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Post by Lola m on Apr 13, 2006 7:37:14 GMT -5
Watched last week's episode immediatly before this week's, and the disjunction was not a good thing. Um. Yeah. I can see that that really wouldn't work well.
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Post by Lola m on Apr 13, 2006 7:38:39 GMT -5
If it was someone we've seen before, I give it less than 24 hours and somone on the internets has screencapped it and posted it. That faith healer was SCORPIUS!!!!!!!!!!! Without the cool leather, the cooling units, and the scarran physiology makeup. Wayne Pygram. Hasn't been on the show before. I was really impressed that he was going to return Bernard's donation: that, and the look of "whoa, holy shit!" on his face convinced me that he's a real deal. In this universe, at least. But still, AAAAAH!!! Scorpy the faith-healer!!!!! I kept expecting to see him install her in an Aurora chair.... O . . . . M . . . . G!!!!!!!!! That's just . . . unsettling.
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Post by Lola m on Apr 13, 2006 7:41:25 GMT -5
S.O.S. - same old shit stuff Rose/Bernard have very different philosophies. He's a dentist. Did we know that before? Locke is getting pissed off at having to push that button. Loved Sawyer's - Oh Happy Day! Here comes Dr. Giggles. Where DID Ana Lucia get the gun? She was very quick in giving it to Jack. Maybe she's a mole. Everyone is back on the beach. She took it off of Charlie: who got it as gelt for toadying for Sawyer: nobody seems to have put all those clues together yet; and he hasn't been trusted with a gun since he shot Ethan. Should dawn on them pretty soon, like when they decide to go off to war led by Michael's evil Twin who showed up to lead them into death and danger and other badness. #rofl1# You mean when they invade the underground City so they can return the Dharma Initiative Fish Crackers and get some Dharma Initiative Ding-Dongs instead?
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Post by Rachael on Apr 13, 2006 8:46:22 GMT -5
Yep, the island healed her. Rose needs to stay. And she knows about Locke!!! Woo Hoo! I am enjoying the hell out of this episode. Hmm. The hypothesis that once the island heals you, you can't leave, has no data to back it up. In Shambala-types stories, you can't leave because your age will catch back up with you, but you don't get back injuries you used to have. But Rose seems to know stuff. She's like Locke, only with much less internal agitation. She could be right. It's also moderately intriguing that the island doesn't heal EVERYONE. People can still die, for example. Shannon's brother...what WAS his name...he coulda used some island healing there after his fall, but - nope. Wasn't like a sudden death, either.
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Post by Rachael on Apr 13, 2006 8:49:51 GMT -5
VINCENT!! A Sawyer's best friend. Ooo. Vincent. Not a good sign, that. Poor Sawyer. I imagine he's not liking the fact that Jack and Kate went off into the jungle alone together. Kate finally told Jack about the medical hatch! Such a pouty bunch of whiners. Ah, yes. You reminded me: I had a bad premonition for Sawyer when Vincent came wandering up to him. Everyone that dog has ever befriended has had something awful happen to them. Most of the ones we've seen have died. Walt's mother, then Walt (not dead, but kidnapped), Shannon...I think he's a harbinger of bad things to come. And that pooka hasn't been back in a while, either. How do we know Vincent is really Vincent?
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Post by fish1941 on Apr 13, 2006 10:59:00 GMT -5
I was surprised to discover that Bernard and Rose were not an "old married couple". That honor actually belongs to Jin and Sun. Instead, the middle-aged couple were returning to the States after an Australian honeymoon, when the plane crashed on Craphole Island. Interesting. I was also surprised to learn that Bernard wasn't merely some meek middle-aged man with barely a backbone. When he sets his mind on doing something, he goes the whole way. No wonder he managed to survive those first 48 days on the island with the Tailies. But Bernard has one drawback - like Jack, he believes that he can fix everything. With Rose's illness, he finally discovered that he cannot always be Mr. Fix-it. In fact, it seemed as if Rose has been trying to tell him this ever since they first met. If only Jack will learn this lesson.
In a way, Rose is right that Bernard needed to learn about letting go. I think that we all do at some point. On the other hand, I can see where Bernard is coming from in regard to the Lostaways' apathy regarding a rescue. Why hasn't anyone bothered to maintain some kind of signal? Have they given up that easily? If one studies Rose and Bernard's relationship, one could see that the philosophy of "letting go" and "not surrendering" is a two-way street. I guess it all depends upon the situation. Bernard had to learn that there are some things that are beyond anyone's control and one simply has to "go with the flow". However, his courtship of Rose told us that there are some matters in which one should not give up or surrender. In the end, it probably depends upon the situation.
Watching Rose and Bernard's relationship was a breath of fresh air in compare to the Jack/Kate relationship that seemed to have remained stalled in its adolescent state. Kate still clings to Jack like a fifteen year-old schoolgirl with a crush. Jack still treats her like a groupie. Watching them together trapped in the net or talking by the camp fire may have been all "sweet and cute", but I noticed one thing - after Jack had confronted Kate about not telling her about the hatch she and Claire had found in "Maternity Leave", Kate tried to remind him of his failure to reveal about the faux Henry Gale. But before she could finish her sentence . . . he brushed her off and went rushing toward the clearing where they had their encounter with Mr. Friendly. Hmmm. I'm beginning to suspect that Jack does not have much respect for Kate and that their relationship is not one between equals.
I never did buy Locke's declaration that he was through with the hatch. I doubt that he was fooling himself, but he was certainly trying to fool the others. I suspect that discovering that map has made him even more obssessed than ever. And I suspect that this does not bode well for him.
Poor Ana-Lucia. I suspect that she is beginning to feel isolated and lonely again. At first it seemed that Jack might prove to be a close friend on the island. But following his disregard for her efforts to recruit for his army, his accusations regarding Sun, keeping faux Henry a secret and rejecting her offer to accompany him into the jungle, I think that Ana-Lucia is going to end up being estranged from him. She tried to connect with Locke, but his own obssession with the hatch ended that possibility. And Sayid has not been around since she had prevented him from shooting faux Henry in "Dave". Which leads me to believe that they had not been playing "good cop, bad cop", last week. I think that Ana-Lucia might be on the verge of a mild depression due to her loneliness and guilt over Shannon and Jason's deaths. I suspect that in the end, she will turn to Henry . . . just to be with someone. Even if it is to interrogate him.
Minor notes:
-Hurley is dieting . . . and by choice. I'm proud of him.
-Sawyer obviously feels that he is losing Kate's company. Which would account for Vincent's appearance by his side and offer of companionship.
-HE'S . . . BACK! Michael's back.
*Thank you L. Scott Caldwell and Sam Anderson for continuing to breath new life into Rose and Bernard.
For the person who had asked about the gun in Ana-Lucia's possession . . . she got it from Sayid, when she prevented him from shooting faux Henry in "Dave". And he got it from Charlie in "The Whole Truth". I'm sure you know where Charlie got the gun from.
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Post by Anne, Old S'cubie Cat on Apr 13, 2006 11:01:08 GMT -5
Yep, the island healed her. Rose needs to stay. And she knows about Locke!!! Woo Hoo! I am enjoying the hell out of this episode. Hmm. The hypothesis that once the island heals you, you can't leave, has no data to back it up. In Shambala-types stories, you can't leave because your age will catch back up with you, but you don't get back injuries you used to have. But Rose seems to know stuff. She's like Locke, only with much less internal agitation. She could be right. It's also moderately intriguing that the island doesn't heal EVERYONE. People can still die, for example. Shannon's brother...what WAS his name...he coulda used some island healing there after his fall, but - nope. Wasn't like a sudden death, either. Boone was injured on the island. Maybe that makes a difference. So was Locke, for that matter, and his leg doesn't seem to be healing any faster than normal. We'll have to wait and see.
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Post by Pixi on Apr 13, 2006 12:08:55 GMT -5
Henry and his creepy vulpine smile. My favorite moment of the episode. I haven't been on this thread for ages. I found the episode kind of slow and predictable.
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Post by Anne, Old S'cubie Cat on Apr 13, 2006 13:04:18 GMT -5
Henry and his creepy vulpine smile. My favorite moment of the episode. I haven't been on this thread for ages. I found the episode kind of slow and predictable. That's how I felt about it. This has been a very slow season, with a lot of padding. Speaking of which, the extra four minutes were, as I expected, ads for other shows, including a protracted ad for Invasion. I call that cheating by the network.
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Post by fish1941 on Apr 13, 2006 13:26:37 GMT -5
I'm beginning to suspect that people mainly want action in every episode and quick resolutions in regard to the story's progression. Personally, I would say if you do not have the patience to deal with the story overall, then perhaps you should give up watching the show.
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Post by Pixi on Apr 13, 2006 14:16:05 GMT -5
I'm beginning to suspect that people mainly want action in every episode and quick resolutions in regard to the story's progression. Personally, I would say if you do not have the patience to deal with the story overall, then perhaps you should give up watching the show. I don't know if this was directed to me or not but I do have the patience to deal with any show but I feel that I have every right to criticize an episode that felt slow to me. I have watched this show since its inception and enjoy it at various times and find it slow at various times.
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Post by Anne, Old S'cubie Cat on Apr 13, 2006 14:18:23 GMT -5
I'm beginning to suspect that people mainly want action in every episode and quick resolutions in regard to the story's progression. Personally, I would say if you do not have the patience to deal with the story overall, then perhaps you should give up watching the show. I don't know if this was directed to me or not but I do have the patience to deal with any show but I feel that I have every right to criticize an episode that felt slow to me. I think it was directed at both of us. I will happily watch a show with a leisurely pace, as long as I feel like things will be resolved eventually. With Lost, it seems to me that the writers are simply adding more loose ends and more plot elements, while not resolving any of the old ones. It's very frustrating. Anne, as always, assume the IMO
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Post by Rachael on Apr 13, 2006 15:22:19 GMT -5
I'm beginning to suspect that people mainly want action in every episode and quick resolutions in regard to the story's progression. Personally, I would say if you do not have the patience to deal with the story overall, then perhaps you should give up watching the show. This? Is rude. Just so we're clear. Also, a bit passive-aggressive. The story suffers, in the opinion of many, from Chris Carter Syndrome. It bogs down in too many storylines and not enough progression. And those opinions are valid - just as valid as your liking the show despite these (perceived, on my part, at least) faults. You can disagree with this opinion, but it's just plain rude to tell people to go play somewhere else if they have problems with the show.
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Post by Shan on Apr 13, 2006 16:11:54 GMT -5
I'm beginning to suspect that people mainly want action in every episode and quick resolutions in regard to the story's progression. Personally, I would say if you do not have the patience to deal with the story overall, then perhaps you should give up watching the show. Check out The Rules please. Everybody has different reasons for watching whatever show and everybody has different expectations of it. No one poster's reasons or expectations are better than anyone else's. We're here to share our differing opinions on our various favorite shows. That's what makes this a fun place to be. Putting value judgments on other posters personally is NOT fun for anybody.
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Apr 13, 2006 18:41:21 GMT -5
Rose and Bernard flashback Why *isn't* Rose bothered by anything? They've given up. Role reversal: Jack making sure Locke pushes the button. "Henry" on a hunger strike A trade, intriguing... No, wait! Boring! They never give you Walt. Meep! Oh, this is how they first met. Cute. Dr. Giggles. Hee. Question of complacency, authority Bernard, the new Michael. False hope. What does God have to do to get your attention? Rose terminally ill. Yep, it is a church. Everyone on this island is building something. I'm trying to be saved. People are saved in different ways. I think I liked you better when you I like you just the way you are. Note on Charlie: needing to be needed. He can be annoying, but he's also helpful. "Henry" is the guy in charge, like how Ana-Lucia did the fake-out in the pit. Cree-Pee shot of him. Good makeup job. Rose and Bernard went to Australia for their honeymoon. Wanted to be on a beach for their honeymoon. Be careful what you wish for. I told you honey, we're not lost. Faith healer or the island cured Rose. Trying to save people without their consent. for them or for yourself? Lovely pictures Pixi management problem. Ouch. Serenity prayer. damaged goods. It's a trap! Rousseau's trap God, this isn't at all telegraphed. It's like they're having sex, but they're not. Star Wars ref. Locke limped all the way to the beach? Locke's done with the hatch? Maybe because he's got the map mystery now. But honey, both you and I both know it's not going to take that long. High energy spots Rose and the faith healer, Claire and the psychic This is not the right place for you. Rain. Never good. Finally, Kate tells Jack about the other hatch. Kate's got a good point. Holding information hostage. Talking to god. Healing powers, reason for people to stay on the island. Who would want to leave such a place? Somewhat explains lack of curiousity in general. Don't look a gift horse in the mouth. Except when a crisis occurs and everyone kicks themselves for being caught unawares. Really healing powers, or is that what everybody thinks? She just thinks she's healed because she saw that Locke was cured? I pressed your button. Everybody's got somebody to love. Vincent!! Bringing up the kiss. Michael! So next week we're going to find out where Michael was? Aw, such sweet episode. Happy sigh. You just know it's going to be blown all to hell but soon.
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