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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Oct 28, 2007 21:14:09 GMT -5
So, I have one problem with Torchwood - the assumption (by the writers) that all humans are, deep down, bisexual. It makes for good stories, and I don't have any problem with it from a moral perspective...it's just the scientist in me that's irritated. But, as we know, the scientist is a big part on many days, and today she wants her say. See, the science (and there's actually a lot) doesn't back them up on this. The short answer as we currently know it is that most women are bisexual (at least in terms of potential and attraction, not in terms of behavior), and most men are NOT. In fact, the truly bisexual man is a very rare thing. 55th-century humans I'll cut a break to, 'cause things change (though even in 3500 years, might not change that much, depends on what drives the change, and male sexuality seems to be largely genetic, which, not much change in 3500 years), but 21st-century male humans are generally straight or gay, tending to the very ends of the Kinsey scale, in attraction AND behavior. Which makes the Ianto/Jack thing very very unlikely. (Sorry to them as wanted it.) I find it mildly irritating because it makes me view Torchwood, sometimes, as one big slashfic, where the characters' sexualities change at the whim of the writers. Maybe it's just that bisexual humans gravitate towards Torchwood for some reason...or Jack has some sort of vibe he emits that makes other humans' sexuality more plastic. I mean, it's almost certain he has something like that going on.  I read about some of the men-aren't-bi research that made it sound deeply dodgy. Carefully selected samples etc I admit I haven't read huge amounts in detail but I thought the science isn't as clear as all that. *shrugs* Plus if you get into some of the queer theory gender as performance stuff the whole straight/gay/bi thing just doesn't work cause gender happens in too many varieties to fit the boxes. I haven't read said studies so I can't comment, but I do like that the show is inspiring such discussion, because that's a rare thing. |
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Post by beccaelizabeth on Oct 29, 2007 12:45:19 GMT -5
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Post by notloggedinfotada on Oct 30, 2007 17:16:49 GMT -5
Other Staff issues: Ianto and I stayed back to go over the case files and reorganize the safe. Internal security cameras were temporarily shut down to run diagnostic tests, so there was no monitoring of the Hub for approximately four hours - but there were no security breaches to report. Everything went very smoothly.
Upcoming issues: Need to requisition a new stopwatch. Old one damaged while moving a desk. Heh heh heh. |
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Post by Sara on Nov 1, 2007 21:42:22 GMT -5
Ianto and Jack? Now, that was a surprise. Nifty! ;D Actually, I had a bit of an issue with that plot twist because I watched the prior episode and this one back to back. And when Tosh read Ianto's mind in episode 7, he was still so grief-stricken over Lisa that sometimes he could barely function—yet one episode later he's casually playing Boggle with Jack? Unless a truckload of time passed between these two events, then I kinda have a hard time buying Ianto's emotional 180°. |
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Post by Lola m on Nov 2, 2007 7:23:39 GMT -5
Ianto and Jack? Now, that was a surprise. Nifty! ;D Actually, I had a bit of an issue with that plot twist because I watched the prior episode and this one back to back. And when Tosh read Ianto's mind in episode 7, he was still so grief-stricken over Lisa that sometimes he could barely function—yet one episode later he's casually playing Boggle with Jack? Unless a truckload of time passed between these two events, then I kinda have a hard time buying Ianto's emotional 180°. I guess I saw it more as cause and effect. That he was feeling lost and lonely and despairing inside and needed badly to connect with someone. |
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Post by Onjel on Nov 2, 2007 10:37:30 GMT -5
Ianto and Jack? Now, that was a surprise. Nifty! ;D Actually, I had a bit of an issue with that plot twist because I watched the prior episode and this one back to back. And when Tosh read Ianto's mind in episode 7, he was still so grief-stricken over Lisa that sometimes he could barely function—yet one episode later he's casually playing Boggle with Jack? Unless a truckload of time passed between these two events, then I kinda have a hard time buying Ianto's emotional 180°. What Lola said. In fact, I don't really buy that Ianto is bi-sexual. I think he's young and apt to cling to that which gives him emotional stability. |
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Nov 2, 2007 22:07:50 GMT -5
So there wasn't anything special about the stopwatch, it's just Jack and Ianto bam chicka waa waa.  That's special enough for me . . .  OK, I've *finally* gotten the explanation for what the hell the whole stop watch thing was about. rustydog (who was also wondering), explains about it here: [- In case anybody else is curious, I looked it up and found stopwatch references in some medical and psychological articles. While I still don't know if stopwatch-assisted sexplay is a well-known thing outside of Torchwood, apparently the stopwatch can have something to do with the desire to delay ejaculation. Which is the basic idea of the fic taffimai recommended. Interesting! And really much more creative and engaging than what I was thinking.] |
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Post by Lola m on Nov 5, 2007 13:14:29 GMT -5
That's special enough for me . . . OK, I've *finally* gotten the explanation for what the hell the whole stop watch thing was about rustydog (who was also wondering), explains about it here/ [ETA - In case anybody else is curious, I looked it up and found stopwatch references in some medical and psychological articles. While I still don't know if stopwatch-assisted sexplay is a well-known thing outside of Torchwood, apparently the stopwatch can have something to do with the desire to delay ejaculation. Which is the basic idea of the fic taffimai recommended. Interesting! And really much more creative and engaging than what I was thinking.]Ooooh! Tantric!!  |
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