, I wonder what she opens. I'm going to love watching CE mentor Peter. His character seems to be one of those not really 'worthy of his power'. Hopefully, he'll begin to embrace his destiny and not become a Sylar. But with snark.
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Post by Sara on Jan 23, 2007 9:32:28 GMT -5
I was good, I didn't look here last night. So, there is one thing that occurred to me while I was watching Claire talk to the Haitian - Claire's Dawn. Claire is Key Girl (which she is; "Save the cheerleader, save the world"). Claire says things like (paraphrasing, because, half-asleep), I don't know who I am, my life is a lie. Everybody else probably figured this out weeks ago. Sorry, I'm slow. Anne, and now we know where Hiro enountered dinosaurs (the sword is a fake!) I'm not sure if anyone else made that connection. Huh. Wonder who Ben/Glory is.If she's the Key, I wonder what she opens. I'm going to love watching CE mentor Peter. His character seems to be one of those not really 'worthy of his power'. Hopefully, he'll begin to embrace his destiny and not become a Sylar. But with snark. Dude. How could it be anyone but Niki/Jessica?
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Post by RAKSHA on Jan 23, 2007 9:43:29 GMT -5
I was good, I didn't look here last night. So, there is one thing that occurred to me while I was watching Claire talk to the Haitian - Claire's Dawn. Claire is Key Girl (which she is; "Save the cheerleader, save the world"). Claire says things like (paraphrasing, because, half-asleep), I don't know who I am, my life is a lie. Everybody else probably figured this out weeks ago. Sorry, I'm slow. Anne, and now we know where Hiro enountered dinosaurs (the sword is a fake!) I must have missed, or not remembered, the following:
1. When did Nathan hook up with Isaac and come to see the paintings?
2. How is Peter connected to Nuclear Man, that suddenly he's radioactive?
Anyway, the highlight for me was, unquestionably, the Hiro/Nathan interaction, not only the Flying Man! Whoosh! bit, but Nathan's correcting Hiro's pronounciation, which for some reason utterly tickled me. I think Nathan could really use someone like Hiro around...
Claire's saying that she doesn't know who she is strikes me as very teenager/young adult, everyone goes through it. The bit about her whole life being a lie, not so much, maybe because her whole life is, in one respect, a lie.
One thing that is true, that she doesn't recognize, is that HRG does really love Claire as his daughter. I wonder how much he is going to do to his family to keep it from understanding things; how many mind-wipes before the brain gets damaged - no wonder Mrs. Bennet doesn't seem all there. And where did baby brother come from? More employees, or did HRG and the Missus actually reproduce on their own?
What worries me for the future of the show, which is having a dynamite, kickass first season, is if HEROES can maintain an appeal when some of the mystery is gone, when Hiro is a little more mature and less goofy/fanboyish, when the current heroes have met each other and learn to use their powers to some positive end? I really hope the show doesn't downgrade as I think, unfortunately, LOST (which I still watch, or will when it returns) has done.
And I would really like to see a Mohinder (still the sexiest mouth on television) and Hiro meeting and conversation - I don't know what they'd think of each other, but it could be fun.
I'd like to see Nathan fly again, too.
GAIL
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Post by Anne, Old S'cubie Cat on Jan 23, 2007 9:51:05 GMT -5
I was good, I didn't look here last night. So, there is one thing that occurred to me while I was watching Claire talk to the Haitian - Claire's Dawn. Claire is Key Girl (which she is; "Save the cheerleader, save the world"). Claire says things like (paraphrasing, because, half-asleep), I don't know who I am, my life is a lie. Everybody else probably figured this out weeks ago. Sorry, I'm slow. Anne, and now we know where Hiro enountered dinosaurs (the sword is a fake!) I must have missed, or not remembered, the following:
1. When did Nathan hook up with Isaac and come to see the paintings?
2. How is Peter connected to Nuclear Man, that suddenly he's radioactive?
Anyway, the highlight for me was, unquestionably, the Hiro/Nathan interaction, not only the Flying Man! Whoosh! bit, but Nathan's correcting Hiro's pronounciation, which for some reason utterly tickled me. I think Nathan could really use someone like Hiro around...
Claire's saying that she doesn't know who she is strikes me as very teenager/young adult, everyone goes through it. The bit about her whole life being a lie, not so much, maybe because her whole life is, in one respect, a lie.
One thing that is true, that she doesn't recognize, is that HRG does really love Claire as his daughter. I wonder how much he is going to do to his family to keep it from understanding things; how many mind-wipes before the brain gets damaged - no wonder Mrs. Bennet doesn't seem all there. And where did baby brother come from? More employees, or did HRG and the Missus actually reproduce on their own?
What worries me for the future of the show, which is having a dynamite, kickass first season, is if HEROES can maintain an appeal when some of the mystery is gone, when Hiro is a little more mature and less goofy/fanboyish, when the current heroes have met each other and learn to use their powers to some positive end? I really hope the show doesn't downgrade as I think, unfortunately, LOST (which I still watch, or will when it returns) has done.
And I would really like to see a Mohinder (still the sexiest mouth on television) and Hiro meeting and conversation - I don't know what they'd think of each other, but it could be fun.
I'd like to see Nathan fly again, too.
GAIL
I don't think Peter ever met Radioactive Guy. I think he's dreaming the possible future he picked up from Isaac. I've been wondering how mindwiped Mrs Bennet really is - what if she's in cahoots with the Haitian? He seems to have an agenda all his own. Or maybe he's connected in some way to Claire's birth parents, and that's why he didn't wipe her memory. I dunno. Too early in the morning.
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Post by Rachael on Jan 23, 2007 10:02:46 GMT -5
Okay, so overall I found the episode to be a placeholder. It didn't advance any of the plots in any significant way - it was more like "hey, remember where we were a couple months ago?" Which is something about this show that grates on me - they keep underestimating the audience with the voiceovers, too. I waited till morning to say anything, just in case something revealed itself as interesting, but mostly it was same old, same old. The one exception was Niki's bit, where she can seemingly access her power as herself. That's new. And CE is also new, but who didn't know they'd introduce him in the last two minutes of the ep?
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Post by Sara on Jan 23, 2007 10:14:08 GMT -5
Okay, so overall I found the episode to be a placeholder. It didn't advance any of the plots in any significant way - it was more like "hey, remember where we were a couple months ago?" Which is something about this show that grates on me - they keep underestimating the audience with the voiceovers, too. I waited till morning to say anything, just in case something revealed itself as interesting, but mostly it was same old, same old. The one exception was Niki's bit, where she can seemingly access her power as herself. That's new. And CE is also new, but who didn't know they'd introduce him in the last two minutes of the ep? Well, technically they introduced him at the beginning of the show: he appears in Peter's vision flashes while comatose. Total agreement from my end about the voiceovers, but that's nothing new. I agree that there wasn't a whole lot of forward motion, but I felt like there was advancement on a few fronts: most notably Nathan and Simone both becoming more involved with the group and losing their skepticism (Simone more so than Nathan) about Peter's beliefs. And I particularly liked their finding a way to get Simone more involved with the rest of the gang, as opposed to just Peter's storyline.
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Post by Sara on Jan 23, 2007 10:14:37 GMT -5
Oh, and I think my t.v. was still smoldering this morning from the appearance of half-nekkid Isaac...
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Post by Sara on Jan 23, 2007 10:53:28 GMT -5
Hmm... something just occurred to me. Was Peter invisible because CE was touching him, or was it because he'd already absorbed CE's power?
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Post by Karen on Jan 23, 2007 11:18:24 GMT -5
Hmm... something just occurred to me. Was Peter invisible because CE was touching him, or was it because he'd already absorbed CE's power? Good question. We were discussing that here (at the office), and couldn't remember if we saw that the wallet he took turned invisible. I'd vote for Peter absorbing his power, because otherwise wouldn't the sidewalk be invisible? Unless, of course, he's learned how to control that aspect of it. Were there any reports of a black hole forming 6 months ago?
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Post by Karen on Jan 23, 2007 11:20:41 GMT -5
Yeah. It really can't be a coincidence that he's connected to all the Heroes. It does make one wonder, though, a few things...like, if he knew that Hiro would need that sword...well, how did he know that? Yeah, and bad-daddy doesn't have the kind of money for the setup under the paper factory (or wholesale warehouse, or whatever it is). So I'm with Sara on the idea that he works for Linderman. I have a feeling - and it's a non-spoilery feeling - that Linderman is Claire's mom, not dad. Have we ever heard of Linderman referred to 'Mr.'?
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Post by Karen on Jan 23, 2007 11:23:21 GMT -5
I'm not sure if anyone else made that connection. Huh. Wonder who Ben/Glory is.If she's the Key, I wonder what she opens. I'm going to love watching CE mentor Peter. His character seems to be one of those not really 'worthy of his power'. Hopefully, he'll begin to embrace his destiny and not become a Sylar. But with snark. Dude. How could it be anyone but Niki/Jessica? Ooo - Seriously!
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Post by Karen on Jan 23, 2007 11:24:22 GMT -5
Oh, and I think my t.v. was still smoldering this morning from the appearance of half-nekkid Isaac... He cleans up nice. ;D
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Post by Rachael on Jan 23, 2007 11:28:16 GMT -5
Yeah, and bad-daddy doesn't have the kind of money for the setup under the paper factory (or wholesale warehouse, or whatever it is). So I'm with Sara on the idea that he works for Linderman. I have a feeling - and it's a non-spoilery feeling - that Linderman is Claire's mom, not dad. Have we ever heard of Linderman referred to 'Mr.'? Actually, I think he's frequently been referred to as "Mr." But I could be imagining that....
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