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Post by Sara on Nov 5, 2007 9:34:53 GMT -5
Today's fun Heroes fact: Ashley Crow, the wonderful actress who portrays Sandra Bennet, is married to Matthew John Armstrong, who played Ted Sprague. Adds a whole other dimension to those scenes in the Bennet home when Ted was threatening to shoot Sandra, don't it?
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Post by Karen on Nov 5, 2007 21:16:06 GMT -5
Today's fun Heroes fact: Ashley Crow, the wonderful actress who portrays Sandra Bennet, is married to Matthew John Armstrong, who played Ted Sprague. Adds a whole other dimension to those scenes in the Bennet home when Ted was threatening to shoot Sandra, don't it? Interesting! West is starting to creep me out. I don't think that his HRG guy is Claire's dad, tho. Too bad she hid the picture from him.
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Post by Lola cant log in from home on Nov 5, 2007 21:24:03 GMT -5
Huh. Kensei wants half the country and he as his princess. So, sort of like how it's supposed to go only not. "I will change history." Ooooh. Friction between Mr BB and Mohinder. "My family is in danger!" "So that makes my life expendable?" Um. Judging from his previous actions? I'm thinking yes. Huh. So, Matt and Nathan are trying to help Bob and company now? Or just trying to get info, or . . . ? West. Oy, too too cutesy West. And yeah, Claire is right with the "you can't just do whatever you want" thing. Ah. Nathan is trying to get info out of Bob. 'Cuz, yeah, why is he trying to kill all the old-timers? Presuming it really was him killing them. Bob wants to use the virus, which is a likely candidate for the "most everybody is dead" future thing. Heh! "Always underestimate women - their folly" indeed. ;D And his head clears enough to jump them all, but to where and when? That's what I want to know! Or did he just freeze time and they ran? Eeeeep! Not so fun nekkid Peter. I mean, yes, nekkid. But not a good reason for the nekkid. That's a lot of dead people all over the world. The world would pretty much stop functioning.
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Post by Lola on Nov 5, 2007 21:25:55 GMT -5
Today's fun Heroes fact: Ashley Crow, the wonderful actress who portrays Sandra Bennet, is married to Matthew John Armstrong, who played Ted Sprague. Adds a whole other dimension to those scenes in the Bennet home when Ted was threatening to shoot Sandra, don't it? Interesting! West is starting to creep me out. I don't think that his HRG guy is Claire's dad, tho. Too bad she hid the picture from him. West is just too . . . . too . . . erk. And I have big suspicions that his HRG guy was actually Bob. And I still think West is working for The Man.
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Post by Lola yes still logless on Nov 5, 2007 21:45:51 GMT -5
Matt is making the connections. Comparing himself to his dad, comparing Molly to himself as a child. Yes! If you have you dad's power and he put Molly into this state, you can get her out! Go, Matt! Nikki makes a pursuasive argument, but so does Mohinder. "Just because there's a safety net doesn't make it ethical." I wonder if one of the "twists" this year is that the Company is really trying to do good (sort of) and Mr BB is on the wrong side again in trying to fight them? Maybe. But I'm still suspicious. Oooh! D.L.!!! I'll bet he's a dream image sent by Matt's pop. "You're a killer, you're doing to kill everyone" "they're think you're still crazy". Yeah, that's The First style talk, so I'm thinking evil dream guy. Correct! Cool - info about Adam. Given to us right away, no waiting. Coolio! So, as we guessed from name, he is a "founder" guy. (But we don't know if he's Kensei still alive in now times.) Gave them the whole idea of doing things to "save the world" but went off the rails, got all "I am God" and started down the Linderman path until they locked him up and now he's out for revenge, using Matt's daddy. Hmmmmmm. Methinks this is not, shall we say, the whole truth. Future!Peter meets up with momma P and she gets him to remember! Oh, is this her power? Just a memory jogger or is she a general "go into your mind" person. 'Cuz the way she made Matt back out of her mind at the jail a few eps back makes me think it's more that just a memory jog thing. And now Peter is supposed to jump back and stop this from happening. Mirror's Hiro's adventures in the past as well as last season.
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Post by Karen on Nov 5, 2007 22:11:39 GMT -5
Interesting! West is starting to creep me out. I don't think that his HRG guy is Claire's dad, tho. Too bad she hid the picture from him. West is just too . . . . too . . . erk. And I have big suspicions that his HRG guy was actually Bob. And I still think West is working for The Man. Well, I was wrong about Bob. West looked totally wigged out when he found out about the HRG. So, not working for Bob. Maybe working for Adam? And how about who Adam turned out to be? I totally called it! *blows own horn* ;D
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Post by Logless Lola on Nov 5, 2007 22:38:52 GMT -5
Shared head phone necking while the dog watches. Cliche, much? Popsicles?! Subtext much? Well, so much for my theory. It was Mr BB that grabbed him. Ah, or else . . . or else this is a clever ploy to divert Claire!! "Pain has made him cruel, but he is good inside." The good inside sounds more like you, Hiro. Matt's daddy using DL again. Ah, and the idea that she's harming Micah, definitely her biggest fear. Sword fight - woo hoo! In a burning gunpowder room - holy crap get the woo hoo out of there you two! Even up to the end, Hiro is still all "take my hand". But Kensei is stuck in revenge mode. Which is sounding very much like our mythical Adam guy. So, the folks who thought Kensei is still alive are, I'm thinking, right. 'Cuz if Claire can survive a nuclear fire and grow a new toe, well . . . this might take a bit more time but I'm thinking he can do it. The company had Peter, "tracked" him to Cork. Using killer fireball girl, perhaps? Who is Bob's daughter, I'm thinking? Oh, Matt's gotten into Molly's mind! Yay! And he bring's daddy along with him. Which, I'm thinking, distracted him from the visions he was sending to Nikki, thus allowing her to inject herself and not kill everyone. "I loved you, Matt." "Then turn yourself in." "That's . . . not gonna happen." ;D Nicely timed pause there. Oh, very very well played, Matt! He really got it totally right - "this isn't mynightmare, this is yours". So, he trades dad for Molly. She wakes up and dad is all "don't leave me alone", thus being a good comparison/mirror for Matt as a kid. Lots of excellent mirroring with these three in this ep. Oh! Interesting!!! Caitlain left in the future. So, if he changes things, is she stuck there? Or is she in any future and he just has to make it to that date and find her there? Hiro the hero. "At what price?" Ah, a friend betrayed. One of the things that was guaranteed to be a hot button issue for Hiro. (But I don't for one moment believe Kensei is dead.) The final story, cutting out his heart. So, that's not literal but metaphorical. He leaves her so as to not change history again and she spreads the stories that he'll listen to in the future as a child. Symmetry. Uh oh. Mohinder has the nose bandage that was in the future painting. Which means a gun can't be too far behind. And, the virus did mutate, like he was afraid it was. So, is this the beginning of the future plague? Or a red herring? Hiro! Ando!! Head!!! "I had to get you a souvenir." Heee! Happy Hiro is such a joy to watch. "No bomb! No boom!" But then, sad reality intrudes. Dad was murdered. Aaaaaand here's the gun. "I'm saying we should be prepared." Tells Mohinder about Mr BB killing his old buddy, which nicely fits what he already knows and fears. And so Mohinder confesses. Which is either the trap that Bob has been baiting all along or else a smart move. Or something in between. I can empathize with Mohinder. "I am unsure what's right or wrong. It's time to stop playing games." Claire is the answer to the mutated plague? Unless they eat brains like Sylar, how are they planning to make use of her power? Mrs BB is also spilling beans. Boyfriend beans. Which leads to the inevitiable confrontation. (A mutant version of "but I looooove him and you can't stop me and you'll never understaaaaand". ) Only this also includes "we're leaving" and "you're going without me". Aha!!!! Aha aha aha! We were all so very very right!! Kensei is still alive and he's Adam! Woah. So, is this all a long long loooong trap to get his arch nemesis Hiro? Or did he really just become a "we're goning to fix the world turned I think I'm God" guy over the years? 'Cuz that's a whole lotta years to be alive. And next week we get backstory/fill in gaps story! Yays!
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Post by RAKSHA on Nov 5, 2007 22:40:09 GMT -5
West is just too . . . . too . . . erk. And I have big suspicions that his HRG guy was actually Bob. And I still think West is working for The Man. Well, I was wrong about Bob. West looked totally wigged out when he found out about the HRG. So, not working for Bob. Maybe working for Adam? And how about who Adam turned out to be? I totally called it! *blows own horn* ;D
Well, hey, you certainly did call it! Adam=Kensei. And he's still got it in for Hiro, I assume. I wonder how long he's been waiting for Hiro to be born in order to exact vengeance, and if he wants to destroy the world or just all the heroes.
And another episode enjoyable for its lack of Sylar and the Gloom Twins.
What happens when Sylar meets Adam? Hopefully Adam will squash him like a bug; or they'll destroy each other.
Do you think Adam has been waiting around since Hiro left, for centuries - that's a long time to nurse a grudge.
What's happened to Caitlin?
I can't believe that Mo-mo betrayed HRG to the Company. Is Mo-Mo becoming the new Company Man, or is he playing a deeper game? I also can't believe that HRG was dumb enough to accidentally leave his fingerprints in the home of the guy he murdered? (I noticed that last week...)
GAIL
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Post by Lola loling on Nov 5, 2007 22:43:23 GMT -5
West is just too . . . . too . . . erk. And I have big suspicions that his HRG guy was actually Bob. And I still think West is working for The Man. Well, I was wrong about Bob. West looked totally wigged out when he found out about the HRG. So, not working for Bob. Maybe working for Adam? And how about who Adam turned out to be? I totally called it! *blows own horn* ;D You so totally called it. **helps with the horn tooting**
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Post by Matthew on Nov 6, 2007 1:16:16 GMT -5
Allrightie. I was completely blown away by the last thirty seconds of this show. Did NOT expect that particular face to turn up with that name. And my GOD but does that raise all sortsa questions!
And it's officially OVER between me and Mo-Mo. He's a complete dip who is flopping ALL over the map in his loyalties.
He's still rather pretty, but that doesn't mean that he doesn't have to pick a viewpoint and stick with it for longer than three freakin' minutes.
Also? If the actress playing Molly doesn't get an Oscar by the time she's 25, I'll be astonished. And Greg Grunberg shone today, too.
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Post by Anne, Old S'cubie Cat on Nov 6, 2007 8:39:23 GMT -5
Well, I was wrong about Bob. West looked totally wigged out when he found out about the HRG. So, not working for Bob. Maybe working for Adam? And how about who Adam turned out to be? I totally called it! *blows own horn* ;D You so totally called it. **helps with the horn tooting** S'cubies are the greatest (but not the bomb, because boom=not of the good). Dumb thought - last season, Linderman's plan was, if I remember right, about killing 7% of the population to save the rest. This season, the plague has killed 93% of the population. Lindernman's plan vs the Company's plan? 7%+93%=100%? Weird number stuff. I had other thoughts, but I misplaced them. Maybe later. I wonder if Adam-Kensei's plan is revenge on Hiro, because that's a heck of a long-range plan. Matthew's right, MoMo is a total and complete dip. Nitwit. Okay, here's a thought - the painting showed MoMo with a gun, pointing it at somebody. Doesn't have to be Noah. still in denial...
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Post by Queen E on Nov 6, 2007 13:40:59 GMT -5
But...if Kensei/Adam is really evil, or playing a long game for revenge, then why pair him with Peter? Peter and Hiro both represent the conscience. So to have Kensei/Adam paired with both? I don't think that's an accident.
Here's what I'm really curious about, and I know it's already been answered last season, but two blondes with regenerative ability? Is Claire really a Petrelli? Or is she really Kensei's daughter?
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Post by Anne, Old S'cubie Cat on Nov 6, 2007 13:56:20 GMT -5
But...if Kensei/Adam is really evil, or playing a long game for revenge, then why pair him with Peter? Peter and Hiro both represent the conscience. So to have Kensei/Adam paired with both? I don't think that's an accident. Here's what I'm really curious about, and I know it's already been answered last season, but two blondes with regenerative ability? Is Claire really a Petrelli? Or is she really Kensei's daughter? Maybe Peter will succeed in giving Kensei a conscience where Hiro failed. If I can organize my thoughts... If Kensei had succeeded in recruiting Peter before Peter remembered who he is, it'd be different - without his sense of self, his memories, Peter could've been molded into a weapon, but now he is the conscience of the show again. I think. As to Claire, her mom is a blonde with powers. Maybe she's a Kensei-descendent. I like the idea of all of them being descendents of Kensei's line; it makes his calling himself "Adam" more pointed.
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Post by Queen E on Nov 6, 2007 14:36:53 GMT -5
But...if Kensei/Adam is really evil, or playing a long game for revenge, then why pair him with Peter? Peter and Hiro both represent the conscience. So to have Kensei/Adam paired with both? I don't think that's an accident. Here's what I'm really curious about, and I know it's already been answered last season, but two blondes with regenerative ability? Is Claire really a Petrelli? Or is she really Kensei's daughter? Maybe Peter will succeed in giving Kensei a conscience where Hiro failed. If I can organize my thoughts... If Kensei had succeeded in recruiting Peter before Peter remembered who he is, it'd be different - without his sense of self, his memories, Peter could've been molded into a weapon, but now he is the conscience of the show again. I think. As to Claire, her mom is a blonde with powers. Maybe she's a Kensei-descendent. I like the idea of all of them being descendents of Kensei's line; it makes his calling himself "Adam" more pointed. Oh! I like that! Brilliant! Hmm...My guess? We found out Peter was at The Company after the explosion. We don't know whether he had his memory then, or lost it sometime after. I'm thinking after being at The Company, otherwise, he would have remembered Adam. We found out Adam escaped The Company...somehow, Peter must have helped him escape, perhaps using DL's phasing power... I'm betting it was something like Mr. Bennett, Ted, and Matt last year.
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Post by Anne, Old S'cubie Cat on Nov 6, 2007 14:45:24 GMT -5
Maybe Peter will succeed in giving Kensei a conscience where Hiro failed. If I can organize my thoughts... If Kensei had succeeded in recruiting Peter before Peter remembered who he is, it'd be different - without his sense of self, his memories, Peter could've been molded into a weapon, but now he is the conscience of the show again. I think. As to Claire, her mom is a blonde with powers. Maybe she's a Kensei-descendent. I like the idea of all of them being descendents of Kensei's line; it makes his calling himself "Adam" more pointed. Oh! I like that! Brilliant! Hmm...My guess? We found out Peter was at The Company after the explosion. We don't know whether he had his memory then, or lost it sometime after. I'm thinking after being at The Company, otherwise, he would have remembered Adam. We found out Adam escaped The Company...somehow, Peter must have helped him escape, perhaps using DL's phasing power... I'm betting it was something like Mr. Bennett, Ted, and Matt last year. *Blushes* I was thinking that Peter's amnesia was a result of the explosion - we don't know how much regeneration was involved, after all. The Company certainly could've done something to him, with drugs, if nothing else. Good thoughts about Peter helping Adam escape. Maybe next week we'll get some answers. I'm mostly happy that Hiro and Ando are back together, even if Ando had sad news. I wonder if Ando knows what Mr Nakamura was going to give to Hiro?
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