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Post by Matthew on May 7, 2007 23:37:17 GMT -5
"Her nucleotides are degrading?" Are they kidding me with this? Those were red blood cells, which, incidentally, are the only living cell in the human body that HAS NO DNA. Even if you could see degrading nucleotides in a non-EM image. Meanwhile, Hiro? Not so bright, maybe.... You don't need to see her DNA. These aren't the technobabble words you're looking for. Suresh can go about his business. Move along. Hey, I screamed, too. ;D
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Post by Matthew on May 7, 2007 23:42:58 GMT -5
Well, this is the Evil Mothers' Episode - and airs six days before Mother's Day. Do you think that was intended?
We have three pairs of Mothers and Sons - Nathan and Mother Petrelli, Sylar and Mother Sylar, Micah and Faux-Nikki.
The issues of special sons and their mothers' way of dealing with their sons' unusual talents comes out here:
Mother Petrelli is the bigtime manipulator, playing for a destiny of power in a game that has probably gone on for a time longer than her son has been aware of it, and using her son as a pawn to gain that power. She wants him to be President, she plans for him to be President, that his great future will be accomplished by the deaths of millions of people doesn't seem to bother her at all. She has one weakness, or seems to; and that is Claire; she's not handing her grand-daughter over to the wolves she works with, she's trying to send her out of harm's way; at least I think so.
Nathan is still wrestling with the awful price that has been arranged for him to pay to achieve that very special position of President. Will he overcome the Dark Side, or join it?
And does Mother Petrelli know that Lindermann tried to kill Nathan and succeeded in paralyzing Nathan's wife? Or did she approve the strike?
We see, in the reunion of Sylar and his mother, the origin of his drive to be special. Gabriel had evidently been content, at one time, to be quietly excellent in a quiet occupation. It seems to be his mother's idea that he must go for power and riches, that he could be "anyone", investment banker or President. Yet she cannot handle what is truly special about Sylar, his talent; instead of trying to help him, she rejects him as a demon, and thus they are both lost, herself to death and Sylar to monstrosity and (hopefully) death before he can cause much more harm.
The third pairing of Son and Mother is the oddest, since there are actually three Mothers to one Son here. Micah has been apparently given to a man he dislikes and might sense is evil, by his own mother, because Micah, like the other two Sons influenced by their mothers in this episodes, is Special. Micah is a child, and wants to please his mother, so he stays, but he seems to know that something is very wrong here. He makes a run for it; I personally think he still believed it was his mother, or one of his mothers (either Nicki or Jessica); hence the apology, when he bolted. But he was betrayed by his pseudo-Mother, and is still a captive. But unlike the other Mothers seen tonight, Micah is pursued by his true Mother and father, who want to save him from evil, not throw him into it (like Mother Petrelli) or abandon him to it (Mother Sylar's reaction). And Micah has two Mothers - Nicki and Jessica; and both of them love him and will do their best to save him. I'm wondering if they might even merge into one personality.
Just why did Lindermann shadow D.L and Jessica and, it's hinted, connive at Micah's creation? I'm getting a horrible idea; though I could be wrong, that Micah is the intended Mutant Poster Child for Lindermann's post-Armaggedon plans; though whether those plans brought about the genoicide that Five-Year-Future Sylar and Parkman planned, or Lindermann would prefer to exploit mutants rather than kill them, I have no idea.
GAIL
*reads in impressed wowitude* Good thoughts, Gail. I think Momma Petrelli is intentionally based on Landsbury's character from MC; her speech is just as tinged with "the little people don't matter one little whit: it's power and the work of the masters that matter" that Mrs. Iselin had in that movie. I think that she likely knew about Linderman's attempt on Nathan: and I get the feeling that she's mildy irritated that Nathan's wife isn't dead, but that Mrs. Nathan is such a non-entity to her that she doesn't really care. I get the feelng that Claire is only important to her as far as the fact that she has a special talent: that she's effectively indestructible: and that could come in handy.
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Post by Rachael on May 7, 2007 23:55:50 GMT -5
Yeah. I sorta saw that coming. Make Sylar human just long enough to strip the last of what made him human away. You just knew, when he showed up at Mom's door, that he was gonna kill her.
And Hiro...I get the hesitation, I really do, but...dammit, someone cut the man's head off!
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Post by Rachael on May 8, 2007 0:10:21 GMT -5
*sigh*
Nathan has gone bye-bye. I think. I hope not, but...yeah.
Seeing as how no one has given a convincing reason why blowing up half of New York is a good idea - no decent explanation of what problem in life this is gonna address - and yet he keeps coming back on board.
And also - things are already changing, or else the way the future is supposed to unfold has been very nicely hidden for eight months. I mean, IF the future goes as we've been led to believe it goes, then Peter is two to four days early.
Not to mention that Hiro discovered what seemed to be a somewhat fresh Isaac-corpse the first time around, and that was (at the time) the same day as the bomb...also days earlier, now, I think.
Oh...huh. Peter can't get the scar Future Hiro remembers now, can he? It was because, in that timeline, he didn't save Claire. But now he has, so, no scars.
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Post by Rachael on May 8, 2007 0:14:16 GMT -5
Hi, everyone! *waves* Just popping in to share my wild and crazy theory for the finale that emerged after seeing tonight's show and the clips for next week. The whole "exploding man" thing? Total mislead. "The bomb" is literally a bomb (or some other type of electric machine or chain reaction) and Linderman is going to use Micah as the trigger. Oooh. I like. Makes sense with some of the altered timeline stuff, too.
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Post by Pixi on May 8, 2007 8:59:47 GMT -5
Yeah. I sorta saw that coming. Make Sylar human just long enough to strip the last of what made him human away. You just knew, when he showed up at Mom's door, that he was gonna kill her. And Hiro...I get the hesitation, I really do, but...dammit, someone cut the man's head off! Oh word. My thoughts: I didn't think this was as fantastic as last week. It felt more like a setting things up episode, getting players into place. I like Molly's talent. Very neat. And Sara - you were right. Shapeshifter gal does change people's perceptions of what they see. Good call. I ended up feeling frustrated most of this episode. I know they can't kill Sylar now but everyone just seemed to be kind of aimlessly milling around. Go here, go there, talk to this person, talk to that person. I'm ready for more shocking, abrupt moments. (Or maybe I was still in a feisty mood after DWTS.) I liked Claire's comment when she heard that her dad can fly. Hee! That was cute and perfectly acted. I do have to say, it's a real shame they made Peter and Claire related because they have so much chemistry together. Sigh. So Mama Petrelli is part of Linderman's plan huh? And yes - I do see the parallels. On the one hand you have Sylar whose nutcase Mom wants him to be "special". Kudos to the show for giving us some layers to Sylar. Yes, he was scary as this implacable killer/power taker but it always adds omph to a story when you feel a tiny smidgen of sympathy for the scary serial killer. And the scene where he is knocking his head against the door - well done. Very well done. Then we have Nathan's Mom who wants him to let thousands die for the greater good. Both of them are certifiable. The ends justify the means? Not so much. Hmmm. Hiro finds his mojo from Ando's death but is still too tentative and hesitant. I must admit I wasn't worried Sylar would find them behind the painting as I was sure they would telport out of there in time. Alright why was Sylar drawing in his mother's blood? I didn't think he was going to kill her though. I thought he would leave her imprisoned in a snow globe of her own. Why did Claire let Peter get near Nuclear Ted? And did the show really think we were worried Peter was going to explode right then? We did see the previews after all.
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Post by Anne, Old S'cubie Cat on May 8, 2007 10:28:30 GMT -5
Hi, everyone! *waves* Just popping in to share my wild and crazy theory for the finale that emerged after seeing tonight's show and the clips for next week. The whole "exploding man" thing? Total mislead. "The bomb" is literally a bomb (or some other type of electric machine or chain reaction) and Linderman is going to use Micah as the trigger. Oooh. I like. Makes sense with some of the altered timeline stuff, too. Linderman didn't know about Ted until recently, and I have the impression that his evil blow-up-New-York plan has been in the works for a long time. Nathan scares me. ETA: I was also kind of lukewarm about this episode, but it was definitely setting up things for next week, so I'll just wait and see.
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Post by Karen on May 8, 2007 10:32:35 GMT -5
Oooh. I like. Makes sense with some of the altered timeline stuff, too. Linderman didn't know about Ted until recently, and I have the impression that his evil blow-up-New-York plan has been in the works for a long time. Interesting theory. Maybe the fact that Peter blows up is a good thing. He might cancel out the real bomb.
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Post by Queen E on May 8, 2007 17:06:55 GMT -5
Maybe what makes Matt so hard in the future is, you know, taking out the Walker System.
I can't imagine that killing a little girl would make you feel great about yourself.
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Post by Queen E on May 8, 2007 17:10:02 GMT -5
And actually, seeing the Super Emo Bangs back in action this week, I realized how much I missed them.
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Post by Onjel on May 8, 2007 20:04:24 GMT -5
Maybe what makes Matt so hard in the future is, you know, taking out the Walker System. I can't imagine that killing a little girl would make you feel great about yourself. Works for me. It wouldn't make me a happy camper, that's for sure.
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Post by Onjel on May 8, 2007 20:06:12 GMT -5
Well, that was horrific. Sylar offing his mother and losing what little humanity was buried inside. Planning ahead on how to become "president", setting in motion the old shape shifting into Nathan.
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Post by Onjel on May 8, 2007 20:18:02 GMT -5
FYI, Molly Walker is the girl Matthew found in the second episode. Making his disgust at himself for having to kill her more believable.
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Post by Onjel on May 8, 2007 21:01:15 GMT -5
Hi, everyone! *waves* Just popping in to share my wild and crazy theory for the finale that emerged after seeing tonight's show and the clips for next week. The whole "exploding man" thing? Total mislead. "The bomb" is literally a bomb (or some other type of electric machine or chain reaction) and Linderman is going to use Micah as the trigger. Interesting theory. Works with my thought that to really prevent the destruction of Manhattan they need to get Micah away from Linderman and that would likely involve eliminating Candice, also preventing Sylar from taking her power and "becoming" Nathan.
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Post by Onjel on May 8, 2007 21:02:40 GMT -5
"Her nucleotides are degrading?" Are they kidding me with this? Those were red blood cells, which, incidentally, are the only living cell in the human body that HAS NO DNA. Even if you could see degrading nucleotides in a non-EM image. Meanwhile, Hiro? Not so bright, maybe.... I know. Try not to listen to the "geneticist" bits. Judicious deafness is how I handle shows about the law or lawyers.
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