Post by Lola m on Oct 8, 2007 12:32:47 GMT -5
My stream of consciousness notes . . .
Hmmmm. Her little darlings don’t look that little after all. Or that darling.
Nekkid Jack! Yays! Nightmares . . . not so yay. Looks like WWI? Dead guys with rose petals in their mouths? And then a petal on the desk . . .
“You shouldn’t be here.” (Because it’s “after hours” and no emergency and everyone is gone or because he’s supposed to be on some kind of leave because of what happened last ep?) “Neither should you.” (Does not everyone know he lives/sleeps there?) And he hides the petal. Interesting.
Oh, hand on shoulder, moment of squeeful Jack/Ianto-ness. Mmmmm.
Weather weirdness. Which Jack recognizes.
Little girl, walking home herself. Icky guy. Girl seems to know that something’s wrong, but she should yell and run right away. Oh! Well, the “little darlings” are going to take care of him, aren’t they? “Demon child.” And she knows that they are going to get him. Ah, which is why she didn’t bother with yelling and running, I’ll bet.
An old friend of Jack’s (from same time as the dead soldiers?). Heh! Gwen is all scornful of fairies. She has no problem with all the alien wackiness they deal with all the time, but fairies are nonsense, eh? Old friend is all “they’re shy, friendly”, etc. And Jack knows better. “Wrong. She always gets it wrong.”
“I only see the good ones.” Jack only sees the bad. And Gwen is all, one person’s good is another person’s bad. (Which is probably pretty true.)
Hmmmm. “What his father used to say.” Meaning, Estelle knew him back in the day and he now pretends that was his dad. Standard ploy for long-lived or immortal types. Didn’t we just see the vamp on Moonlight use that too?
And of course they don’t just make sure the kid gets away from the bad guy, they go after him. More petals . . . ‘til he tries to get a cop to take him in. Something tells me that isn’t going to save him.
“It’s alright, mum, no on can hurt me.” Yep. The kid knows what’s going on.
Estelle and Jack’s “dad” were together . . . but Gwen knows Jack can’t die, so I bet she figures out there is no dad. Yep. “Did all three of you ever meet?” She knows.
What folks call fairies aren’t alien, but unknown. (Well, that is kind of alien, eh? Just means that they don’t come from another planet, although, if you don’t know what they are, how are you sure.) Ooh, I like his description, touch of myth, touch of spiritual world, touch of reality. They are partly here and partly not. Which fits with the classic old-school idea of the fae folk. And yes, they weren’t presented as exactly the good guys in classic old stories.
Mom and step-daddy noticing that something is odd about little Jasmine. Although the list he starts with is funny. She’s weird because she doesn’t watch TV. Really, his description just sounds like a very solitary child. Although, most solitary kids are doing something besides just being alone. They’re reading, or acting out their own games, or making art, or . . . etc etc. They just don’t know what Jasmine is doing instead of all the activities they know she isn’t doing.
“I blame it on magic mushrooms.” “What you do in private is none of our business.” Ha! ;D Bringing in the rest of the team. I remember hearing about those old pictures too. Ah, a patch of woods that have an ancient tradition of being wacky? Yeah, probably a good place to start. And they are elementals, so they do wacky stuff with weather, which Ianto was already picking up earlier. But all their fancy equipment can’t actually pick up on the fairies themselves. Because they’re not really totally in this plane of existence, maybe?
Creepy guy has made it to the police station, at least. Oh, and he lets them know just how creepy he is. Actor does a nice job with being icky.
Huh. With all this, Gwen is still doubting? Why? Just ‘cuz they’re called fairies? If Jack had started with some other explanation, given them some other name, would she have accepted it quicker?
Nice intercutting of scenes. Jack talking to the team. Little girl chatting with the fairies in her room and mum finally understanding that something is up. Estelle getting a visit from the not so nice as she wanted them to be fairies. They “protect their own”, chosen ones (it’s always a chosen one, isn’t it?).
Drowned her with rain. What a scary scene – poor old woman, trying to find her kitty, all that rain just pouring down on her, beating her down.
And poor Jack. They promised to be with each other until they died. Well, you kind of knew that couldn’t happen, being that you can’t die and all. But he couldn’t even be there at the end for her, only find her body.
Jack tells the story about the soldiers on the train – also scary. “Then came the silence.” So, the soldiers ran over a chosen one, and the little girl is a chosen one (which means, look out step daddy, if you keep trying to interfere). And Estelle . . . why attack her? Because she drew Jack’s attention to them again? Or was she supposed to be a “chosen one” when she was little and didn’t take the offer and they’re angry? Jack’s responsibility again. The soldiers were under his command, his responsibility. Estelle was his responsibility (I take issue with that one, Jack).
Ooooh, more scary! They came to Gwen’s house and wrecked it, left little replica of circle in the woods . . .
There goes step dad. Gonna “put a stop to things”. Yeah, like that won’t doom him. Oh and now being nasty to her? “No wonder your dad left when you were a baby.” Well, that’s just wrong to say to a kid, I don’t care if she is a creepy demon fairy chosen one kid.
Kids picking on her at school. Hmmmm. Doesn’t rat them out to the teacher, but I’ll bet she sic’s the fairies on them.
Gwen: “I never felt threatened in my own home before.” And it spurs her to use her detective skills to get right at the heart of things. They protect their own, need to find a child.
Huh. Interesting. The fairies are actually children from the past – from the “lost lands”. So, the old stories of fairy land, a place that’s not quite here, time passes differently there, etc.
Yep. Here come the fairies to get the mean girls. Same very very specific bad weather – only directed at some, but the little girl is not even touched. Like the cat. Only they don’t seem to care that the teacher was nice to her, if she’s in the way she gets got too.
Step dad is fencing off the garden/woods? Oh, that’s gonna be the final nail in his coffin, isn’t it?
Eeek! Run, Gwen! No one left at school, but now they know which kid is the "chosen one".
Mom finally having a bit of a talk with little Jasmine. Friends who are in the trees and could be here too. Well, really, that could be any child talking about their imaginary friends, couldn't it? "Where did you meet these friends?" Means mum is a bit more worried.
Oh step daddy is really not very nice, is he? That smug little grin as he watches her run towards the fence he put up.
Oh and then he hits her? Granted, she bit him, but that is not right for a grown up. Plus, calling her a bitch? Not endearing him to me. 
A "bad guy", like the pedophile guy. But, deserving to die? Hmmmm. And the soldiers, too. Drunk, culpable, yes. All needed to die like that? Hmmm. And poor Estelle, what did she ever do but mistakenly think the fairies were all fluffy bunny types?
Oh, they're not even hiding for this attack. Show themselves completely. (Nice bit with them knocking the barbeque over. I wondered if they'd use that, since they use the elements of air, water, fire, etc.)
And they break right through his fence. Yeah, they weren't happy with that, dude. Kill step daddy (like I couldn't see that one coming.) And then little Jasmine runs thru the hole they made.
Oh, that's kind of cool, in a creepy way. She sees the old forest that used to be there. So, she's halfway into their world already, then. "I want to stay in it." "The real forest can neve rcome back." "Don't you want to stay with your mom?" Um. No, I don't think she does.
Jack tries to argue - she's not sure (um, she sounded pretty sure to me), choose someone else (but, then what about that kid?).
What if we make her stay with us. (Do they really have the ability to do that?) "Then a lot more people will die." "They told you that?" "They promised." Ooooh. So, she did want the mean kids to get it . . . and then they also have the power to wreck the world, kill eveyone . . .
"The child won't be harmed?" Oh, Gwen doesn't like that. But, I don't see a way out. And I think the girl really does want to go, hell, she's mostly there already. "She lives forever." Oh, just like you, Jack.
Huh. They'll be no more chosen ones? "They'll find us back in time." Very intriguing.
"Take her." For the sake of the world, this is our only chance.
Girl says thank you but mom is not so thankful. But at least mom got to see that she walked off into disapearing herself. Not wondering if she just got by someone like the creepy guy, or wandered off, or whatever. I think mom, by now, knows a bit of what was going on. Whether or not she admits it. I mean, in the old stories, the fairy folk left their own babies with humans to raise. And they would always turn out to be somewhat odd, not fit in, etc. Happier when they returned to the fairy land. So, maybe little Jasmine was never really meant to stay in the human world at all.
Well, the team is pissed at him. But it's not like they haven't all done things . . . covered up killings, used alien tech for their own ends, etc. Guess they all get to alternate being the one who did something that made the others angry and the one being angry.
Oh, there's Jasmine in the picture. Nice quotage. "The world's more full of weeping, than you can understand."
I keep going back to the beginning when Jack found the rose petal. Was that a warning to him? Telling him to make Estelle back off? Telling him to back off? But he hadn’t done anything yet. So, were they actually giving him a heads-up? Or just playing games? Or . . .
Hmmmm. Her little darlings don’t look that little after all. Or that darling.
Nekkid Jack! Yays! Nightmares . . . not so yay. Looks like WWI? Dead guys with rose petals in their mouths? And then a petal on the desk . . .
“You shouldn’t be here.” (Because it’s “after hours” and no emergency and everyone is gone or because he’s supposed to be on some kind of leave because of what happened last ep?) “Neither should you.” (Does not everyone know he lives/sleeps there?) And he hides the petal. Interesting.
Oh, hand on shoulder, moment of squeeful Jack/Ianto-ness. Mmmmm.
Weather weirdness. Which Jack recognizes.
Little girl, walking home herself. Icky guy. Girl seems to know that something’s wrong, but she should yell and run right away. Oh! Well, the “little darlings” are going to take care of him, aren’t they? “Demon child.” And she knows that they are going to get him. Ah, which is why she didn’t bother with yelling and running, I’ll bet.
An old friend of Jack’s (from same time as the dead soldiers?). Heh! Gwen is all scornful of fairies. She has no problem with all the alien wackiness they deal with all the time, but fairies are nonsense, eh? Old friend is all “they’re shy, friendly”, etc. And Jack knows better. “Wrong. She always gets it wrong.”
“I only see the good ones.” Jack only sees the bad. And Gwen is all, one person’s good is another person’s bad. (Which is probably pretty true.)
Hmmmm. “What his father used to say.” Meaning, Estelle knew him back in the day and he now pretends that was his dad. Standard ploy for long-lived or immortal types. Didn’t we just see the vamp on Moonlight use that too?
And of course they don’t just make sure the kid gets away from the bad guy, they go after him. More petals . . . ‘til he tries to get a cop to take him in. Something tells me that isn’t going to save him.
“It’s alright, mum, no on can hurt me.” Yep. The kid knows what’s going on.
Estelle and Jack’s “dad” were together . . . but Gwen knows Jack can’t die, so I bet she figures out there is no dad. Yep. “Did all three of you ever meet?” She knows.
What folks call fairies aren’t alien, but unknown. (Well, that is kind of alien, eh? Just means that they don’t come from another planet, although, if you don’t know what they are, how are you sure.) Ooh, I like his description, touch of myth, touch of spiritual world, touch of reality. They are partly here and partly not. Which fits with the classic old-school idea of the fae folk. And yes, they weren’t presented as exactly the good guys in classic old stories.
Mom and step-daddy noticing that something is odd about little Jasmine. Although the list he starts with is funny. She’s weird because she doesn’t watch TV. Really, his description just sounds like a very solitary child. Although, most solitary kids are doing something besides just being alone. They’re reading, or acting out their own games, or making art, or . . . etc etc. They just don’t know what Jasmine is doing instead of all the activities they know she isn’t doing.
“I blame it on magic mushrooms.” “What you do in private is none of our business.” Ha! ;D Bringing in the rest of the team. I remember hearing about those old pictures too. Ah, a patch of woods that have an ancient tradition of being wacky? Yeah, probably a good place to start. And they are elementals, so they do wacky stuff with weather, which Ianto was already picking up earlier. But all their fancy equipment can’t actually pick up on the fairies themselves. Because they’re not really totally in this plane of existence, maybe?
Creepy guy has made it to the police station, at least. Oh, and he lets them know just how creepy he is. Actor does a nice job with being icky.
Huh. With all this, Gwen is still doubting? Why? Just ‘cuz they’re called fairies? If Jack had started with some other explanation, given them some other name, would she have accepted it quicker?
Nice intercutting of scenes. Jack talking to the team. Little girl chatting with the fairies in her room and mum finally understanding that something is up. Estelle getting a visit from the not so nice as she wanted them to be fairies. They “protect their own”, chosen ones (it’s always a chosen one, isn’t it?).
Drowned her with rain. What a scary scene – poor old woman, trying to find her kitty, all that rain just pouring down on her, beating her down.
And poor Jack. They promised to be with each other until they died. Well, you kind of knew that couldn’t happen, being that you can’t die and all. But he couldn’t even be there at the end for her, only find her body. Jack tells the story about the soldiers on the train – also scary. “Then came the silence.” So, the soldiers ran over a chosen one, and the little girl is a chosen one (which means, look out step daddy, if you keep trying to interfere). And Estelle . . . why attack her? Because she drew Jack’s attention to them again? Or was she supposed to be a “chosen one” when she was little and didn’t take the offer and they’re angry? Jack’s responsibility again. The soldiers were under his command, his responsibility. Estelle was his responsibility (I take issue with that one, Jack).
Ooooh, more scary! They came to Gwen’s house and wrecked it, left little replica of circle in the woods . . .
There goes step dad. Gonna “put a stop to things”. Yeah, like that won’t doom him. Oh and now being nasty to her? “No wonder your dad left when you were a baby.” Well, that’s just wrong to say to a kid, I don’t care if she is a creepy demon fairy chosen one kid.
Kids picking on her at school. Hmmmm. Doesn’t rat them out to the teacher, but I’ll bet she sic’s the fairies on them.
Gwen: “I never felt threatened in my own home before.” And it spurs her to use her detective skills to get right at the heart of things. They protect their own, need to find a child.
Huh. Interesting. The fairies are actually children from the past – from the “lost lands”. So, the old stories of fairy land, a place that’s not quite here, time passes differently there, etc.
Yep. Here come the fairies to get the mean girls. Same very very specific bad weather – only directed at some, but the little girl is not even touched. Like the cat. Only they don’t seem to care that the teacher was nice to her, if she’s in the way she gets got too.
Step dad is fencing off the garden/woods? Oh, that’s gonna be the final nail in his coffin, isn’t it?
Eeek! Run, Gwen! No one left at school, but now they know which kid is the "chosen one".
Mom finally having a bit of a talk with little Jasmine. Friends who are in the trees and could be here too. Well, really, that could be any child talking about their imaginary friends, couldn't it? "Where did you meet these friends?" Means mum is a bit more worried.
Oh step daddy is really not very nice, is he? That smug little grin as he watches her run towards the fence he put up.
Oh and then he hits her? Granted, she bit him, but that is not right for a grown up. Plus, calling her a bitch? Not endearing him to me. 
A "bad guy", like the pedophile guy. But, deserving to die? Hmmmm. And the soldiers, too. Drunk, culpable, yes. All needed to die like that? Hmmm. And poor Estelle, what did she ever do but mistakenly think the fairies were all fluffy bunny types?
Oh, they're not even hiding for this attack. Show themselves completely. (Nice bit with them knocking the barbeque over. I wondered if they'd use that, since they use the elements of air, water, fire, etc.)
And they break right through his fence. Yeah, they weren't happy with that, dude. Kill step daddy (like I couldn't see that one coming.) And then little Jasmine runs thru the hole they made.
Oh, that's kind of cool, in a creepy way. She sees the old forest that used to be there. So, she's halfway into their world already, then. "I want to stay in it." "The real forest can neve rcome back." "Don't you want to stay with your mom?"
Um. No, I don't think she does.Jack tries to argue - she's not sure (um, she sounded pretty sure to me), choose someone else (but, then what about that kid?).
What if we make her stay with us. (Do they really have the ability to do that?) "Then a lot more people will die." "They told you that?" "They promised." Ooooh. So, she did want the mean kids to get it . . . and then they also have the power to wreck the world, kill eveyone . . .
"The child won't be harmed?" Oh, Gwen doesn't like that. But, I don't see a way out. And I think the girl really does want to go, hell, she's mostly there already. "She lives forever." Oh, just like you, Jack.
Huh. They'll be no more chosen ones? "They'll find us back in time." Very intriguing.
"Take her." For the sake of the world, this is our only chance.
Girl says thank you but mom is not so thankful. But at least mom got to see that she walked off into disapearing herself. Not wondering if she just got by someone like the creepy guy, or wandered off, or whatever. I think mom, by now, knows a bit of what was going on. Whether or not she admits it. I mean, in the old stories, the fairy folk left their own babies with humans to raise. And they would always turn out to be somewhat odd, not fit in, etc. Happier when they returned to the fairy land. So, maybe little Jasmine was never really meant to stay in the human world at all.
Well, the team is pissed at him. But it's not like they haven't all done things . . . covered up killings, used alien tech for their own ends, etc. Guess they all get to alternate being the one who did something that made the others angry and the one being angry.
Oh, there's Jasmine in the picture. Nice quotage. "The world's more full of weeping, than you can understand."
I keep going back to the beginning when Jack found the rose petal. Was that a warning to him? Telling him to make Estelle back off? Telling him to back off? But he hadn’t done anything yet. So, were they actually giving him a heads-up? Or just playing games? Or . . .
), it changes the way you are, at least in the work environment.