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Post by Sara on Oct 7, 2005 20:45:03 GMT -5
If anyone feels like discussing the episode or my musings on the subject, here be the place.
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Post by Lola m on Oct 8, 2005 21:07:51 GMT -5
Another most excellent analysis, Sara!
So glad you started with the quotes from Serenity here in the episode where they come true. I love Firefly for those little moments of connection and continuity. Jayne when the money is good enough. The part that they needed in the first ep being the one that damages the ship in Out of Gas. The recurring character of Saffron (or should I say, YoSaffBridge). Nothing is just a throw-away in this show.
Very good point about this being an examination of the crew of Serenity; after all, Jayne betrays the Tams because he really doesn't see them as part of the crew - part of the group. Until Mal explains it to him, I think he really didn't understand the way his actions affect the others. As you pointed out, Jayne starts the episode viewing the Tams pretty much as cargo - and rather troublesome cargo to boot.
(Side note: your point about the intriguing meaning of Wash's position is just perfect.)
Until you pointed it out, I hadn't really thought about Jayne's shifting view of Simon or River as they journey through the hospital. And I certainly hadn't actively applied that to his actions in helping them escape with him. I think I had noticed his reactions, but hadn't really thought about how they reflected a changing opinion. Thanks for that insight!
Big eetah on how amazing and stunning the scene with Mal is. If I had not already had a high opinion of Nathan Fillion's acting abilities, that one scene would have convinced me. The startling speed of his attack and then, as you point out, the realization of what he is perfectly prepared to do. Like you, I have absolutely no doubt that Mal was going to space Jayne. And I have absolutely no doubt that Jayne knew that as well. You can see on Mal's face the moment that he changes his mind - so subtle and yet so immediately obvious.
I'm glad you also made sure to point out the other very key plots. Yes, the hospital heist itself is fabulous, with its twists and turns and dead ends. But the heist was all just a way for Simon to try and find out what is wrong with River and in that respect, it was very successful. They may ultimately end up making virtually no money on the drugs they stole, but the information regarding River's problems was, I imagine, invaluable.
Like you, I have no trouble believing that Joss knew exactly what he was doing when he created the planet names. (Heck, all the names. And yes, I noticed the mention of Miranda here - very intriguing.). Thinking of the Blue Sun theme that he was planning to weave throughout the series makes me believe that you are very on target with your suspicions.
Interesting to note how the asleep/awake/dreaming or not theme was carried over to the movie. In particular, I think of how River begs Simon not to put her to sleep again and his lines about it instead being time to wake up.
Brava, Sara, brava!
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Post by Sara on Oct 12, 2005 21:08:04 GMT -5
<snip> Like you, I have no trouble believing that Joss knew exactly what he was doing when he created the planet names. (Heck, all the names. And yes, I noticed the mention of Miranda here - very intriguing.). Thinking of the Blue Sun theme that he was planning to weave throughout the series makes me believe that you are very on target with your suspicions. Interesting to note how the asleep/awake/dreaming or not theme was carried over to the movie. In particular, I think of how River begs Simon not to put her to sleep again and his lines about it instead being time to wake up. Brava, Sara, brava! Thank you ma'am. I was kinda hoping Vlad would be able to get the review posted before Serenity opened so people who aren't English major geeks would know Miranda was also a character in The Tempest, but I gave it to him very late in the game--totally my fault. Anyway, I really appreciate the very kind words, and I'm glad you enjoyed reading the review.
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