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Post by Onjel on Dec 6, 2006 10:00:10 GMT -5
random notes: For those who vote for MacPiz, I'm with you. I started playing matchmaker for that 'ship as soon as I heard Piz might be set up with Veronica. (Same way I always felt Faith and Wood were a better pair than the clumsy Buffy/Wood date.) I like the idea that the Dean's murder might be connected to the Perfect Murder assignment. Could have a lot of clever twists. leftylady May I just say, Eetah?! To the entire post.
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Dec 6, 2006 10:07:38 GMT -5
random notes: For those who vote for MacPiz, I'm with you. I started playing matchmaker for that 'ship as soon as I heard Piz might be set up with Veronica. (Same way I always felt Faith and Wood were a better pair than the clumsy Buffy/Wood date.) I like the idea that the Dean's murder might be connected to the Perfect Murder assignment. Could have a lot of clever twists. leftylady May I just say, Eetah?! To the entire post. Wonder if, between that assignment and the prison experiment, anyone is going to start thinking that Hearst profs are little too creative for their own good.
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Post by Michelle on Dec 6, 2006 11:07:34 GMT -5
Bravo Fotada - another great job. I enjoyed reading your review. I've read so much about this episode and made so many comments everywhere that I don't think I have anything coherent to add other than bravo. Thanks, Pixi! I have to get faster at writing these things. I know that everything that could be said about that ep has probably been said! Ah well, I had fun putting all the puns in my review. I really appreciate your feedback, Pixi. It means a lot.
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Post by Michelle on Dec 6, 2006 11:16:18 GMT -5
Great review, Fotada. I hadn't thought of Tim's outburst as another mystery. Interesting. I also hadn't considered whether Landry and the sorority house mistress had a connection. Thanks so much! I thought Tim's outburst was a little weird. It's got to mean something, I would assume. (I know, I shouldn't assume!) Thanks for your feedback! I love reading other people's reactions.
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Post by leftylady on Dec 9, 2006 15:05:25 GMT -5
Great review, as usual, Fotada!
I'm late in posting as usual after a week of late (very late) workdays, but wanted to get my kudos out to you.
Loved how you pick up all the ironies, and so many in the episode. Wow.
A great episode. Loved Veronica fighting back against the rapist, armed only with a unicorn - the mixed metaphor of innocence with a phallic horn!
leftylady
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Post by Michelle on Dec 10, 2006 12:01:13 GMT -5
Great review, as usual, Fotada! I'm late in posting as usual after a week of late (very late) workdays, but wanted to get my kudos out to you. Loved how you pick up all the ironies, and so many in the episode. Wow. A great episode. Loved Veronica fighting back against the rapist, armed only with a unicorn - the mixed metaphor of innocence with a phallic horn!leftylady Oooh!! I like that metaphor, Lefty! Very nice. During that scene, I also thought of how Buffy saved Dawn from Harmony & her minions by using one of Harmony's unicorns. Girl power!
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Post by Lola m on Dec 10, 2006 19:25:04 GMT -5
Finally managing to get here and comment on your fab review, Fotada! First off, I loved your bullet list of plot twists. VM has always been all about the "it's like this, no wait, it's like this, no wait, it's something completely different" - but I hadn't realised just how much this first mystery of the season was holding to that. Especially in this ep, full of so very many twists and double twists. Thanks also for the most excellent observation about the parallel "white noise" around each of the key Veronica and Logan scenes as well as this: I completely missed that crucial bit of fuel explaining the timing of Veronica's breakdown. (I mean, of course, she's only going to do it when she's alone so no one can see her be vulnerable, but Keith as part of the motivation is important. Especially coming after recent events that tied Logan and Keith together in both disappointing her and being there when she needed them.) Just an excellent exploration of both the mystery and the complexity of the relationship between Veronica and Logan in this review, Fotada! Brava! #claps# P.S. You also cleverly explained the truth behind Tim's bulletin board, which I missed entirely.
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Post by Michelle on Dec 11, 2006 10:50:59 GMT -5
I completely missed that crucial bit of fuel explaining the timing of Veronica's breakdown. (I mean, of course, she's only going to do it when she's alone so no one can see her be vulnerable, but Keith as part of the motivation is important. Especially coming after recent events that tied Logan and Keith together in both disappointing her and being there when she needed them.) That's a really good point, Lola. I'm sure a great essay could be written about Veronica's high expectations stemming from daddy issues, and how it relates to her love life. Veronica is a complicated girl. Thank you so much, Lola! You are too kind. I feel like I only brushed the surface on their relationship, and others might see it differently. I would love to hear different view points. I wonder if Tim discovered Bonnie's infidelities in the process of investigating the rapes, or did he start investigating the rape mystery tangential to his suspicions about his girlfriend? It will be interesting to see if and how they explain this.
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Post by jeff on Mar 11, 2007 10:40:53 GMT -5
Great reveiw Fotada! I totally missed the connection between Logan kissing V on the forhead , then Keith doing it a few minutes later, this is part of the reasons I could not write reviews. I miss a lot of things like that.
Wonderful job!
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Post by Lola m on Mar 11, 2007 16:18:28 GMT -5
Great reveiw Fotada! I totally missed the connection between Logan kissing V on the forhead , then Keith doing it a few minutes later, this is part of the reasons I could not write reviews. I miss a lot of things like that. Wonderful job! That was one of my favorite things from her review too! I love when other people can help me see stuff like this, 'cuz I know I offen miss these type of things.
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Mar 11, 2007 21:08:06 GMT -5
Fotada: I really liked your analysis of the Veronica/Logan relationship in the context of this episode.
Especially:
*Later, when Veronica tells her dad about the break up, Keith unknowingly mimics Logan by kissing her on the forehead. Understandably, she breaks down soon after, albeit in the privacy of a shower.
And (*Very* astute) here:
*This is completely understandable. By beating up Mercer (and perhaps Moe) Logan is fulfilling a role that Veronica has encouraged in the past. In “Weapons of Class Destruction,” Logan repeatedly hits Ben, the undercover federal agent. Following this, they share their first kiss. In “Not Pictured,” after spending the entire season broken up, Veronica and Logan finally reunite after he comes to Veronica’s rescue and tackles Cassidy to the ground, knocking the gun out of his hand.
It wouldn’t be surprising if Mercer is also the one leaving the “surprise” in the bathroom stall for Moe.
I'm confused. What are you referring to here?
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Post by Michelle on Mar 12, 2007 11:01:29 GMT -5
Fotada: I really liked your analysis of the Veronica/Logan relationship in the context of this episode. Especially: *Later, when Veronica tells her dad about the break up, Keith unknowingly mimics Logan by kissing her on the forehead. Understandably, she breaks down soon after, albeit in the privacy of a shower.Whoo hoo! Love the comments. Thanks also to Lola and Jeff. I'm glad this stuck out for you. I think that Keith's forehead kiss mirroring Logan's drove home to Veronica what she was losing. Logan (for all his faults) has been a big part of her support system, and realizing that loss was probably pretty painful. This was in reference to the scene where Moe was talking to Wallace and Piz in their dorm room about someone leaving what he called a "surprise" in the men's bathroom. Basically someone wasn't flushing after using the facilities. Wallace and Piz laughed it off and denied that they had anything to do with it. Since we learn in this episode that Moe was the one who "cleaned up" after Mercer raped his victims--by taking the girls' hair--I speculated that Mercer was leaving another kind of mess behind for Moe to clean up as well.
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Mar 13, 2007 7:11:22 GMT -5
It wouldn’t be surprising if Mercer is also the one leaving the “surprise” in the bathroom stall for Moe.I'm confused. What are you referring to here? This was in reference to the scene where Moe was talking to Wallace and Piz in their dorm room about someone leaving what he called a "surprise" in the men's bathroom. Basically someone wasn't flushing after using the facilities. Wallace and Piz laughed it off and denied that they had anything to do with it. Since we learn in this episode that Moe was the one who "cleaned up" after Mercer raped his victims--by taking the girls' hair--I speculated that Mercer was leaving another kind of mess behind for Moe to clean up as well. Ah, I thought that's what it probably meant, but then I was thinking of the shaved hair too, and it's been so long since I've seen the episode. Thanks.
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