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Post by Patti - S'cubie Cutie on Aug 6, 2003 23:08:12 GMT -5
Rob . . .glad to hear there are 2 more chapters for me to enjoy. I have thoroughly been engrossed in this story since the beginning and I love your characterization of Spike. About broke my heart and brought tears to my eyes when Inge was beating the shit out of him and broke his back . . . but he got his by taking a chunk out of her leg ;D The last 2 chapters were action packed and I could see the fight scenes in my mind and felt every punch and crack of bone. Good job, just doesn't express it enough . . . and am now at a loss for words as to how much I've thoroughly enjoyed this story. One fact though, when totally complete, it's getting printed off and put in my binder of stories I'll keep for re-reading. Betsy, you put into words exactly how I feel reading Triangles. And Chapter 28....I can't say enough either. I sobbed my way through a great deal of it...and I could see it so clearly.
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Post by Rob on Aug 6, 2003 23:09:42 GMT -5
Rob . . .glad to hear there are 2 more chapters for me to enjoy. I have thoroughly been engrossed in this story since the beginning and I love your characterization of Spike. About broke my heart and brought tears to my eyes when Inge was beating the shit out of him and broke his back . . . but he got his by taking a chunk out of her leg ;D The last 2 chapters were action packed and I could see the fight scenes in my mind and felt every punch and crack of bone. Good job, just doesn't express it enough . . . and am now at a loss for words as to how much I've thoroughly enjoyed this story. One fact though, when totally complete, it's getting printed off and put in my binder of stories I'll keep for re-reading. I was about to go to bed, but I saw this and had to respond. The fact that you're willing to read it again is an honor, especially coming from someone who reads as much fanfic as I know you do, Betsy. Triangles, in fact, works much better as a complete story, in my opinion...there are things that go on in early chapters that can easily be forgotten when they're released in serial format, and they play a crucial role in the climax. I actually felt the need to do some flashbacks that may not have been necessary if not for that format...but it's hard to tell. The show itself did flashbacks in big moments too, so... The first two stories were intentionally designed as serialized action stories with some character thrown in, because I figured I could do that...it's the type of books I read anyway. This one is just the opposite: a very character-driven story with more depth than I'd ever attempted before...with some action thrown in for those who liked that stuff. As it turns out, the action sequences are much more detailed and graphic than anything I've done--not to mention considerably longer. God knows how that happened. They are a ton of work to write...but I confess I'm pretty proud of them. Now I really need to go to bed. I'll be posting with a lot more specifics once all thirty chapters are available to everyone...which should be soon. Again...thanks so much. Your support means a lot to me.
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Post by Laura on Aug 7, 2003 10:47:43 GMT -5
Aw, Rob!
(But those are happy tears.)
I just finished chapters 28 & 29. You had me weeping at the ends of both chapters. I loved them! I loved the way you built up to the big moments in each of them -- I loved the way I gasped when I figured out what was going to be happening in each chapter -- which isn't to say I thought you were going for the trite, or the cliched -- more that the huge surprises that were being revealed were the most natural thing in the world, even though we NEVER would have seen them coming.
Once you're done, can you/"Hurricane Mitch" save the three stories as a .pdf file? I don't have that capability myself, but I've seen some good fanfic on the authors' own sites that are in .pdf format -- it makes the stories look very "professional," and is a very easy way to print documents on both sides of the paper. That way, those of us who'd want to keep hard copies would have "book-like" quality pages. Just a thought.
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Post by Betsy on Aug 7, 2003 23:34:30 GMT -5
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Post by SpringSummers on Aug 8, 2003 6:10:41 GMT -5
Rob - what a sweet ending.
And not only did you make Spike pretty again, you put him in Armani! I had such a fun time picturing that.
I hope you have had as much fun writing this tale.
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Post by Patti - S'cubie Cutie on Aug 10, 2003 0:36:18 GMT -5
Rob, I second third and fourth every word of praise for the lway you ended Triangles. For the honesty and pain, for the love and drama and the tension and the wonderful release of the final chapter. For Spike and Angel in Armani, and Cordelia helping Faith get ready, for the tears streaming down my face as Faith thought about being Xanders's....ff....ffforever.....and I'm all choked up again.... *wipes her tears away*
I'm honored to know you Rob, and like Betsy I raise my hand and ask 'may we have more please?'
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Post by Rob on Aug 11, 2003 22:26:51 GMT -5
Aw, Rob!
(But those are happy tears.)
I just finished chapters 28 & 29. You had me weeping at the ends of both chapters. I loved them! I loved the way you built up to the big moments in each of them -- I loved the way I gasped when I figured out what was going to be happening in each chapter -- which isn't to say I thought you were going for the trite, or the cliched -- more that the huge surprises that were being revealed were the most natural thing in the world, even though we NEVER would have seen them coming.
Once you're done, can you/"Hurricane Mitch" save the three stories as a .pdf file? I don't have that capability myself, but I've seen some good fanfic on the authors' own sites that are in .pdf format -- it makes the stories look very "professional," and is a very easy way to print documents on both sides of the paper. That way, those of us who'd want to keep hard copies would have "book-like" quality pages. Just a thought. If I knew how to set up a .pdf file I'd be happy to do it for you. Unfortunately I've never even heard of it. I'm sorry. I'll see if the Hurricane knows how, though. Thanks for all your nice comments, Laura. You're the coolest lawyer I know. The buildup to the big moments was intentional, but it's very rewarding to find that the surprises worked when I tried to pull them off. Genuine surprises are not easy to do, though in the Buffyverse they can be simpler because the show really has no creative limits. If you wanna make a hurricane, do it. It's not like I have a special effects budget to worry about. That's what makes it fun. One of my personal favorite sequences in Triangles involves Amy's appearance out of left field in Chapter 28, which was my attempt at making the reader frown and say "who the Hell is this?"...then leading to one of those "Of course! Who else COULD it be?" kind of moments. I love it when stories surprise me like that...so I tried to do some of that here. For what it's worth, I think the Amy sequence worked best in that way.
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Post by Rob on Aug 11, 2003 22:33:14 GMT -5
Just finished the final chapter of this wonderful story and had tears streaming down my face. Rob, you just can't end the story here . . . I want more. THere's more stories to finish here. Please get the inspiration and continue this one, please I admit that there's room for more things to happen...and that was intentional. My problem is Triangles was sort of a magical thing. It sort of formed in my head out of nowhere...and I can't help wondering if it was a one time occurrence. If I write a fourth installment, it'll have to be at least this good in my head before I even post it, and I'm not sure I have another one like this in me. Still...the idea of further exploring these relationships further is appealing. We'll see, I guess. I'm honored that you were so moved by the story. Confession time: I cried a couple of times writing it. Some of this story was deeply personal to me. I think that's why it resonated so much with so many. So thank you for all your wonderful support and feedback, Betsy. You're the tops.
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Post by Rob on Aug 11, 2003 22:47:11 GMT -5
Rob - what a sweet ending. And not only did you make Spike pretty again, you put him in Armani! I had such a fun time picturing that. I hope you have had as much fun writing this tale. There was a little bit of everything in this story. Indeed, some of the early Disney chapters were a lot of fun. Skewering the parks is a popular thing for Central Florida residents like myself to engage in. The Spike-Angel naked in Buffy's hotel room sequence was a blast to write. The wedding was pretty emotional to me at times...but in a positive way. The Cordy-Faith sequences are a lot of fun because those characters are so clever. They snap back and forth like a comedy team. Much like Xander and Faith, actually. On the other hand, a great deal of this was literally painful for me...this is a dark tale indeed at times. The character of Martineau, for example, seems a bit cartoonish...but there's nothing cartoonish or funny about his hatred toward young girls, and the horrific things that he did as a result. There's nothing particularly happy or fun regarding Hans and Inge either. They are a terribly sad story, really. A cautionary tale of sorts. There is a touch of very sloppy and inaccurate foreshadowing regarding those two, by the way. Not long after Hans learns that she's been turned, he's dispatched to keep young Rupert in line; Katzenbach subsequently finds Giles in the library--reading "Romeo and Juliet." The circumstances aren't at all the same, of course, but it was a clumsy attempt at foreshadowing Inge's self-staking at the end shortly following Katzenbach's sacrifice of what remained of his life for her. Anyway, I got a little windy there. Thanks for the nice compliment, Spring. I'm glad you liked it.
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Post by Rob on Aug 11, 2003 22:51:55 GMT -5
Rob, I second third and fourth every word of praise for the lway you ended Triangles. For the honesty and pain, for the love and drama and the tension and the wonderful release of the final chapter. For Spike and Angel in Armani, and Cordelia helping Faith get ready, for the tears streaming down my face as Faith thought about being Xanders's....ff....ffforever.....and I'm all choked up again.... *wipes her tears away* I'm honored to know you Rob, and like Betsy I raise my hand and ask 'may we have more please?' I don't know what to say to this other than thanks so much. You meant more to this story thatn you can possibly understand. I wish I could promise you that more is coming...but I can't. I really don't know if I have something in me that measures up to the depth and complexity of Triangles...but I'll be thinking about it. Maybe the magic will happen one more time.
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Post by Patti - S'cubie Cutie on Aug 11, 2003 23:26:59 GMT -5
I don't know what to say to this other than thanks so much. You meant more to this story thatn you can possibly understand. I wish I could promise you that more is coming...but I can't. I really don't know if I have something in me that measures up to the depth and complexity of Triangles...but I'll be thinking about it. Maybe the magic will happen one more time. You're online! Did you get your fix downloaded? I mean, your computer fix downloaded..
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Post by Rob on Aug 11, 2003 23:34:50 GMT -5
You're online! Did you get your fix downloaded? I mean, your computer fix downloaded.. I really don't know. For whatever reason, it's working right now. Maybe I finally downloaded something that works. I'm not going to question it...I'll just enjoy it while it lasts.
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Post by Patti - S'cubie Cutie on Aug 11, 2003 23:52:14 GMT -5
I really don't know. For whatever reason, it's working right now. Maybe I finally downloaded something that works. I'm not going to question it...I'll just enjoy it while it lasts. So now that you're here....I'm going to bed. Not because of, inspite of. I got up absolutely early for me this morning (before 10am) and I'm about to fall asleep at the computer. so, I hope its all fixed and we get a chance to talk and get caught up tomorrow, ok? and...he's gone too. LOL.
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Post by Lola m on Feb 26, 2004 21:17:31 GMT -5
Rob - Working my way through the T's. Just finished Triangles. Man! Exciting action scenes, fabulous plot arc, characters and emotions that really rang true. You got the voices down - I feel especially well with Faith, Xander and Dawn. I was enjoying Truth and Truths, but this one just hit all the marks.
You should write for Joss. Really.
Lola
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Post by SpringSummers on Feb 27, 2004 8:22:00 GMT -5
I liked the Willow/Buffy interchange, and continuing tension between Faith & Xander.
Really nice job, Rob, on communicating a flashy, freeze-frame feel to the last scenes - not an easy thing to accomplish on paper. But I'm mystified (in a good way) as to where we are going with it.
Keep up the good work!
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