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Post by Pixi on Apr 20, 2006 7:47:32 GMT -5
Well - I had known for ages Vaughn was coming back - it was almost impossible to avoid in all the columns and I didn't really think he was dead anyway. I remember all the spec on the board that Syd didn't seem upset enough at the funeral, etc.
I enjoyed it all though Syd eluding the baddies for the small amount of time she did on the cargo boat while all preggers was a little stretching it.
I loved, loved, loved the bank interaction with Jack and Irina. That was a great scene. I'm confuzzled over the Grace bit - loved seeing Weiss. Oh my God that was priceless - next time just call me - hee, hee.
Why did we have to have all the weepy Syd looking at baby furniture alone if Vaughn was still alive in the fall though? Total cheat writing.
So much fun to do the Alias dance again.
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Post by Sara on Apr 20, 2006 8:12:13 GMT -5
And no, we have no freakin' idea who the Cardinal is. I think I have it figured out. The Horizon is some sort of Rambaldi-developed steroid that cannot be traced. The Cardinal is Mark McGwire. Don't scoff; if Tom's next move is to get a secret message to "The Giant," I'll be a genius.
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Post by Sara on Apr 20, 2006 8:22:44 GMT -5
Well - I had known for ages Vaughn was coming back - it was almost impossible to avoid in all the columns and I didn't really think he was dead anyway. I remember all the spec on the board that Syd didn't seem upset enough at the funeral, etc. I enjoyed it all though Syd eluding the baddies for the small amount of time she did on the cargo boat while all preggers was a little stretching it. I loved, loved, loved the bank interaction with Jack and Irina. That was a great scene. I'm confuzzled over the Grace bit - loved seeing Weiss. Oh my God that was priceless - next time just call me - hee, hee. Why did we have to have all the weepy Syd looking at baby furniture alone if Vaughn was still alive in the fall though? Total cheat writing. So much fun to do the Alias dance again. Well, I suppose you can fall back on the old standby: hormones. I seem to recall that a couple of times Sydney seemed overwhelmed by the prospect of going through the pregnancy by herself, so that could have just been one of those moments when it got the better of her. Plus there's always the chance that she was acting; she was in a public place, there could have been security cameras, and it was obviously important to make sure everyone believed he was dead. So I'm willing to give this one a pass.
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Post by Pixi on Apr 20, 2006 8:29:50 GMT -5
Well - I had known for ages Vaughn was coming back - it was almost impossible to avoid in all the columns and I didn't really think he was dead anyway. I remember all the spec on the board that Syd didn't seem upset enough at the funeral, etc. I enjoyed it all though Syd eluding the baddies for the small amount of time she did on the cargo boat while all preggers was a little stretching it. I loved, loved, loved the bank interaction with Jack and Irina. That was a great scene. I'm confuzzled over the Grace bit - loved seeing Weiss. Oh my God that was priceless - next time just call me - hee, hee. Why did we have to have all the weepy Syd looking at baby furniture alone if Vaughn was still alive in the fall though? Total cheat writing. So much fun to do the Alias dance again. Well, I suppose you can fall back on the old standby: hormones. I seem to recall that a couple of times Sydney seemed overwhelmed by the prospect of going through the pregnancy by herself, so that could have just been one of those moments when it got the better of her. Plus there's always the chance that she was acting; she was in a public place, there could have been security cameras, and it was obviously important to make sure everyone believed he was dead. So I'm willing to give this one a pass. I'll grant those and I'm not that upset by it, I just think we the viewers were of course supposed to think Vaughn was dead so these scenes are a little cheatworthy. But the hormones/acting could be used as an explanation - I'll go with it. I do think J.J. was focused on What about Brian more in the fall and not as focused on Alias. But I think he's going to give it a great exit so I'll let it pass.
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Post by Karen on Apr 20, 2006 9:30:39 GMT -5
Yeah - she's bad, with a little tiny bit of good. I don't think she's totally evil - maybe 99%. Thanks for backing me up on this one. ;D Well, it's that 1% of non-evil that sometimes makes all the difference in the world. And visa-versa.
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Post by Sara on Apr 20, 2006 9:49:20 GMT -5
Well, I suppose you can fall back on the old standby: hormones. I seem to recall that a couple of times Sydney seemed overwhelmed by the prospect of going through the pregnancy by herself, so that could have just been one of those moments when it got the better of her. Plus there's always the chance that she was acting; she was in a public place, there could have been security cameras, and it was obviously important to make sure everyone believed he was dead. So I'm willing to give this one a pass. I'll grant those and I'm not that upset by it, I just think we the viewers were of course supposed to think Vaughn was dead so these scenes are a little cheatworthy. But the hormones/acting could be used as an explanation - I'll go with it. I do think J.J. was focused on What about Brian more in the fall and not as focused on Alias. But I think he's going to give it a great exit so I'll let it pass. He'd better give it a great exit, or I'll be flying west and going medieval on his scrawny little ass.
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Post by Rachael on Apr 20, 2006 23:59:27 GMT -5
Of course he's still alive. No one EVER dies on Alias. What about Francie? Francie's really dead, right? I was thrilled, but also pissed off that Vaughn was still alive. Because I hate that "I had to hide in order to protect you" thing. 'Cause, clearly, she needs his protection. Or some other reason. Whatever. I mean, Syd knows, and SpyDaddy knows, right, that's what we were supposed to get from "I'll take care of it"? He better have a good excuse for leaving her to have that baby and be abducted by her mother and all.
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Post by Rachael on Apr 21, 2006 0:05:41 GMT -5
Okay, I think it's officially time for me to give up the ghost on my Peyton's not totally evil theory... Ya think? The one I'm pissed/confused about is Irina. I knew she had her own agenda, but I also trusted her enough not to abuse her own daughter to accomplish that agenda. I can't really think of an excuse to justify the abduction. And we haven't forgotten the creepifying nursery, right?
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Post by Sara on Apr 21, 2006 8:08:18 GMT -5
Okay, I think it's officially time for me to give up the ghost on my Peyton's not totally evil theory... Ya think? The one I'm pissed/confused about is Irina. I knew she had her own agenda, but I also trusted her enough not to abuse her own daughter to accomplish that agenda. I can't really think of an excuse to justify the abduction. And we haven't forgotten the creepifying nursery, right? I sure as hell haven't--I think between the nursery (wonder if Prophet Five and the Others used the same decorator...) and P5's obvious interest in ensuring Syd delivered a healthy baby it's safe to presume that Syd's daughter is very important to them. Hmm... I wonder if young Isabel is the "she" who Rambaldi's page 47 was actually referring to, 'cause at this point Isabel definitely has not seen the sun rise over Mount Sebasio in Italy.
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Post by Rob on Apr 21, 2006 11:20:36 GMT -5
Or some other reason. Whatever. I mean, Syd knows, and SpyDaddy knows, right, that's what we were supposed to get from "I'll take care of it"? Yes, they clearly know. I think part of me is hoping more of the inner circle is aware of things as well...specifically, Weiss, Dixon and Marshall. I mean...they care about Vaughn too. Making them go through a grieving process seems pretty cruel, especially considering what they've all been through together over the years. None of the people I mentioned would give Vaughn up, any more than he would them. Plus, it would be even cooler if everyone HAD known the whole time. You know, go team...keeping the secret. I doubt it, though. Jack and Syd probably thought - pragmatically - that things should look as genuine as possible. No doubt, that would be a strong argument...but it still bothers me. I'm reminded of how much I was bothered by Season 5 Buffy, when she and Giles elect not to tell Xander and Willow about Dawn. How hurt they felt when she finally did let them in on it, and her regret over not trusting them in the first place. That was an important scene for me. All I'm saying is, maybe "Alias" could use a scene like that from Syd. They've more than earned her trust at this point. Of course, now that they have to cram 11 episodes' worth of story into 6, I doubt such things will be considered.
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Post by Pixi on Apr 21, 2006 13:53:27 GMT -5
Ya think? The one I'm pissed/confused about is Irina. I knew she had her own agenda, but I also trusted her enough not to abuse her own daughter to accomplish that agenda. I can't really think of an excuse to justify the abduction. And we haven't forgotten the creepifying nursery, right? I sure as hell haven't--I think between the nursery (wonder if Prophet Five and the Others used the same decorator...) and P5's obvious interest in ensuring Syd delivered a healthy baby it's safe to presume that Syd's daughter is very important to them. Hmm... I wonder if young Isabel is the "she" who Rambaldi's page 47 was actually referring to, 'cause at this point Isabel definitely has not seen the sun rise over Mount Sebasio in Italy. This is what I've been thinking too - somehow the baby is Rambaldi related/recreated/cloned/whatever and this is why everyone is invested in a healthy baby. But - I still don't see all the dotted lines.
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Post by Sara on Apr 21, 2006 14:02:43 GMT -5
I sure as hell haven't--I think between the nursery (wonder if Prophet Five and the Others used the same decorator...) and P5's obvious interest in ensuring Syd delivered a healthy baby it's safe to presume that Syd's daughter is very important to them. Hmm... I wonder if young Isabel is the "she" who Rambaldi's page 47 was actually referring to, 'cause at this point Isabel definitely has not seen the sun rise over Mount Sebasio in Italy. This is what I've been thinking too - somehow the baby is Rambaldi related/recreated/cloned/whatever and this is why everyone is invested in a healthy baby. But - I still don't see all the dotted lines. I think at this point we'd need a map at least as big as the one Vaughn showed Syd way back in the second episode of the first season to lay out all the dotted lines.
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Post by Karen on Apr 21, 2006 17:58:32 GMT -5
Okay, I think it's officially time for me to give up the ghost on my Peyton's not totally evil theory... Ya think? The one I'm pissed/confused about is Irina. I knew she had her own agenda, but I also trusted her enough not to abuse her own daughter to accomplish that agenda. I can't really think of an excuse to justify the abduction. And we haven't forgotten the creepifying nursery, right? The only thing that would justify in my mind Irina's torture of Sydney is the fact that somehow the information, or lack of information, that Sydney know in some way protects either her or her and her baby.
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Post by Karen on Apr 21, 2006 18:01:14 GMT -5
I sure as hell haven't--I think between the nursery (wonder if Prophet Five and the Others used the same decorator...) and P5's obvious interest in ensuring Syd delivered a healthy baby it's safe to presume that Syd's daughter is very important to them. Hmm... I wonder if young Isabel is the "she" who Rambaldi's page 47 was actually referring to, 'cause at this point Isabel definitely has not seen the sun rise over Mount Sebasio in Italy. This is what I've been thinking too - somehow the baby is Rambaldi related/recreated/cloned/whatever and this is why everyone is invested in a healthy baby. But - I still don't see all the dotted lines. One (of the many) things that confused me was the 2 different colored pulsing lights that we saw in the sonogram. One was red and one blue.
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Jan 18, 2007 21:21:41 GMT -5
Okay, I think it's officially time for me to give up the ghost on my Peyton's not totally evil theory... Hee, hee. #metoo#
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