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Post by Dalton on Jun 22, 2003 20:06:01 GMT -5
"It would be interesting to see them address the *hotness of Spike* openly. As far as I know, the only time any of the characters have ever referred to his looks is when Buffy is describing him to the door guy at the club when she's trying to track him down in "Never Leave Me". The characters have applied plenty of adjectives to him over the years, mostly pejorative, but never, or only rarely, openly acknowedged his hot appearance. Buffy's looks have been referred to by a number of characters, as have Cordy's and Willow and Anya of course. It makes sense that the characters have noticed his looks and formed opinions about them, but all we usually heard about is his evil, obsessive ways. I guess we got a taste of Spike worship by a character in Crush but that was a long time ago. I am looking forward to watching Andrew following Spike around with his tongue hanging out. Tee Hee."
Andrew definitely picked up on the hotness of Spike in Entropy. I wondered about him and Dawn. He could be bi, after all. (Even if Willow can't be bi after we witnessed her being attracted to and in love with guys for three years.)
But speaking of people in the show who have mentioned Spike's looks. As I recall, in season five, when Xander thought Buffy was having sex with Spike, he said that he understood because Spike was "kind of compact, but well muscled."
And actually, Buffy called him a hottie in Lessons too. When the zombie boy said he wanted to date Dawn, Buffy said, you have the wrong sister, I'm the one who dates dead guys, and they were hotties. It seems like this season she's finally able to admit out loud that she thinks he attractive, even if it's only to dead people she doesn't know.
Julie A
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Post by Dalton on Jun 22, 2003 20:09:31 GMT -5
"And I hate to say this . . . but don't you think he might get chained in the basement again? I mean, no one, including Spike, knows whether or not the First's ability to "trigger" him still exists."
I think he's just gotta be in control of himself again... and I hope that we find out in some definitive way if this is true or not.
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Post by Dalton on Jun 22, 2003 20:10:43 GMT -5
"I'll keep you posted if I find anything he's in. I don't think he has a lot to look for other than a few guest appearances. I'm really surprised he doesn't have more movies under his belt, but I heard he is pretty devoted to his band."
Thanks! Now him in his band is definitely something I'd like to see too.
Julie A
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Post by Dalton on Jun 22, 2003 20:13:09 GMT -5
Deborah said in post #5 ,"Found that by the time I'd finished writing this and posting it, I'd been left behind on Part 3..."
I'm sorry if I moved the topic area too abruptly. I am open to suggestions on protocols for moving the site. This is meant to be fun for all, and I don't want anyone to feel I pulled the plug too fast. My yardstick for moving is when we sink way out of sight on the Miscellaneous Board.
Sometimes I wish that the Miscellaneous Board was organized so the thread with the newest post would automatically rise to the top, but I think we asked about that already. So the solution was Parts 1,2,3...
I apologize, Deborah. I hope you didn't suffer any worse feelings than surprise, but I don't like for that to happen either.
Open to protocol ideas, and if anyone thinks we need it.
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Post by Dalton on Jun 22, 2003 20:15:09 GMT -5
Rusty said in post #13, "Just to be fair I think it was Spring and her purely academic interest in Nosferophysiology that started our research. Ebulgence. Excellent word! You get the chair in Linguistics at the Von Helsing Institute for the Study of Nosferology."
Me! Me! I want to be Chair of Anatomy and Physiology. Intense field research into Ebulgence a specialty of the department.
"Vampires in the Mist". Such a sophisticated and elegant analogy for our nosferpornologic investigations. A lovely, high-minded vision for us to carry with us as we fry our pause buttons
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Post by Dalton on Jun 22, 2003 20:19:42 GMT -5
Last season, James Marsters guest starred on Gene Roddenberry's Andromeda (Warner Bros channel) in a role that the writers are trying to get him to reprise this year. It was actually the first time I'd ever seen him. I found out later that he was a regular on Buffy and that's how I got hooked. As far as I'm concerned, and I admit to being not one scintilla impartial, he transfers beautifully into other roles, especially ones where he is allowed to look like himself. He actually got the Andromeda role because one of the writers (female) suggested him for the role, saying "Oooh, he's hot!" He was on hiatus from Buffy when he did the episode. You might like his hair because it had grown halfway out with dark roots and was left pretty curly. And what a six pack (sadly gone for now...) He walked into his first scene and I thought, "Now who is THIS? WOW!" If I catch wind that he is going to be on Andromeda again, I'll try to alert everybody here. His character is Charlemagne Bolivar. A summary of the episode he was in is at: www.slipstreamweb.com/reviews/episodes/into_the_labyrinth.shtmlA bit of backstory is that Kevin Sorbo's character, Dylan, boinked Charlemagne's affianced as Dylan was bringing her from her planet to Charlemagne's. Alexandra K.
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Post by Dalton on Jun 22, 2003 20:21:31 GMT -5
"Ebulgence. Excellent word! You get the chair in Linguistics at the Von Helsing Institute for the Study of Nosferology."
Thanks, Rusty! I think one of my first duties will be to recommend a study of not just the written and spoken word, but how Vampires communicate in *every* detail. My first object of intense research will be Spike's mouth.
Miss Pamela Linguistics Chair, VHISN
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Post by Dalton on Jun 22, 2003 20:23:43 GMT -5
That will also be a joint study undertaken by the Von Helsing Institute for the Study of Nosferology Sociology and Anthropoloy Depts. to learn just what it is that has turned intelligent, professional, and otherwise respectable mature adults into hormonally-charged obsessors over a fictional vampire.
And I don't think we can blame this on Band Candy!
1/11/2003 Miss Pamela
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Post by Dalton on Jun 22, 2003 20:24:45 GMT -5
Thanks for giving me credit for starting the bulge research, Rusty – but I don’t do it for the glory, I do it for the cause. I happily volunteer for bulge-spotting duty and any and all field work that might be needed.
Speaking of bulges . . I gotta say, I am liking what I’m seeing. Not at all disappointing. I am going to have to find something in that “bulgy” scene to use as a standard so I can figure out the scale and make proper measurements. I wanted to do it in the flesh, but ME won’t return my calls! Piffle!! Those artistic types have no respect for importance of scientific research.
On the no-underwear thing – I had noticed that Spike doesn’t wear underwear. I mean we see him put his pants on right over his naked body several different times. Unlike Buffy, he never hunts for his underwear
I remember reading somewhere that Joss uses real quirks and facts about his actors for the characters sometimes. So maybe James’ preference for personal freedom translated into the same for Spike.
I know James has mentioned in interviews that “Fool For Love” was uncomfortably close to home, because he had been an outsider artistic type as a young man.
I wonder if mirroring real life is the reason Spike’s age has been reported several different ways on the show . . .
Talk of underwear reminds me, one of my favorite moments is when Buffy is being a horrible, condescending bitch to Spike the “morning-after”, telling him he’s just convenient, etc. . . . and he casually pulls her underwear out of his back pocket. That whole scene is one of the most brutal, nasty scenes they’ve ever done, but it was written and acted so beautifully. I loved it. It’s a favorite scene of mine but I’ve never taken the time to really dissect it – I may give it a try.
Edited By Spring Summers at 1/11/2003 9:48:00 AM.
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Post by Dalton on Jun 22, 2003 20:26:46 GMT -5
Spring said in post #24, "I mean we see him put his pants on right over his naked body several different times." --- I wish.
Spike seems to have a thing about underwear, just not his own. That's the second pair of Buffy's panties that Spike corralled. When he was caught by Riley smelling Buffy's sweater in her room, on the way out he copped a pair of her undies. But those were probably clean, without the all-important scent he was enjoying from the sweater. I think he was much luckier with the undies the second time, in "Wrecked". I'd bet those pair left with him and were enjoyed whenever Buffy wasn't around. As vampires have an elevated sense of smell, I guess he was often in happyland even by himself.
I believe the olfactory sense comes under the Anatomy and Physiology Department. This will be delicate research but someone has to do it.
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Post by Dalton on Jun 22, 2003 20:29:57 GMT -5
Miss Pamela said in post #23, "That will also be a joint study undertaken by the Von Helsing Institute for the Study of Nosferology Sociology and Anthropoloy Depts. to learn just what it is that has turned intelligent, professional, and otherwise respectable mature adults into hormonally-charged obsessors over a fictional vampire."
Yes, I would really like to know what causes this abnormality. Mind you, I don't want to be cured. I believe I have the rarer form - Marsteritis. I just want to know why/how I succumbed. I know it came on me quickly, as I watched an episode of Andromeda, so it can't be the commoner Spikophilia that most of the distaff populace suffers from (although unfortunately I have both forms now.) It can't be windborn or waterborn. My theory is that it is transmitted electromagnetically through infected television screens. It is so lucky for me to have this support group in my affliction.
Alexandra K.
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Post by Dalton on Jun 22, 2003 20:46:08 GMT -5
So far the VHISN has two duly awarded Chairs.
Nosferoliguistics: Miss Pamela
Nosferoanatomy & Physiology: Alexandra K.
I would also like to point out that the first(and only),recipient of the Von Helsing Inst. Award for Creative Use of Language and Measuring Tape, Spring Summers, is long overdue for a faculty appointment. In the "me! me!" tradition of the Institute, I feel it only fair that she either create her own position, or accept suggestions from existing faculty. I also feel I have been remiss in not recognising her ground-breaking success in the creative perversion of the english language by offering a Chair immediately. I'm afraid both the Linguistic and Physiology Chairs are greatly prized and hope my impetuousness has not caused hurt feelings.
I hope that we can come up with something suitably ebulgent for Spring. I would also like to entertain suggestions for myself. (Modesty prevents me... blah, blah, blah, etc).
I would further like to suggest that we adopt as the Institue's motto the phrase so recently coined by Miss Pamela: "Indulgence in Ebulgence", thereby suitably lowering the level of our credibility, while still expecting our studies to rise to great heights of academic achievement.
I know there are other worthy candidates out there whose work will certainly qualify them for a faculty position, or at least an award for academic excellence. Patience. We'll get to you.
Rusty Goode
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Post by Dalton on Jun 22, 2003 20:47:11 GMT -5
Better Spikeophilia than Spikeophobia. I hear that causes a nasty rash and a particularly focused form of Editorial Tourette's Syndrome.
I think you will find that your disorder is more common than West Nile Virus, and much more popular
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Post by Dalton on Jun 22, 2003 20:47:57 GMT -5
Hi Spring. I think this confirms that your Chair at the VNISN has to have something to do with the ever-expanding field of Ebulgence. However, Nosferoebulgeology is quite a mouthful. Please let us know what title you feel best sums up your prefered field of study so that we can have it engraved on your nameplate
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Post by Dalton on Jun 22, 2003 20:48:39 GMT -5
. Rusty said in post #23, "Better Spikeophilia than Spikeophobia. I hear that causes a nasty rash and a particularly focused form of Editorial Tourette's Syndrome."
I WISH Spikeophobia caused a nasty rash; we would all be immune. And where does the rash appear, hmmm? (a rhetorical question best left to the imagination)
I hope the Scoopme editors have a sense of humor - either that or no access to a medical dictionary (grin).
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