Post by SpringSummers on Nov 16, 2005 7:18:45 GMT -5
Me said:
Awesome analysis, Spring! Once again, you've blown us all away.Interesting though -- with all the fire and ice imagery, you didn't mention Robert Frost's poem (or was that too obvious? (and my apologies if someone has mentioned it -- I haven't gone through the whole discussion)):
Fire and Ice
Some say the world will end in fire,
Some say in ice.
From what I've tasted of desire
I hold with those who favour fire.
But if it had to perish twice,
I think I know enough of hate
To say that for destruction ice
Is also great
And would suffice.
What gets me is the "apocalyptic-y" aspect of the poem, in conjunction with all the destruction and destructive behavior in the episode. Do we know that Amelia was dead before whoever-it-was stuck her in the ice machine? Or was that how the murderer killed her (hit her on the head or drugged her and left her to freeze to death)?
There's also a lot of "desire" and "hate" running rampant through the episode. Weevil and his boys clearly "desire" justice -- or their version of it -- and turn to fire to get it. And someone definitely "hates" (or fears) Amelia (or what she can potentially do) enough to resort to ice.
(The poem also picks up on your theme of "duplicity" -- "if it had to perish twice.")
Again, brava, cara!
Hi, Laura. It is always good to hear from you, bambina!
Yes, I sorta/kinda mentioned the poem here, in this line of my review: "I mentioned earlier that the episode doesn’t provide us any answers, about what matters (if anything), or about whether the world should end in fire, or in ice."
I decided it was obvious enough to anyone who knew the poem, and if they didn't know the poem, the sentence still made sense . . . so I just left it at that.
The poem you quote is the reason I titled the review as I did. Good catch there. I guess I've read so much Joss-stuff I'm starting to imitate him with my own little undercover references. (Actually, I do deliberately throw stuff into my analyses that the more careful reader might notice.)
Some perceptive soul, earlier in the thread, made the comment that the dead body could be Amelia's boyfriend (rather than Amelia) - in which case the clerk would still connect it to Veronica. This is an interesting possibility, though I thought I remembered that we saw a female hand. But I have yet to check that out.
I did think the fire and ice imagery was deliberate and fit well with the whole "emotions vs intellect" "heart vs head" theme in this ep, and that we've been seeing all season.