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Post by Queen E on Aug 14, 2005 19:53:09 GMT -5
Open for discussion
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Post by Lola m on Aug 14, 2005 20:15:33 GMT -5
Week seven . . . the fourth most requested ep . . . the excitement builds . . .
Yes! It’s time to announce this week’s Sizzlin’ Angel Episode Fesitval winner!
Destiny Hey. I'm. . . I can feel. I'm back, Charlie boy! There's only supposed to be one candidate for the vampire with the soul hero part in the big show. He won the fight, Gunn... for the first time. Doesn't matter if the cup is real or not. What if it means that... I'm not the one?
Go forth, dear s’cubies and celebrate! Discuss, share pictures, remember favorite moments, quote, re-watch.And don’t forget Nan’s wonderful analysis of Destiny, located here: www.soulfulspike.com/nanreviews/nanangel_5-8.html Or the s’cubie discussion of that analysis, located here: scubiefan.proboards48.com/index.cgi?board=review&action=display&thread=1069192177
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Post by Lola m on Aug 16, 2005 7:14:25 GMT -5
So does anyone else get out this episode on tape or DVD sometimes, just to watch the kick-ass fight between Angel and Spike? ;D
'Cuz I just think it's damn cool to watch the two of them battle it out, really fighting and getting mean, but at the same time neither one is gonna actually dust the other.
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Post by Onjel on Aug 16, 2005 13:30:08 GMT -5
So does anyone else get out this episode on tape or DVD sometimes, just to watch the kick-ass fight between Angel and Spike? ;D 'Cuz I just think it's damn cool to watch the two of them battle it out, really fighting and getting mean, but at the same time neither one is gonna actually dust the other. Aside from the reveal that the cup is filled with Mountain Dew, that is my favorite part of the episode! I also like Spike tearing off in one of Angel's cars with the Ramones blaring on the stereo! ;D
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Post by Karen on Aug 16, 2005 16:20:14 GMT -5
So does anyone else get out this episode on tape or DVD sometimes, just to watch the kick-ass fight between Angel and Spike? ;D 'Cuz I just think it's damn cool to watch the two of them battle it out, really fighting and getting mean, but at the same time neither one is gonna actually dust the other. It's my favorite fight scene. I loved the snark and the flashbacks. The father/son relationship between Spike and Angel and the competition that was always between them I'm anxious to see what made #1 for Angel. Probably 'Not Fade Away'.
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Post by Lola m on Aug 17, 2005 7:29:10 GMT -5
So does anyone else get out this episode on tape or DVD sometimes, just to watch the kick-ass fight between Angel and Spike? ;D 'Cuz I just think it's damn cool to watch the two of them battle it out, really fighting and getting mean, but at the same time neither one is gonna actually dust the other. It's my favorite fight scene. I loved the snark and the flashbacks. The father/son relationship between Spike and Angel and the competition that was always between them I'm anxious to see what made #1 for Angel. Probably 'Not Fade Away'. I think we've still got pleny of surprises along the way to the first ep of each of the shows. I know when I counted up the final results, I was both surprised . . . and yet not, when I step back and look at it.
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Post by Lola m on Aug 17, 2005 7:42:21 GMT -5
Ya know, comparing this episode to NFA - and following the trail between them, something strikes me.
I've been thinking about all the different ways that the Shanshu is explored in season 5. Really, they bring it up so many times, in so many ways - wondering if it's for Angel or Spike, is it a reward, should one be striving for a reward, does concentrating on the reward distract you from a larger picture, warnings from #5 and Cordy and Lindsey about losing sight of what is important, dreams about it coming true, etc.
When I look back on the whole season, you can see it all as one big metaphor for . . . losing and then getting back to your real purpose. We don't just see Angel follow this - in some way, most of the characters do this season. Gunn being the most obvious, but I think we see it in Spike too. Wesley, in a odd, slightly warped kind of way. Cordy returns to point things out and brings reminders of real Doyle to hammer the point home even more. Even faux Doyle serves to remind us of Angel's original mission. Heck. I could make an argument for Lindsey - especially if you figure his original purpose when we first meet him.
So how perfect that what starts with a desperate fight to get the Shanshu, ends with a simple signature and the understanding that it is not the real thing to be fighting for, after all.
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Post by Queen E on Aug 17, 2005 10:22:02 GMT -5
Ya know, comparing this episode to NFA - and following the trail between them, something strikes me. I've been thinking about all the different ways that the Shanshu is explored in season 5. Really, they bring it up so many times, in so many ways - wondering if it's for Angel or Spike, is it a reward, should one be striving for a reward, does concentrating on the reward distract you from a larger picture, warnings from #5 and Cordy and Lindsey about losing sight of what is important, dreams about it coming true, etc. When I look back on the whole season, you can see it all as one big metaphor for . . . losing and then getting back to your real purpose. We don't just see Angel follow this - in some way, most of the characters do this season. Gunn being the most obvious, but I think we see it in Spike too. Wesley, in a odd, slightly warped kind of way. Cordy returns to point things out and brings reminders of real Doyle to hammer the point home even more. Even faux Doyle serves to remind us of Angel's original mission. Heck. I could make an argument for Lindsey - especially if you figure his original purpose when we first meet him. So how perfect that what starts with a desperate fight to get the Shanshu, ends with a simple signature and the understanding that it is not the real thing to be fighting for, after all. *pets Lola's pretty pretty brain* I think, too, that it exposes the dark side of purpose as well. Lindsey had a purpose to destroy Angel is the most obvious example. But Harmony desperately fought to find her purpose, and clung to the person who made her feel special: Hamilton.
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