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Post by Rachael on Feb 13, 2007 16:40:31 GMT -5
Oh, of course!! Poor Matt. He isn't going to be much of a match for Jessica. Dude! Totally. But, he may get into her head in a way that no one else can . . . And how perfect was it, Micah saying "I just feel like we should be fighting crime or something"? Children can be so direct, just coming right out with "are we gonna talk about it?" - flat out bringing up the topic the adults are dancing around. I also liked the very subtle blackmail by Claire's birth mom. That quiet "maybe some day she'll run for congress". Although I'm not sure she was really angling for money, necessarily. He just tossed out the big amount and she went for it. But I think it surprised her. Plus, the whole "someone was out to get me" thing she said, which makes me think that HRG's organization was behind the fire and that's how he got Claire. Oooh, and what about poor Mrs. Bennet? Do we think the headaches are just from her injury or are all the mind-wipes starting to take their toll? Well, I think now we know there's a limit to how many times you can be flashy-thinged without permanent damage. Her memories are going - even the ones they meant for her to keep.
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Post by Rachael on Feb 13, 2007 16:47:41 GMT -5
I rather liked this episode. I liked how the writing is starting to suggest more shades of gray, such as Nathan being the softie with his mother and, imo, really really being tempted to get to know Claire. I wonder if part of his reason for staying away is that he's been told she's in a good home and he doesn't want her to get mixed up in trouble, which seems to follow him around. I also like that Matt took the diamonds. It's not "really bad" in my book, since they represent "Linderman blood money" anyway and he does need to provide for his coming baby. Brings up the whole "how do heroes survive" theme nicely. And Claire's birth mom is fitting nicely into that gray area. Some questions... *We're all assuming Linderman is a very very bad guy....or gal, right? *Why does Linderman now want Nathan dead? Did I miss something? I'm wondering about that myself. Why is Nathan suddenly a threat - when previously Linderman wanted to buy himself a Congressman? Unless the plan was to kill him all along, and the previous seeming support/bribery was part of a larger plan. Or because Nathan found out that Claire and her mother survived? I know! I was all, "No, that's his father!" ETA: Brainshare with Karen! And I agree - it's probably that HRG just didn't know that the human brain could only take so much rewiring. Of course, he might have guessed.
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Post by Rachael on Feb 13, 2007 16:49:30 GMT -5
Random observations: Nathan saw the picture of the cheerleader yes? Of course, she wasn't recognizable as an individual I guess, but didn't he know Peter went to Texas to save the cheerleader? Do you think he has any suspicions at all. Personally, I'd like to get rid of Sylar and move on to another villain (like "24" I'm betting there are levels and sub-consipiracies, etc.) I don't like him. Unfortunately they chose the actor too well....just seeing the actor creeps me out. What kind of "ability" is "melting things?" It certainly would be inconvenient if you couldn't control it.Okay, really feeling sorry for Mr. Muggles. Altering the structure of matter and playing with molecules would be neat, if you could control it. If you couldn't, it's all pudding. Right. But being like the folks in A Wrinkle in Time, where you can push the molecules aside if you need to, that'd be cool. Though very much like D.L.'s power.
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Post by Shan on Feb 13, 2007 20:27:50 GMT -5
Oh, of course!! Poor Matt. He isn't going to be much of a match for Jessica. Dude! Totally. But, he may get into her head in a way that no one else can . . . And how perfect was it, Micah saying "I just feel like we should be fighting crime or something"? Children can be so direct, just coming right out with "are we gonna talk about it?" - flat out bringing up the topic the adults are dancing around. I also liked the very subtle blackmail by Claire's birth mom. That quiet "maybe some day she'll run for congress". Although I'm not sure she was really angling for money, necessarily. He just tossed out the big amount and she went for it. But I think it surprised her.Plus, the whole "someone was out to get me" thing she said, which makes me think that HRG's organization was behind the fire and that's how he got Claire. Oooh, and what about poor Mrs. Bennet? Do we think the headaches are just from her injury or are all the mind-wipes starting to take their toll? Whoah. I thought she totally fished for that and I was very displeased.
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Post by Lola m on Feb 13, 2007 20:54:16 GMT -5
ok episode. Glad they didnt kill off Parkman, although things are not looking good for Mrs. Bennett. Sylar's eyes just lit up when Mo said he may be able to find hundreds or thousands of others. Has anyone other than HRG or the Haitian seen Sylar? He could just hook right up with Mo and have access to anyone that Mo finds. This is most disturbing. Very disturbing! I can't think of anyone else who is alive (other than Mrs Bennet, but of course she doesn't remember ) who've seen Sylar. I'm wondering if he is really right about the sword helping, myself. Well, and also wondering if he goes back in time and actually is the historical hero that his father told stories about.
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Post by Lola m on Feb 13, 2007 20:56:34 GMT -5
Interesting episode. Was it just me, or were some of the scene transitions kind of choppy, like there'd been a few seconds cut here and there? Probably to fit in more commercials. Good comments, S'cubies. I don't know what else I can add, except this, if I can make it make sense: In this world, being a "hero" doesn't mean being perfect, and having super power doesn't solve all your problems. Sometimes it makes things worse. Matt was ready to turn the diamonds over to the Vegas police until he heard the other cop's thinking that Matt was finished as a cop. That was what pushed him into keeping the diamonds, IMO. Then there's the whole Niki/Jessica thing - her power became part of the problem rather than solving it. **nods** Lots of heroes facing decisions about how to use their power and finding out the potential downsides. It's not all rollin' in puppies. I think you've got it right there. Hiro has lost his connection, his belief in himself, perhaps. And I am rather worried about Ando.
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Post by Lola m on Feb 13, 2007 21:01:17 GMT -5
I rather liked this episode. I liked how the writing is starting to suggest more shades of gray, such as Nathan being the softie with his mother and, imo, really really being tempted to get to know Claire. I wonder if part of his reason for staying away is that he's been told she's in a good home and he doesn't want her to get mixed up in trouble, which seems to follow him around. I also like that Matt took the diamonds. It's not "really bad" in my book, since they represent "Linderman blood money" anyway and he does need to provide for his coming baby. Brings up the whole "how do heroes survive" theme nicely. And Claire's birth mom is fitting nicely into that gray area. Some questions... *We're all assuming Linderman is a very very bad guy....or gal, right? *Why does Linderman now want Nathan dead? Did I miss something? That is an excellent question. Perhaps Nathan is not being as cooperative as Linderman wanted? He's not staying as "bought" as he should? I lean toward the idea that HRG simply didn't think there could be such bad consequences from the repeated mind-wipes. I think he thinks he is protecting her and Claire. I also think he is wrong about that, mostly. Heee! ;D
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Post by Lola m on Feb 13, 2007 21:02:08 GMT -5
Hiro and Ando - less than 2 weeks to the big boom. Ah, a damsel in distress. Hope?! Heeee! Well, I guess they must "have her" then. ;D Matt's mind reading helping already; at least he knows this is a dangerous situation he's heading toward. Mohinder gets one call back, at least. He's getting a taste for how hard it was for his dad to get through to people. Why is it when you want something, it's destiny, but when I do, it's coincidence? Oooh, Ando. You got him there. And it turns out the woman can trade favors for them and hopefully get them to see Linderman, plus help with disguises and so forth. So, they do the whole sit com sneak into room thing. Oh. My. That's a big gun. "Stop saying the things I say to you." Heee heeeee! Hiro, hoist on his own petard. ;D And now Ando is trapped. But at least he's not as bad off as this poor Zane Taylor fellow. Sylar!!!!!!!! EEEEEEEEK! I know. And I hate it that Sylar's victims are so likeable. First Charlie and now Zane. I liked Zane. Rotten Sylar. **nods** He was so lost-sounding on the phone message. And then he was all hopeful and eager when he thought Sylar was Mohinder.
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Post by Lola m on Feb 13, 2007 21:02:56 GMT -5
Poor Claire. She might end up with no one. Her step-mom looks like she's lost all her memories. And where has Claire's brother been? Her birthmother is a real piece of work - cheating her out of her 'half' of the hush money that Nathan is giving to her. Loved how she threw that rock at Nathan, who was visibly shaken by the fact that he has a daughter. With tears, even. Ando - easily swayed by a tall blonde with a promise. How can he believe that Hiro would leave without him So, what did happen to Niki? It looked like she escaped from the mirrors. Is she on the run, too? Random observations: Nathan saw the picture of the cheerleader yes? Of course, she wasn't recognizable as an individual I guess, but didn't he know Peter went to Texas to save the cheerleader? Do you think he has any suspicions at all. [EDIT: brainshare with KM!] Personally, I'd like to get rid of Sylar and move on to another villain (like "24" I'm betting there are levels and sub-consipiracies, etc.) I don't like him. Unfortunately they chose the actor too well....just seeing the actor creeps me out. What kind of "ability" is "melting things?" It certainly would be inconvenient if you couldn't control it. Okay, really feeling sorry for Mr. Muggles. Poor Mr. Muggles. Poor Claire. And poor poor Mrs. Bennet.
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Post by Lola m on Feb 13, 2007 21:04:48 GMT -5
Random observations: Nathan saw the picture of the cheerleader yes? Of course, she wasn't recognizable as an individual I guess, but didn't he know Peter went to Texas to save the cheerleader? Do you think he has any suspicions at all. Personally, I'd like to get rid of Sylar and move on to another villain (like "24" I'm betting there are levels and sub-consipiracies, etc.) I don't like him. Unfortunately they chose the actor too well....just seeing the actor creeps me out. What kind of "ability" is "melting things?" It certainly would be inconvenient if you couldn't control it.Okay, really feeling sorry for Mr. Muggles. Altering the structure of matter and playing with molecules would be neat, if you could control it. If you couldn't, it's all pudding. Icky pudding, too, I'll bet. Rice, or tapioca, lumpy like that.
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Post by Lola m on Feb 13, 2007 21:06:39 GMT -5
I haven't seen the episode yet, but ponder this: Jessica might be the only one powerful enough to be a physical match for Sylar and Niki might be able to push Jessica into a space where she has to take Sylar on. I don't know. It just occurred to me and I have no idea how it would work or where it would fit in. **nods** Powerful enough and crazy enough. Ooooh, and if she gets taken out, then maybe Niki is like . . . back up? So, he'd think she was dead but then Niki would step forward and croak him? And then she'd be free of Jessica.
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Post by Lola m on Feb 13, 2007 21:07:17 GMT -5
So, the title is apt. "Run!" Most everyone in the ep is running for their lives at some point, with the exception of Claire (she runs, but not because she's in danger right that second). Even the "secondary" characters in this ep are running - Claire's biological mom is taking the money and running, and Nathan's been running since we met him. Good examples!
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Post by Lola m on Feb 13, 2007 21:09:36 GMT -5
Dude! Totally. But, he may get into her head in a way that no one else can . . . And how perfect was it, Micah saying "I just feel like we should be fighting crime or something"? Children can be so direct, just coming right out with "are we gonna talk about it?" - flat out bringing up the topic the adults are dancing around. I also liked the very subtle blackmail by Claire's birth mom. That quiet "maybe some day she'll run for congress". Although I'm not sure she was really angling for money, necessarily. He just tossed out the big amount and she went for it. But I think it surprised her.Plus, the whole "someone was out to get me" thing she said, which makes me think that HRG's organization was behind the fire and that's how he got Claire. Oooh, and what about poor Mrs. Bennet? Do we think the headaches are just from her injury or are all the mind-wipes starting to take their toll? Whoah. I thought she totally fished for that and I was very displeased. I think she was fishing for something. For him to feel like he was under her power, just a bit. And then when he leaped right in with a big dollar amount, well, she grabbed it.
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Post by jeff on Feb 13, 2007 23:32:52 GMT -5
ok episode. Glad they didnt kill off Parkman, although things are not looking good for Mrs. Bennett. Sylar's eyes just lit up when Mo said he may be able to find hundreds or thousands of others. Has anyone other than HRG or the Haitian seen Sylar? He could just hook right up with Mo and have access to anyone that Mo finds. This is most disturbing. Very disturbing! I can't think of anyone else who is alive (other than Mrs Bennet, but of course she doesn't remember ) who've seen Sylar. I'm wondering if he is really right about the sword helping, myself. Well, and also wondering if he goes back in time and actually is the historical hero that his father told stories about. I really really like this observation! That would be really cool!
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Post by Matthew on Feb 13, 2007 23:46:10 GMT -5
Dude! Totally. But, he may get into her head in a way that no one else can . . . And how perfect was it, Micah saying "I just feel like we should be fighting crime or something"? Children can be so direct, just coming right out with "are we gonna talk about it?" - flat out bringing up the topic the adults are dancing around. I also liked the very subtle blackmail by Claire's birth mom. That quiet "maybe some day she'll run for congress". Although I'm not sure she was really angling for money, necessarily. He just tossed out the big amount and she went for it. But I think it surprised her.Plus, the whole "someone was out to get me" thing she said, which makes me think that HRG's organization was behind the fire and that's how he got Claire. Oooh, and what about poor Mrs. Bennet? Do we think the headaches are just from her injury or are all the mind-wipes starting to take their toll? Whoah. I thought she totally fished for that and I was very displeased. *nods* I read it as "she was fishing for money with which to make her departure from the area" too. Dissapointed me greatly. After that, the short-changing offer of "half of the money" to her daughter just confirmed what type of person she was: that she wasn't surprised by Nathan's offer in the slightest.
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