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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Feb 24, 2007 15:19:13 GMT -5
Part IV
Not everything will be held in confidence, lady. Specifically the domestic violence you're asking about.
The marks are trackers?
Radioisotope. Which one? How can that possibly be effective except close range?
Why would a paper company need pneumatic needles with a radioisotope? Good question.
Ted you're radioactive by nature. Hee.
If we can save ourselves, we can help others. We could be heroes.
Claire confronts her dad. Daddy Bennett comes clean.
People like her shouldn't have to know about people like him.
And he lost her.
Sylar's got the superhearing now.
Shot of the ipod.
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Feb 24, 2007 15:30:14 GMT -5
Coda
Life isn't a comic book.
STAN LEE!!!!! FUCKING AWESOME!!!!!!
Somebody has to protect this family from you. Go Claire! I have no idea how you're going to do it, but good for you.
All the heroes descend. It's time for payback.
What does Judas take these days.
With just one bullet I can be a hero.
OMG! That's gonna leave a mark.
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Feb 24, 2007 16:14:38 GMT -5
I didn't really feel that connected to this episode, but I think it's just me. I think I'll come back to the thread later.
Also, can we call "The Haitian" "The Man With No Name?" It sounds a lot cooler.
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Post by Lola m on Feb 24, 2007 23:35:49 GMT -5
Terrific episode. Just terrific. So much to like and a great, great ending. But - hello, Mohinder. Wake up and smell the psycho serial killer. How could you NOT know it was Sylar when he's twitching and acting weird all over you. You can be the next to go as far as I'm concerned. I'm evil but yea that Simone is gone. Kickass way to kill her off. Flying Peter is just all kinds of hot. That was awesome. And love the fact that Matt can do something besides talk to his wife. This is an interesting Triumverate isn't it? Go Claire! Agreed on pretty much all counts. The ep was great, Mohinder is completely useless, and actually dangerous to be around, now - he's been little other than a walking phone book anyway. I'm not gonna miss Simone (because I pretty much hardly noticed she was there anyway), and I'm sorta grumpy about the trauma they're about to inflict on both boys, who will of course feel (and to different degrees, actually be) responsible for her death. And Claude isn't really gone, is he? *sob* Well, Claude isn't dead, at least, so perhaps there is hope for future visits.
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Post by Lola m on Feb 24, 2007 23:39:42 GMT -5
Part II All a partner ever does is drag you under or screwing you over. A partner helps by believing in you. He keeps you honest. You take on a partner, and all you get is their blood on your hands. Very interesting discussion about partners. And it says a lot about the partners they've picked in their lives, I think. Also, I wonder if talking about partners and getting blood on your hands is partly what made Hiro start thinking of sending Ando away to keep him safe? That was a most excellent bit of flying.
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Post by Lola m on Feb 24, 2007 23:41:02 GMT -5
I didn't really feel that connected to this episode, but I think it's just me. I think I'll come back to the thread later. Also, can we call "The Haitian" "The Man With No Name?" It sounds a lot cooler. ;D
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Post by jeff on Feb 24, 2007 23:59:11 GMT -5
I didn't really feel that connected to this episode, but I think it's just me. I think I'll come back to the thread later. Also, can we call "The Haitian" "The Man With No Name?" It sounds a lot cooler. ;D we could lobby for them to make it a rule that he has no name then he can be he who must not be named
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Post by Sara on Mar 4, 2007 21:35:33 GMT -5
Another excellent review, my friend. Great point about the way Matt's storyline has developed, in many ways to the detriment of the character. And about Mohinder's being so clueless in regards to his traveling companion, although I still think he should start exhibiting signs of being a little less trusting in the very near future for me to put any faith in his intelligence. Oh, and this? "I found it highly unexpected that his IM name was “TeddyBear.”" I did too, until I remembered that "Teddy Bear" was his wife's pet name for him; it was Matt's use of the endearment that helped convince Ted Matt was hearing his wife's final thoughts. Overall, another example of your sterling work.
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Post by Queen E on Mar 4, 2007 23:08:54 GMT -5
Another excellent review, my friend. Great point about the way Matt's storyline has developed, in many ways to the detriment of the character. And about Mohinder's being so clueless in regards to his traveling companion, although I still think he should start exhibiting signs of being a little less trusting in the very near future for me to put any faith in his intelligence. Oh, and this? "I found it highly unexpected that his IM name was “TeddyBear.”" I did too, until I remembered that "Teddy Bear" was his wife's pet name for him; it was Matt's use of the endearment that helped convince Ted Matt was hearing his wife's final thoughts. Overall, another example of your sterling work. D'oh! Shoot, I should have checked the wiki; I had forgotten about that. Damn grad school; it's eating my brain! Thank you for your props; I was worried I came off a bit preachy...but I do think it's a writing issue in a lot of ways. Writing Matt as "victim of" is a really hard place from which to gain audience sympathy. It's also a problem with Mohinder; like any suspense/murder mystery (which is definitely what Mohinder is acting out), the writer has to walk a fine line to make sure that the "detective" doesn't come off as an idiot for missing big honking clues. Hence my trying to find reasons why he wouldn't see what was in front of him, at least at first. I do think he's a bit of a lateral processor... And now I'm off to comment on your most excellent review of a difficult episode! Thanks, Sara!
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Post by Lola m on Mar 11, 2007 20:37:28 GMT -5
Excellent review of “Unexpected”, Erin! Eetah for your opening paragraph dealing with Mohinder and Sylar. Context is, indeed, key. And it was a very good reminder to me to watch for instances where I am making an assumption or leap because I’ve have the advantage of seeing all the characters and their separate arcs and stories. Until or unless we discover an omniscient hero, none of the people we are watching have the luxury of knowing all that we the audience know. Nice punning with Matt and Janice. Hee! In thinking more about Matt’s story, I’ve been wondering if we’re supposed to be realizing that the things the other cops have been thinking about Matt are somewhat true. That he really was/is . . . kind of a hapless, mediocre, not that good at it, kind of guy. A nice guy, yes. A brave guy, yes. But not necessarily the brightest bulb on the tree. I mean, yeah, hiding the diamonds in his sock drawer? Unless he secretly wanted her to catch him (which is a possibility), it seems to indicate a guy who did this impulsive thing and then had no idea what to do next. But then this nice, brave, hapless guy suddenly got smacked with an ability to read minds. Which perhaps is a way for the audience to have sympathy toward him. I mean, do any of us really want to know what other people think of us? I know I don’t. And I find it interesting that in the next ep, where he truly gets to be his most heroic – very little of his heroism stems from his power. I mean, it helps with the execution of their planning and so on, but really it is more his innate nice guy, brave guy, characteristics that win the day. Not so much the reading minds thing. I really really loved your thoughts about Hiro and Ando. Your questions about Ando’s lack of integration into the mission were so wonderfully timed, especially considering what we saw in the eighteenth episode. Ditto for the comments you made regarding what constitutes heroic motivation when talking about Ted and crew, not to mention Peter, Isaac, and Simone. Oh, how we will come to see Mr. Bennet, among others, in a very different light! I think it’s going to be increasingly important to look at how different characters see themselves, as you nicely put it, “serving a greater purpose” and questioning if they really are or not. Loved your line about Simone’s death becoming a “cautionary tale about ordinary people caught in superhero crossfire”. She did deserve better than that!
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Post by Queen E on Mar 11, 2007 16:07:25 GMT -5
Excellent review of “Unexpected”, Erin! Eetah for your opening paragraph dealing with Mohinder and Sylar. Context is, indeed, key. And it was a very good reminder to me to watch for instances where I am making an assumption or leap because I’ve have the advantage of seeing all the characters and their separate arcs and stories. Until or unless we discover an omniscient hero, none of the people we are watching have the luxury of knowing all that we the audience know. Thanks, Lola! There was so much going on in the ep! (Of course, Parasite is going to be even harder, in that respect.) You are absolutely right about the omniscience thing. However, it's not the best technique for a storyteller to rely on, as there is a danger that the audience/reader will become frustrated and assume that the character in question is not very smart. I'm glad they didn't push it past Mohinder and Sylar's return to New York...if he hadn't figured it out once he was back at home base, I really would have begun to question his intelligence. Absolutely, on all of that. (And glad you liked the pun.) The sad part is, what Matt brings to the table isn't a quality that is generally noticed or appreciated. Add in the dyslexia, and even before the mind-reading ability asserted itself, he was already overly concerned with both approval and what others thought of him. But you're right; quiet strength and empathy win the day over raw power. We see that again and again with the good guys here, I think. Thank you! I was thrilled to see Ando finding his own way and realizing that whatever Hiro's failings were, in regard to "integrating" him, he could still be helpful. I think we've definitely been groomed by Buffy to think "Strength in numbers" but sometimes you really have to strike out on your own to figure out your place in the grand scheme. What's intriguing is that Hiro decided for both of them and left; Ando made a decision to position himself where he was needed, when it was obvious none of his pleading would work. Simone ended up being fatally indecisive. Maybe the important point here is to have the courage of your convictions... And thank you for commenting!
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Post by Lola m on Mar 11, 2007 16:40:15 GMT -5
Excellent review of “Unexpected”, Erin! Eetah for your opening paragraph dealing with Mohinder and Sylar. Context is, indeed, key. And it was a very good reminder to me to watch for instances where I am making an assumption or leap because I’ve have the advantage of seeing all the characters and their separate arcs and stories. Until or unless we discover an omniscient hero, none of the people we are watching have the luxury of knowing all that we the audience know. Thanks, Lola! There was so much going on in the ep! (Of course, Parasite is going to be even harder, in that respect.) You are absolutely right about the omniscience thing. However, it's not the best technique for a storyteller to rely on, as there is a danger that the audience/reader will become frustrated and assume that the character in question is not very smart. I'm glad they didn't push it past Mohinder and Sylar's return to New York...if he hadn't figured it out once he was back at home base, I really would have begun to question his intelligence. Eetah!! Especially with Sylar not exactly cutting back on the whole killing spree thing. I mean, would he really have expected that Mohinder wouldn't be checking back in with people they had just visited? Also, it would have been just too painful for the audience if they would have kept it going for too long - perpetually scared of what was going to happen to Mohinder and when. **nods** Also, we keep seeing how each characters' flaws tend to come from their earlier life experiences and issues. Like, they had the flaws all along, but the power gives them a choice of either exacerbating those flaws or letting them rise above them. Oooh, I like that distinction about how Ando reacted. And, you're welcome.
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