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Post by Karen on Dec 3, 2007 23:41:22 GMT -5
I wondered when Nathan started with all the noble talk if he was going to be the one to buy it. Looked like Noah walking away in the crowd after Nathan was shot. Momma is a really bad dude. There is not much of the older generation left, but it looks like next season, whenever or however that will be, will have the younger generation pitted against the older. I wonder why the virus that Peter nuked shined the God-send sign in his hand when it turned to dust. I thought that was a bit weird. Poor Hiro. How is he going to survive the guilt of what he did to Kensei. He's too good for it not to affect him. Poor Hiro - he lost his flying man. One hilarious last moment between Nathan and Matt - which reminded me of when Angel hitched a ride on the back of Spike's motorcycle. I'm going to miss Nathan - but maybe, as Lola mused, he doesn't die - again. Now, that would be cool.
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Post by Karen on Dec 3, 2007 23:46:14 GMT -5
On the "get rid of Sylar and move on to a new big bad" band wagon. Tim! watch some Buffy! check out how arcs are written and then resolved/! Heroes is more like a comic book in that way - where the bad guys and the good guys keep coming back. Sylar is a creepy cockroach.
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Post by RAKSHA on Dec 4, 2007 0:22:31 GMT -5
I'm not sure what the point was of the inclusion of the Doom Twins in the storyline - were they really necessary? Couldn't Sylar have gotten where he wanted to without them?
I was really surprised that they killed off Nicki. I thought that fans liked the actress - unless Ali Larter found bigger and better things to do.
I just hope that Maya won't be playing house with the 3M's next season. Eugh.
Nathan dead? Waughhhhhh . I wanted to see him fly again.
I imagine that Sylar and Adam will team up next season...
Maybe we'll have seen the last of West? Interesting, as I think someone else has pointed out, that Claire's first love and her father were both flyers.
What happened to Peter's timelost girlfriend?
GAIL
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Post by Lola m on Dec 4, 2007 8:11:28 GMT -5
On the "get rid of Sylar and move on to a new big bad" band wagon. Tim! watch some Buffy! check out how arcs are written and then resolved/! **nods** I can understand becoming fond of a character and not wanting to let him go (boy can I understand that ;D), but then you need to have the character grow and evolve and so on.
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Post by Lola m on Dec 4, 2007 8:12:02 GMT -5
Just what I was thinking. . .. ;D In fact, I was thinking it so hard I'm surprised he didn't read mine. If only, Karen, if only! ;D
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Post by Lola m on Dec 4, 2007 8:17:46 GMT -5
I wondered when Nathan started with all the noble talk if he was going to be the one to buy it. Looked like Noah walking away in the crowd after Nathan was shot. I'm hoping not, but I have a terrible feeling that is was. Because it would be an excellent way to tie him to the company, having him kill Claire's actual daddy. I think you may be right. Perhaps even more fully showcasing the differences between the three "generations" - momma P and Bob and HRG; Peter and Matt and Mohinder; Claire and Elle and Monica and Micah and Molly. The sign is always doing weird things, isn't it? I also wanna know why it showed up on Peter as a quasi tattoo. **nods** He's changed now, like future!Hiro was. I loved that bit!! Yes, I will miss Nathan and his twisty amoral until his brother makes him see the light-ness. Presuming they don't bring him back to life again. ;D
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Post by Lola m on Dec 4, 2007 8:24:18 GMT -5
I'm not sure what the point was of the inclusion of the Doom Twins in the storyline - were they really necessary? Couldn't Sylar have gotten where he wanted to without them? Now that Sylar killed her brother (the one pulling her to the good) and Maya is learning to control her power (thanks to Sylar who pulled her to the bad), I wonder if she'll become some kind of avenging weapon person. If she could learn to direct the black goo to some people in an area and not to others she'd be a phenomenal weapon. Someone the company would probably love to get their hands on. I never discount the idea that the actor in question is moving on, but I also think they were wanting to get back that feeling of "anyone can be the one to die next" and all the plot twistyness. [/color][/quote] Yes! The timelost girlfriend!! Something I've been wondering about all along. If the future that she was in vanishes, what about her? She wasn't a product of it, so . . . Are we talking about alternate realities, so she's still there? Possible futures, so she . . . what, popped out of existance? Pops back to her real time? Is in the now-created future, the one where the virus didn't happen?
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Post by Sue on Dec 4, 2007 8:53:04 GMT -5
Gail-- I wondered the same thing about the girlfriend. I guess it's okay if she's lost in the future as long as there is a "decent" future to be lost in? Other random observations: Minor quibble: apparently Claire is the universal donor and her blood can be given (with typing) to anyone. Imagine the medical possibilities if her blood could be synthesized. I do not approve of burying Kensei. Clearly he's nuts so it's not just for revenge but for protection. But in that case it makes even less sense because he could be dug up. I can see how 400 years of living would make someone nuts, but I'd understand executing him more than burying him alive. (As to killing him, if you beheaded him would he just grow an entirely new body???) I never much liked Nikki, but appreciated that she was used to demonstrate that a normal person can be a hero. Why oh why bring Maya back but kill Nathan. Kill Sylar. Kill him dead.
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Post by Anne, Old S'cubie Cat on Dec 4, 2007 8:58:33 GMT -5
There's a certain dramatic symmetry or something to having Niki die in a fire, saving someone's life. Karmically making up for DL's death, since he was a firefighter. Poor Micah, both his parents died heroes. I assume she died; she doesn't heal, and that was a pretty big kaboom.
I really really wanted Maya to stay dead. Is that bad of me? Also, go away, Sylar, that storyline is getting old.
Karen, I didn't catch who was walking away after Nathan was shot, but I suspect you're right, it's Noah. What better way to protect his family than to remove someone who was about to out all of the heroes? I can't fault his motives, but I sure can fault his actions. Morally grey, indeed. But he's still hot.
I am very concerned about Hiro - that was a horrible thing to do to anyone, even Adam, and Hiro is going to have to live with himself over it. Also, if Adam ever does get out, he's probably going to be insane (even more so), and why am I flashing on Spike's line in "Pangs" about what happens when you don't feed vampires? Anyway, I was really expecting Hiro to behead Adam (I don't think you can regenerate from that) with the handy dandy sword.
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Post by Pixi on Dec 4, 2007 10:37:58 GMT -5
On the "get rid of Sylar and move on to a new big bad" band wagon. Tim! watch some Buffy! check out how arcs are written and then resolved/! Word. Though Sylar did at least provide some good scary moments last year. Adam - not so much. Though he did have an Arvin Sloane finale didn't he? Yikes!
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Post by Pixi on Dec 4, 2007 10:42:01 GMT -5
I wondered when Nathan started with all the noble talk if he was going to be the one to buy it. Looked like Noah walking away in the crowd after Nathan was shot. Momma is a really bad dude. There is not much of the older generation left, but it looks like next season, whenever or however that will be, will have the younger generation pitted against the older. I wonder why the virus that Peter nuked shined the God-send sign in his hand when it turned to dust. I thought that was a bit weird. Poor Hiro. How is he going to survive the guilt of what he did to Kensei. He's too good for it not to affect him. Poor Hiro - he lost his flying man. One hilarious last moment between Nathan and Matt - which reminded me of when Angel hitched a ride on the back of Spike's motorcycle. I'm going to miss Nathan - but maybe, as Lola mused, he doesn't die - again. Now, that would be cool. I agree - Noah was the shooter and as soon as Nathan started his spiel I knew something would prevent him from finishing it as it was taking far too long. I kind of think he has to stay dead this time. They have a new flying guy and with everybody just popping back from being dead, it's going to make the show downright silly. He's dead. No, he's not. Yes, he's dead again. No, alive again. Dead. Alive. Wake me when they chop off his head. Though Kring are you serious? You revive Maya of all people and kill off Nathan? Seriously? Okay then. I thought you HAD been reading the blogs. Niki was pretty much a given and at least got to die a heroes death. I for one have been bored with this character since her intriguing introduction. Hiro, I felt, redeemed his oh so boring Japanese arc in the last few episodes. I loved the flying man and the steely disposal of Adam.
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Post by RAKSHA on Dec 4, 2007 22:28:21 GMT -5
There's a certain dramatic symmetry or something to having Niki die in a fire, saving someone's life. Karmically making up for DL's death, since he was a firefighter. Poor Micah, both his parents died heroes. I assume she died; she doesn't heal, and that was a pretty big kaboom. I really really wanted Maya to stay dead. Is that bad of me? Also, go away, Sylar, that storyline is getting old. Karen, I didn't catch who was walking away after Nathan was shot, but I suspect you're right, it's Noah. What better way to protect his family than to remove someone who was about to out all of the heroes? I can't fault his motives, but I sure can fault his actions. Morally grey, indeed. But he's still hot.I am very concerned about Hiro - that was a horrible thing to do to anyone, even Adam, and Hiro is going to have to live with himself over it. Also, if Adam ever does get out, he's probably going to be insane (even more so), and why am I flashing on Spike's line in "Pangs" about what happens when you don't feed vampires? Anyway, I was really expecting Hiro to behead Adam (I don't think you can regenerate from that) with the handy dandy sword. Maybe, since Micah's parents are now dead, we'll see more of Granny Uhura next season.
Nathan, a fascinating character with ties to various other heroes, is killed and Maya lives? There ain't no justice! I have to wonder if the actress who plays Maya is sleeping with Kring or someone, she's a very pretty girl. Well, maybe not; but why keep her around and kill off an interesting and dynamic character?
I soooooo hope that Maya isn't a future love interest for Mohinder or Matt. Maybe she is, since she has an M-name, perish the thought!
Hiro has a problem with cold-blooded killing; I guess he thought at least Adam couldn't harm anyone else if he was locked in a coffin. I'm sure Adam will get out...Besides, they need Adam for future villainy; I'd rather have him on the scene than Sylar....
GAIL
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Post by Rachael on Dec 5, 2007 0:52:04 GMT -5
Meh. I'm still massively disappointed in the overall level of stupid being displayed by pretty much everyone.
And irritated that the storyline is just gonna stop there. "End of Volume 2", my ass.
And Sylar? Bored now.
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Post by Rachael on Dec 5, 2007 1:02:43 GMT -5
Gail-- I wondered the same thing about the girlfriend. I guess it's okay if she's lost in the future as long as there is a "decent" future to be lost in? Other random observations: Minor quibble: apparently Claire is the universal donor and her blood can be given (with typing) to anyone. Imagine the medical possibilities if her blood could be synthesized. I do not approve of burying Kensei. Clearly he's nuts so it's not just for revenge but for protection. But in that case it makes even less sense because he could be dug up. I can see how 400 years of living would make someone nuts, but I'd understand executing him more than burying him alive. (As to killing him, if you beheaded him would he just grow an entirely new body???) It wasn't okay. I mean, yeah, sure, locked up forever was important, but dead is actually more merciful in Adam's case. And also? It was just...not in character for Hiro. He crossed a line he had never even sauntered toward before that moment. Buried alive is really horrible, and why the hell not just freeze him and cut off his head, dammit?
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Post by Rachael on Dec 5, 2007 1:06:05 GMT -5
I wondered when Nathan started with all the noble talk if he was going to be the one to buy it. Looked like Noah walking away in the crowd after Nathan was shot. Momma is a really bad dude. There is not much of the older generation left, but it looks like next season, whenever or however that will be, will have the younger generation pitted against the older. I wonder why the virus that Peter nuked shined the God-send sign in his hand when it turned to dust. I thought that was a bit weird. Poor Hiro. How is he going to survive the guilt of what he did to Kensei. He's too good for it not to affect him. Poor Hiro - he lost his flying man. One hilarious last moment between Nathan and Matt - which reminded me of when Angel hitched a ride on the back of Spike's motorcycle. I'm going to miss Nathan - but maybe, as Lola mused, he doesn't die - again. Now, that would be cool. I agree - Noah was the shooter and as soon as Nathan started his spiel I knew something would prevent him from finishing it as it was taking far too long. Yeah, I actually said, "Oh, good. Yammer on long enough for someone to shoot you." And then, BANG! And then I said, "I was actually hoping someone would shoot him, the speech was so bad." Which was mean of me, I know.
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