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Post by Dalton on Jun 27, 2003 20:51:13 GMT -5
I think it takes a period of time (2 to 3 days) for the effect of the sire's blood to reanimate the individual who's been turned. Enough time for the family to assume their loved one was truly dead and bury them. Thus vamps rising from the grave. Buffy wouldn't be hanging out in the cemetery so much if that wasn't where new vamps appeared.You probably don't have to bury a sired vamp, but you might have to keep it in a cool dark place. Dracula always had to sleep on the dirt of his homeland, so there's some dirt thing happening as well.
I think in Dracula the victim had to be bitten three times to turn them. If that also works Harmony could have been bitten by three separate vamps at graduation which drained and turned her without drinking from any of them. (I don't think we've ever found out who her supposed sire was).
I think the difference between drinking and draining is just that. Drinking implies having a nice taste for hemato‑ebulgent purposes. Draining implies a savage feeding or loss of control.
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Post by Dalton on Jun 27, 2003 20:57:48 GMT -5
LOL... Miss Pamela, it took me a minute to catch that double entendre... But that is probably because to me "mastiquer" is a word I use all the time in French.
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Post by Dalton on Jun 27, 2003 21:54:54 GMT -5
I like Spike. One of the articles I read recently said Spike had the cheekbones of a god. Personally, I thought he had the shoulders of a god. And his butt didn't look too bad either.
My 21 year old daughter watches Buffy with me, but I dare not talk too much of Spike. She already thinks I'm nuts.
I found noisome. New word. Some of my students are noisome. The word that sent me to the dictionary was avuncular. At first I thought it might have to do with the heart, after finding the definition, I guess it somewhat did.
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Post by Dalton on Jun 27, 2003 21:55:50 GMT -5
Rusty, I like your definition of drinking vs. draining  I also think the keeping of new‑sired vamps in a cool dark place is a good point. I guess they're like seeds, they need those conditions to germinate. Hey, I just had a thought... When Spike moved in with Xander, he was placed in a closet. ("I know it looks like a closet, but it's a room now") I thought at the time... great idea, keep the vampire in the only room in the apartment that has no windows. Brilliant. Closet = no windows = no pesky sunlight flambéing our favourite vampire during his beauty sleep. (That would definitely not do!) Which leads me to my question. When Anya and later Buffy went in to visit Spike, that was an awfully big closet, and, if I'm not mistaken, it had windows. Can anyone support or deny this? |
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Post by Dalton on Jun 27, 2003 21:56:29 GMT -5
Please stay and feel welcome. We have this long thread of silliness going about being faculty at the Von Helsing Institute for the Study of Nosferology.Since it started with a conversation about the bulge in Spikes pants we have some very verbose serial puns going. If you can put up with us stay and have at it.
Edited By Rusty Goode at 1/14/2003 11:02:00 PM.
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Post by Dalton on Jun 27, 2003 22:12:18 GMT -5
Lee said "I like Spike. One of the articles I read recently said Spike had the cheekbones of a god. Personally, I thought he had the shoulders of a god. And his butt didn't look too bad either." I think she'll fit right in. "My 21 year old daughter watches Buffy with me, but I dare not talk too much of Spike. She already thinks I'm nuts." Yet again, I think she'll fit right in. "I found noisome. New word. Some of my students are noisome. The word that sent me to the dictionary was avuncular. At first I thought it might have to do with the heart, after finding the definition, I guess it somewhat did." That just sent me reaching to my right, past my French, French/English, and Science and Technology dictionaries for my good old Collins dictionary. Uncle‑like eh? Not quite what I thought it meant. Thanks, my second new word of the day.
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Post by Dalton on Jun 27, 2003 22:12:54 GMT -5
This had me LOL. Today, I've had people asking me why I'm smiling and what is so funny. One other individual I work with, stuck his head in and told me I had better get off those boards. I told him to go away. If I don't get busy soon, I'll be bringing work home.
The dirt thing, I wondered about that. Dracula needs dirt? But nobody else seems to.
I'm going to bed and think about dirt.
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Post by Dalton on Jun 27, 2003 22:13:43 GMT -5
Right, Dracula did have dirt in BtVS too didn't he? I had forgotten that.
Which reminds me, of all the vampire lore quoted of the Buffyboard, I have never, not once, heard a reference to Chelsea Quinn Yarbro's Comte de Saint‑Germain. The first book of her's I read, Hôtel Transylvania, really captured me with it's preface about a real life Comte de Saint‑Germain who was the talk of Paris in the 19th century. He was said to be an alchemist, and he could supposedly write a letter with one hand and simultaneously transcribe it with the other. People also claim to have spoken with him long after he was supposed to have died.
In any event, in Chelsea Quinn Yarbro's world, vampires use the soil of their native land to restore them. They have some stored under their beds, and in the lining of their shoes. They are unable to cross running water without soil in their shoes. They can even take limited amounts of sunlight provided they have their 'healing earth'.
In order to produce a vampire you have to have drunk from a victim multiple times, or they have to have drunk yours (The Bram Stoker priciple at work I suppose.) However, vampires don't actually feed on the blood, they feed on the emotion carried by the blood. (i.e. they could not survive indefinitely on rats.) The most satisfying meal would contain intense emotion such as terror or lust.
As to "getting" it up without a heartbeat, in CQY's world it doesn't happen. St‑Germain just has expressive hands.
I found it interesting that Saint‑Germain isn't your typical tall, dashing hero. He is actually short, because people actually used to be shorter in the olden days. (and I mean old, he predates the pyramids.)
Altogether, a very interesting read, but a warning, these tend to be very dark. We see the Bonfire of the Vanities in one book, the bubonic plague in another. The vampire is the hero, it is the humans who are the monsters.
Oh, must pull my cookies out of the oven,
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Post by Dalton on Jun 27, 2003 22:14:38 GMT -5
I just had to add my other favourite type of words, the ones with wierd Greek plurals.
platipi, hippopotami, cacti, nosferati (?)...
Also the ones with unexpected singulars
one die, two dice; one bacterium, two bacteria; one datum two data (most oft made mistake in engineering and science papers, the data indicate, not the data indicates.)
Now that I've got that silliness out of my system, I'm off to bed.
Watergal =^..^=
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Post by Dalton on Jun 27, 2003 22:15:23 GMT -5
Bored due to lack of buffy I was just running the channels on my TV and found a movie made in 1976 called "The Last Hard Men". I didn't know they'd stopped making them in '76. Thank God JM is 40!
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Post by Dalton on Jun 27, 2003 23:50:28 GMT -5
Miss Pamela, I know the definition of "masticating", but I thought of a word and I defer to you to offically define it: "Marsterscating".
LEE: Yes, you fit right in! I often watch BtVS with my teenage son, so I struggle to keep my eyeballs in my sockets and the drool off my chin ‑ I know of what you speak.
Spring Summers
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Post by Dalton on Jun 28, 2003 0:35:53 GMT -5
They stopped making hard men in 76? Then thank God not just that JM is 40, but also that *I* am 40!!
I must look into this for my ebulgeometrics studies, sounds significant.
Spring Summers
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Post by Dalton on Jun 28, 2003 0:37:46 GMT -5
I can think of a definition for Mastercating, but as this site is rated PG, I will refrain from defining it for you. I believe you, my fellow Spikey‑boardsters, are sufficiently dirty minded to come up with your own definitions.
And with that, I'm off to sleep, and I really mean it this time...
Watergal =^..^=
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Post by Dalton on Jun 28, 2003 0:43:24 GMT -5
Okay, so that's why I'm having a hard time finding the right guy, I was born just as they stopped making them. (Or, wait a minute, that must mean that guys my age are the last of their kind, I had better get out there and take a statistical sample. I'll get back to you with my conclusions.)
Watergal =^..^=
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Post by Dalton on Jun 28, 2003 0:44:56 GMT -5
Lee, you said the magic words!! "I like Spike." Visualize me giving you a high five. And major extra points for looking at his butt. I'm definitely an aficionado of butts. One of the reasons I married my husband. I was away from the board for awhile because I dragged my dear husband to the TV to watch my tape of "Showtime". He was getting behind and I needed him to catch up so I could bend his ear about the show. He is not really that interested in the show, but when he has to watch it (because he knows it's important to me), he enjoys it okay. I too have a 21 year old, a son. And since he is a fanatic about Star Wars he doesn't make fun of me in my obsession. Although I am learning way more than I need to know about Star Wars. I came back to see that we somehow made Lee a bit apprehensive about our silliness. Please stay, Lee. You have just the right aptitude for our group. And attitude. We always think the more the merrier. New ideas and observations are always welcome. Here are a couple of pics we found: www.ladymaigrey.com/seasontwo/labyrinth/062.jpgwww.angelicview.com/tbcs/spike/jamesshape2.jpgHope you enjoy them! |
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