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Post by Karen on Oct 9, 2007 20:08:28 GMT -5
See, that scene gave me angry eyebrows for a totally different reason: in the first season finale, when Niki knocked Candace unconscious she changed from Jessica to being the Candace we already knew—which told me that was in fact what Candace actually looked like, as it strongly implied she couldn't maintain any illusion unless she was consciously choosing to do so. Which totally makes sense to me—it's a power she obviously chooses when and where to use, indicating it's not a 24/7 ability like Claire's (ie one that can't be "shut off") but one that's employed at will, like D. L.'s or Micah's. So showing her corpse as a completely different body type here is not only wildly inconsistent but highly implausible. But I totally agree with your point as well. All of which makes me wonder if Sylar isn't still trapped inside an illusion, and Candace isn't really dead at all. My brain hurts. Yes. Onjel mentioned that she thought the shed was an illusion and it still could be. Not sure why they would think that showing Candice in a different form was important, tho. My brain hurts, too. As far as killing 2 African Americans, well, there has been plenty of white deaths. Ted, Isaac, that girl that Sylar killed. The cheerleader. And also, Asian. So I don't see a problem there.
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Post by Queen E on Oct 10, 2007 2:22:41 GMT -5
All of which makes me wonder if Sylar isn't still trapped inside an illusion, and Candace isn't really dead at all. My brain hurts. Yes. Onjel mentioned that she thought the shed was an illusion and it still could be. Not sure why they would think that showing Candice in a different form was important, tho. My brain hurts, too. As far as killing 2 African Americans, well, there has been plenty of white deaths. Ted, Isaac, that girl that Sylar killed. The cheerleader. And also, Asian. So I don't see a problem there. It's a representation thing, in some part, as well as a action and horror film/television convention. The African American character is often the first to die, or at least be considered expendable. In the first season, there were only two African-American semi-regulars: Simone and DL. Both are now dead. Given the ratio of white heroes to African American, Asian, Indian, or Hispanic heroes, the deaths are more problematic because of the fact that they are underrepresented on television, and often underrepresented in a positive light. I can't help but see it; it's my job now.
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Post by Karen on Oct 10, 2007 9:40:46 GMT -5
Yes. Onjel mentioned that she thought the shed was an illusion and it still could be. Not sure why they would think that showing Candice in a different form was important, tho. My brain hurts, too. As far as killing 2 African Americans, well, there has been plenty of white deaths. Ted, Isaac, that girl that Sylar killed. The cheerleader. And also, Asian. So I don't see a problem there. It's a representation thing, in some part, as well as a action and horror film/television convention. The African American character is often the first to die, or at least be considered expendable. In the first season, there were only two African-American semi-regulars: Simone and DL. Both are now dead. Given the ratio of white heroes to African American, Asian, Indian, or Hispanic heroes, the deaths are more problematic because of the fact that they are underrepresented on television, and often underrepresented in a positive light. I can't help but see it; it's my job now. Heh. I see it, too, but I guess I'm not ready to assume it was a conscious decision on the writer's part. Heroes has a very diverse ethnic ensemble. And I think Mohinder and Hiro are the most important heroes, so.... But on TV as a whole, you are right. There are not many shows with a mixed ensemble that have an African American in the lead role, or as one of the leads. Day Break was an exception. Grey's, too. Although, he shot himself in the foot with his anti-gay comment.
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Oct 14, 2007 5:44:45 GMT -5
Teaser
Peter's telepathy. That was an awfully convenient time fro that to kick in.
"somewhere in Mexico" Snerk.
Alejandro gets captured. That won't be good.
Nikki and Micah!
DL did die. Boo.
Sylar on a relaxing on a beach. in Maui. Didn't see that one coming.
Candace--> Michelle.
Illusions. So they're probably not in Maui. Yep, in some secret underground lair.
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Oct 14, 2007 6:00:50 GMT -5
Part I
A Pedicure. Mmm-hmm.
Nichelle Nichols in the credits!
Mohinder and Suresh Lovers Quarrel?
Ando's back in Toyko.
Ando find a secret message from Hiro.
Hiro's a devil.
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Oct 14, 2007 6:08:40 GMT -5
Part II
Peter's trying to control his powers consciously.
Is Alejandro's cellmate supposed to be familiar.
Wow, West is being an ass.
Hiro and Kensei about having powers.
Hiro explaining evolution to Kensei.
West takes Claire flying.
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Oct 14, 2007 6:26:23 GMT -5
Part III
The heist.
Suresh didn't know that Isaac was murdered?
The Paper Company set up Suresh's lab in Isaac's old loft.
Micah in hiding like Claire.
Where is Nikki going to go?
I have to do this. That's what you always say before you do something bad.
Uhura!
Ah, they're in NOLA.
The black oil doesn't seem to be an automatic reaction for Maya. So she has some degree of control over it?
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Oct 14, 2007 10:01:24 GMT -5
Part IV
So now the duo becomes a trio.
Hiro is Kensei's conscience.
Hiro can't leave the time period when he tries. Does that mean that he still has unfinished business in the 1600s?
Sylar's lost his stolen powers.
Sylar kills Candace. Like in Five Years Gone.
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Oct 14, 2007 10:10:18 GMT -5
Part V
Candace's true form.
Sylar didn't absorb Candace's power.
Caitlan has the symbol. Hmm.
West and Claire bonding over their powers.
Claire does feel pain, she just gets over it quickly. So why all the gratuitous displays of her power?
West has a tracker.
Daddy Bennett was the one who bagged and tagged West. Unless there are other people at the Paper Company with a penchant for horn rimmed glasses. That'll put a crimp in things.
Nikki wants to be cured by Midas. In exchange for something else. It never ends, does it?
Another of the paintings.
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Oct 14, 2007 10:17:35 GMT -5
I get the feeling this is supposed to be meaningful to us. Is this the mascot of Claire's school, for example? The bullet just kind of popping out was a nice freaky touch, wasn't it? ;D We're seeing the dark side to Peter, aren't we? And I'm not as convinced as she was that he would have stopped if she hadn't intervened. I wonder if we will see that it really takes 2 superpowered people to be Kensei. I mean, he is one heck of a lengendary guy. I still can't decide if she's really dead or if the whole thing is an illusion, to make him think that a) he's powerless and b) he's hurt and lost in a jungle. But the more likely scenario is that he really did kill her and is currently unable to access or accumulate powers. Which means he's just an ordinary psycho killer. For now. I think surfer-dude had Claire's car, that he'd stolen. It was a Nissan Rogue... Ohhh...
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Post by Anne, Old S'cubie Cat on Oct 14, 2007 13:36:24 GMT -5
Part IV So now the duo becomes a trio. Hiro is Kensei's conscience.Hiro can't leave the time period when he tries. Does that mean that he still has unfinished business in the 1600s? Sylar's lost his stolen powers. Sylar kills Candace. Like in Five Years Gone. Oh! Oh! Hiro is Kensei's conscience the way Ando was Hiro's! Maybe? I thought Hiro stayed because he chose to, not because he couldn't.
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Post by Karen on Oct 14, 2007 18:32:20 GMT -5
Loved your review, Sara h. Although you say you didn't like the episode all that much, I found your insights entertaining and, well, insightful. And then there's Kensei, who went from gloating over how he was going to be "richer than the Pope" to thanking Hiro for setting him on the right path, even though from all our previous experiences with him you'd expect Kensei to at least be a little grumpy about being stranded with 90 pissed-off ronin.Oh, I so agree here. I mean, what a turnaround. I didn't expect Kensei's reaction at all, but wrote it off to the fact that his recent battle might have caused him to have an epiphany. And what caused Hiro's sudden decision to stay after saying he was leaving? On the rewatch, Mr. Goldenspoon showed up in the scene after West's reveal of Hornrimmed Glasses guy, Claire's dad. Mr. Goldenspoon has similar glasses - do you suppose that is who the dead man in Isaac's painting, and not Noah? I like the theory that Kensai might be still alive. But isn't he still in the past at this time? *mind boggles* Thanks for a great review!
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Post by Sara on Oct 14, 2007 18:47:41 GMT -5
Loved your review, Sarah. Although you say you didn't like the episode all that much, I found your insights entertaining and, well, insightful. And then there's Kensei, who went from gloating over how he was going to be "richer than the Pope" to thanking Hiro for setting him on the right path, even though from all our previous experiences with him you'd expect Kensei to at least be a little grumpy about being stranded with 90 pissed-off ronin.Oh, I so agree here. I mean, what a turnaround. I didn't expect Kensei's reaction at all, but wrote it off to the fact that his recent battle might have caused him to have an epiphany. And what caused Hiro's sudden decision to stay after saying he was leaving? On the rewatch, Mr. Goldenspoon showed up in the scene after West's reveal of Hornrimmed Glasses guy, Claire's dad. Mr. Goldenspoon has similar glasses - do you suppose that is who the dead man in Isaac's painting, and not Noah? I like the theory that Kensai might be still alive. But isn't he still in the past at this time? *mind boggles* Thanks for a great review! Thank you for the kind words. In fact, I'm so appreciative I'm going to ignore the part where you spelled my name wrong.
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Post by Karen on Oct 14, 2007 19:09:33 GMT -5
Loved your review, Sarah. Although you say you didn't like the episode all that much, I found your insights entertaining and, well, insightful. And then there's Kensei, who went from gloating over how he was going to be "richer than the Pope" to thanking Hiro for setting him on the right path, even though from all our previous experiences with him you'd expect Kensei to at least be a little grumpy about being stranded with 90 pissed-off ronin.Oh, I so agree here. I mean, what a turnaround. I didn't expect Kensei's reaction at all, but wrote it off to the fact that his recent battle might have caused him to have an epiphany. And what caused Hiro's sudden decision to stay after saying he was leaving? On the rewatch, Mr. Goldenspoon showed up in the scene after West's reveal of Hornrimmed Glasses guy, Claire's dad. Mr. Goldenspoon has similar glasses - do you suppose that is who the dead man in Isaac's painting, and not Noah? I like the theory that Kensai might be still alive. But isn't he still in the past at this time? *mind boggles* Thanks for a great review! Thank you for the kind words. In fact, I'm so appreciative I'm going to ignore the part where you spelled my name wrong. Oh, so very sorry, Sara.
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Post by Anne, Old S'cubie Cat on Oct 14, 2007 19:35:55 GMT -5
A fine and insightful review, Sara. You picked out both the weaknesses and strengths in the episode, with style (I love the way you write).
I'm trying to look at this one as a transitional episode, setting up stuff for later. I hope so, because if it isn't, I'm going to be very disappointed in this season.
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