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Post by Lola m on May 13, 2006 23:45:54 GMT -5
I agree. What he said to Veronica on the roof is true of him as well, I think. I was surprised about Duncan at first too. I guess it's true what they say about how 'you always have to watch out for the quiet, nice-seeming ones'. That's exactly what I was saying to Sara earlier. #rofl1#
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Post by Lola m on May 13, 2006 23:46:24 GMT -5
Sigh. Another slow, MoTW episode. When are we going to get some freaking ANSWERS? Wait...which thread is this? **snortle**
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Post by Lola m on May 13, 2006 23:51:49 GMT -5
If this was the end for Wallace and Jackie (and I think it has pretty much run its course), I really liked the symmetry. If there's anything Wallace would understand and respect, it'd be Jackie needing to take responsibility for her decisions in life...which his own father didn't always do. I'm not sure how to feel about Veronica knowing the real story about Jackie, yet not telling Wallace. Is this progress from earlier in the year, when she was more...is aggressive the right word? I don't know. Perhaps Veronica was afraid Wallace would go away again if he perceived her protective nature wrongly. Plus, she may have felt a certain loyalty to Jackie by this point. Hard to say. Anyway, I thought someone should talk about the Wallace and Jackie storyline, since it'll be buried beneath mystery/LoVe talk in most forums. I can't decide about V not telling Wallace. I lean toward it being . . . . well, like it being something she felt had to come from Jackie herself? I mean, if Jackie said she wouldn't go to stop Wallace from flying, I'll bet that V would have done something. But I see some growth in Wallace and Veronica's relationship (heck, in Jackie and Veronica's relationship as well) in this. Like she realised this was personal stuff, personal to each of them and to the two of them combined. I linked it back to the moment in the Java Hut when Wallace is reading Jackie's note out loud, but stopped at a certain point because that wasn't to be shared - not even with V.
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Post by Lola m on May 14, 2006 0:02:31 GMT -5
So this is Paris. The Sorbonne. Huh. "Several ugly days of rude waiters for nothing" (ETA: I don't think Veronica actually investigated/thought about Jackie's story until Alicia came to her)(and other after-the-fact parenthetical explanations of this telegraphic pile of cussing below will also be in this color)I think you're right. Well, his mom left money to Logan, but I guess as a minor daddy could have power over that? But really, after all the stuff that went on I'll be Logan could have gotten himself declared an emancipated minor. Luckily, he didn't have to bother. That was such a creepy icky scene in the elevator!!! **nods nods nods** They were all absolutely stunning. And Mac! My god, the actress that played Mac! When they come back to the room after? Damn! So totally the continuity crack of the season, for me. **nods** Wallace understands that she needs to do the responsible thing now. Even if that is hard on the two of them. A most excellent season ender, indeed.
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Post by Lola m on May 14, 2006 0:03:45 GMT -5
Kill off all 3 villains? Aaron; Cassidy; Woody. And pretend to kill a lead character (except that most certainly HAS been done.) But we start with a dream. And they were so happy at the end, and yet there's Veronica, waiting at the airport by herself. I'm worried that Keith is really dead. Don't even say that!! But it would be a hell of a thing for next season . . . No! You aren't going to get me thinking down that road, missy!
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Post by Lola m on May 14, 2006 0:04:32 GMT -5
Oh my God. Oh my GOD! This is all too much!! Oh Lordy!!! **pets Spring in empathy, after the fact**
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Post by Lola m on May 14, 2006 0:06:05 GMT -5
OK. Is done. Wow. I'm . . . just, wow. I guess I said that already, but - wow. I am still avoiding everyone's posts because I need to write that review, and reading the posts kinda screws up the process for me. But wow. Well - I think the only predicition I got right this year was when I wrote that Jackie either had a child or an abortion or an STD. At least that's not bugging me anymore. Mac!! Beaver!! AARON!!! DUNCAN!!! CLARENCE!!! LOGAN!! Logan & Veronica!! Yes! Yes! YES! YES! YES! YES! Yesssss! Total agreement here. **relaxes again, now that Spring has lived through the last of the finale**
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Post by SpringSummers on May 14, 2006 0:06:38 GMT -5
Good question. I was bothered by Wallace's - "Oh, you're one of 'them'." But I liked his glasses. She was a very different Veronica in the dream, wasn't she? When she's teased about being gullible and she talks about just being trusting and all. That's definitely an interesting insight into "Veronica if things hadn't changed". I didn't think of the dream as being "what it would have been like if Lilly hadn't died," as some have suggested. It seemed to be a lot more about Veronica - an idealized version of her life, how the child inside of her would make things, if that part of her was in control of the universe. I didn't think the dream was supposed to represent how things woud have been if Lilly hadn't died. I thought it was more about Veronica's idealized life, which, of course, includes a still-living Lilly.
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Post by Lola m on May 14, 2006 0:07:15 GMT -5
It's going to be a long summer. There is no way they killed Daddy Mars. It may have been Beaver who blew up the bus, but it was Woody's sick perversion that set him on that course. I can't believe that he hurt Mac. This is just too terrible! Yes - I gotta say, I never believed that Keith was actually dead. Interesting the consolation scene - I mean, Logan is consoling Veronica over the death of HER father, when really, HIS father is dead. That is a most excellent insight . . .
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Post by Lola m on May 14, 2006 0:07:56 GMT -5
Pieta symbolism in that image of her in Logan's arms there... neat. Ooooh, yes! I thought that too!
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Post by Lola m on May 14, 2006 0:09:47 GMT -5
Hi! I'm a long-time lurker who was shown this board by KMInfinity. I really like your thoughts and reviews. I just had to chime in tonight. I just knew it was going to be Cassidy, which sucks because I like the actor. I even felt bad when he yelled, "My name is Cassidy." In spite of myself. But did you guys get the best bit of the night? Duncan's phone call: "CW?" "It's a done deal." Not to get hopes up or anything, lol...but do you think they were trying to tell us something? What Cassidy did was terrible, terrible, terrible. But he was soooo young and screwed up and the whole thing made me cry, partly FOR him. And that moment when he said, "My name is Cassidy!" was just so heartrending and revealing. **nods** And then when he went off the roof? Just wanting to die.
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Post by Lola m on May 14, 2006 0:10:34 GMT -5
One thing: what a wonderful piece of ensemble acting tonight. I guess I shouldn't be terribly surprised, what with this being the finale and all...but I thought the actors really brought their A-games. Especially Kyle Gallner. Man, how good was he when he read that text-message? He just...transformed. What a fascinating character Cassidy turned out to be. Leave It To Beaver, indeed. Yes - I thought of that too - I mean, how the last ep of last season was called "Leave it to Beaver." Wow. **nods nods nods nods nods**
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Post by Lola m on May 14, 2006 0:12:01 GMT -5
I definitely think that's a likely scenario. But if that's what she was talking about at Keith's office, she must have had some major "hook" to get Keith to miss the plane. That's very un-Keith. A suitcase full of cash wouldn't have done it, not to Keith. It had to be something that was a smoking gun. Like a picture of Clarence shooting Aaron or something. With a smoking gun. Or something. But that was not a happy look, or an avaricious look on Keith's face: it was an "Oh, my." look. "How do I deal with this unpleasantness?" more than "opportunity!" **snicker** And I think you're right about it being an "oh my" look.
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Post by Lola m on May 14, 2006 0:13:17 GMT -5
Pieta symbolism in that image of her in Logan's arms there... neat. Also a neat reversal of the imagery of the season premiere, when Logan lays prostrate across Veronica's lap. At least I think that's what they were doing. **nods nods nods nods nods** Man. I must look like a bobblehead doll sometimes.
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Post by Lola m on May 14, 2006 0:14:16 GMT -5
I agree, great Pieta symbolism. Does anyone else think that Cassidy might have raped Mac before going up to the roof? I thought that's what they were trying to imply, but I haven't heard anyone else mention it, so maybe I'm wrong. I also thought that maybe those strange Sally and/or Amber comments were about other young women he raped? I don't know - maybe I'm not making much sense. Got to run anyway - so enjoying reading this thread! Yay, yay, yay for Rob! I was thinking that too. Because Mac at the end was very traumatised by something. And she hadn't been when we last saw her with Cassidy.
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