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Post by William the Bloody on Oct 25, 2005 16:57:11 GMT -5
Let's get to it, shall we?
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Post by Sue on Oct 25, 2005 18:29:16 GMT -5
Oh most most excellent and Springalicious!
Loved, LOVED the recap of the opening and your repeated pleas for James to show! ;D
And finally, adding your own scenes: ;D ;D
And I definitely agree that he looked quite Fine!
Plus, was his dialogue really 10 steps up from Aquaman's or is it simply all in the delivery?
Then, loved the comment about him not bursting into flames. HA!
and:
(One scene together is all it will take I'm sure and the Lex/Milton slash will be everywhere.)
And I definitely noticed the irony of the quotes as well. It's not as if Clark hasn't been forwarned:
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Oct 25, 2005 18:50:53 GMT -5
Great review Spring. Spoken like a true James fan.
I'd add to significant lines his "Do you know where the greatest supercomputer in the world resides? (Pointing to his head) Right here. It’s the human brain." and his "beware White Knights" bit.
The thing about white knights and the dragon made me think of Spike and The Initiative.
Also, I wanted to point out that my dad appreciated Lois in a bikini shot. I did not appreciate the similar shot of Aquaman. I would have appreciated Fine in a swimsuit shot, as long as it wasn't a speedo. ;D
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Post by SpringSummers on Oct 25, 2005 19:13:32 GMT -5
Oh most most excellent and Springalicious! Loved, LOVED the recap of the opening and your repeated pleas for James to show! ;D I'm glad you enjoyed it, and thanks for the great feedback. That dialogue is stolen right from Out of my Mind, when Harmony is begging Spike to take her in, because she believes Buffy is after her. Overall, I was pleased with the ep and the role for James. I'm looking forward to seeing how it develops!
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Post by SpringSummers on Oct 25, 2005 19:18:21 GMT -5
Great review Spring. Spoken like a true James fan. I'd add to significant lines his "Do you know where the greatest supercomputer in the world resides? (Pointing to his head) Right here. It’s the human brain." and his "beware White Knights" bit. The thing about white knights and the dragon made me think of Spike and The Initiative. Also, I wanted to point out that my dad appreciated Lois in a bikini shot. I did not appreciate the similar shot of Aquaman. I would have appreciated Fine in a swimsuit shot, as long as it wasn't a speedo. ;D Thanks, Liz. And I agree about not really appreciating the Aquaman cheesecake. He just didn't grab me at all. I must disagree however, about the speedo. I think I would like to see that . . . Yes, I agree on the significance of the other lines . . . really, all the lines he had were weighty with foreshadowing - calling Clark a "wayward traveler" and basically giving the impression that he hopes to . . . direct Clark in a very specific way.
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Post by Squeemonster on Oct 25, 2005 19:49:11 GMT -5
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Post by SpringSummers on Oct 25, 2005 20:53:21 GMT -5
My insights into all aspects of James is just amazing, isn't it? Yes, I feel an obligation to speak for all of us who are mindlessly and unashamedly gah-gah over James. I say: Be proud of your cheekbone addled brain! Why hide the feeling? Go with it, baby! It's very love/hate, isn't it? / I'm glad you liked. And thanks truly for the feedback on the recap/review. I really was feeling a little uncertain about how to approach the whole thing. I know zilch about Smallville except what I've learned this season, in 4 eps. But I gambled on the idea that the S'cubies weren't going to care all that much what I knew about Smallville.
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Post by Lola m on Oct 26, 2005 7:44:33 GMT -5
How much did I love this? As much as James loves me I love James! From your titles (He's so Fine, Not moist enough, etc.) to the subtle theme of Not Enough James (I, being the clever lass that I am, was able to correctly interpret your delicate prose styling), this was just a treat. Fun and lovely, Spring. I reapeat: But wait - there's some clever insight into plot and foreshadowing thrown in there at the end! Like good-for-you medicine tucked in among the sugar. Nice (and concise) - simply pointing out the important lines of dialog that together hint at what's to come from the delectable and dualicious Milton Fine.
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Post by SpringSummers on Oct 26, 2005 11:44:53 GMT -5
How much did I love this? As much as James loves me I love James! From your titles (He's so Fine, Not moist enough, etc.) to the subtle theme of Not Enough James (I, being the clever lass that I am, was able to correctly interpret your delicate prose styling), this was just a treat. Fun and lovely, Spring. Thanks, Ms Lola! I knew I could count on someone of your refinement to pick up on all the subtleties. I didn't want to overdo, and overload delicate S'cubie sensibilities. I'm glad the central themes of my essay came through. And so glad I gave you a giggle or two. He's just yummy!
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Post by Karen on Oct 27, 2005 10:52:15 GMT -5
Excellent synopsis, Spring! I was laughing so hard by your quote above, I got caught by my co-worker grinning.....at a Windows Explorer window. (Of course, he's the married guy who got caught printing out pictures of naked women from a dating site, so I don't think he'll squeal. : Anyway, back to your rockin' review. Besides your insightful noticing of the lack of James bits, I also loved your insights into the episode and James' duality in his role as Milton Fine. Of course, he makes Clark look as dense as brick, but Clark has other things on his mind, as most teenagers do. Can't wait to see MF's (what unfortunate initials! : introduction to Lex and how he intends to 'play' him. Again.... . Thank you for your obsession dedication to all things James.
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Oct 27, 2005 13:27:15 GMT -5
TWOP Recap Quotage of JM's scenes. A lot of people here follow TWOP anyway, but I thought it merited posting. I tend to like their recaps, when they're not bitter, that is, but if people don't like it, let me know and I shall cease and desist. A large glass building sits behind a "Central A&M Kansas" sign. Dude, we totally partied with some girls from Central A&M Kansas. They brought their own roofies, so, yeah. Right on. Party schoooooool! Hey, it's James Marsters! Wasn't he on some show or something? Anyhoo, he's got his brown hair combed back and he speaks in an American accent. He's at a podium in front of a round lecture hall. He asks his class if they know where the most powerful supercomputer resides, and then points to his own temple. "Right here," he says. "It's the human brain." I'm not entirely sure he's talking about the individual brains of each class member. He says we only use 10% of it. Less if you write for the show. Oh, come on, I'm kidding, guys. Don't be mad. Here's some flowers. You know I love you, right, Tina Turner?
Clark Kent, backpack slung over his shoulder, tries to sneak into class late. Couldn't he do it with his superpowers and not be detected? "Good morning, Mr. Kent!" the teacher says cheerfully, rolling his eyes. He asks if they started too early for him. "Sorry. I kinda got lost," Clark says. The prof re-introduces himself as "Professor Milton Fine" ("Oh, Milton, you're so Fine, you're so Fine you blow our mind, hey Marsters!"), and exposits that his class is an intro to world history. First lesson: It's long. He says that, before we delve into Greeks, Romans, and Spartans (ooh, the gay world history trilogy!), he wants to talk about the word "History." He says that history isn't about facts; it's about the context and who is telling the story. "What is history?" he asks, then, pointing, "What is her story?" What's this guy's story? I already like him more than I like Lois. He asks "Mr. Kent" about his story and how he'll affect the world around him for generations to come. All the students, who sit with laptops and microphones like they're in the U.N., look bored and don't really pay much attention to Clark. Clark says he's not sure you can really know that at eighteen. Professor SoFine says, "Tell that to Alexander the Great." Aw, geez. This shit again? Or, SoFine says, "Lex Luthor." SoFine says that Lex has turned his father's agribusiness into a leading defense contractor. He did? How did we miss that? "He's gone from feeding people to killing them," SoFine lectures. Ah, I miss radical college professors. SoFine says Lex's story is that he's a white knight who put a small Kansas town on the map. "Beware of white knights, people," SoFine warns. Why did they save all the good dialogue for this guy? SoFine, returning to the podium, says that white knights don't slay dragons; they train them for their own dark purposes. This whole speech is really going to put a damper on my next World of Warcraft session. SoFine brings up Hitler, Stalin, and Napoleon. "Lex is not a saint. But I don't think you can put him in the same league as those guys," Clark blurts. My wife says that Marsters, with his head at that sideways angle, "looks like a little elf." SoFine likes Clark's honest opinion. Is it love?
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A&M campus. SoFine is leaving a building when Clark comes up behind him, saying that they got off on the wrong foot and that he wants to apologize. SoFine, quite a bit smaller than Clark, says that if you're going to be late, you should do it with conviction. I gotta remember that one. Clark asks how SoFine knew his name. The professor asks what Clark did on his first day at campus. Clark got his picture taken for his ID. SoFine says that those pictures are in a database he studies to familiarize himself with students before classes start. He says it helps the learning process. This guy cares! SoFine asks how long Clark's been friends with Lex, an assumption he deduced from Clark's defense of his white knight. Clark says it's a long story, but that Lex isn't the man SoFine thinks. SoFine quotes Groucho Marx on honesty: to know if a man's honest, ask him. If he says yes, he's crooked. Clark says that he would think a professor would quote Karl Marx, not Groucho. Ouch, Clark, it hurts us when you try to be smart like that. The professor, wearing a blazer and jeans with a cool untucked shirt, says, "German philosophy is easy. Comedy is hard." I...I love him. Out of nowhere, SoFine offers Clark a job as a research assistant. He's working on a book about LuthorCorp, and says it would be a chance for Clark to find out the truth about Lex. Clark says he's not looking for a job. SoFine says the thing worse than speaking the truth is uncovering it. Clark is going to need about a year to mull that one over.
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A&M. Clark enters the lecture hall, which is empty except for Professor SoFine, who is sitting in front of a laptop. SoFine says he hopes Clark didn't come to apologize if he's dropping the class. Clark says that SoFine was right about Lex. "Of course I was," SoFine says. He tells Clark he's an educator and that he'll never lie to Clark. He says that truth is his life's work. Clark asks if it's not too late to take the research assistant position. SoFine says he doesn't want someone who'll change his mind. Clark says he can't sit back and watch anymore. He wants to help expose the truth about LuthorCorp. SoFine stands and says he expects his research assistant to be smart, thorough, and show up to class every day. Wow. 1 for 3 at best. Clark says he can guarantee it. SoFine goes a little too heavy here and says that every decision has an effect on the sum of a man's life. Dude, it's a college assistant job at A&M. Try not to get too full of yourself. SoFine says that Clark made the right decision.
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Post by leftylady on Oct 27, 2005 18:03:30 GMT -5
Spring, that was hysterical. I laughed myself silly. I taped the show but haven't watched it yet, but thanks to your experienced eye will know what parts (the James parts of course) to look for and what to hurry through.
After a couple of episodes with promos that included James but then NO JAMES when they aired, I wasn't taking any chances at being fooled again. At last, no more teasing us, James to view and enjoy.
But you missed the best part, at the end of the show the promo for this week, apparently a Halloween episode with bite, has James saying something like, "now, Clark, there really aren't any vampires!. Looking forward to what you do with that line!!!!
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Post by SpringSummers on Oct 27, 2005 20:11:56 GMT -5
Excellent synopsis, Spring! I was laughing so hard by your quote above, I got caught by my co-worker grinning.....at a Windows Explorer window. (Of course, he's the married guy who got caught printing out pictures of naked women from a dating site, so I don't think he'll squeal. : Anyway, back to your rockin' review. Besides your insightful noticing of the lack of James bits, I also loved your insights into the episode and James' duality in his role as Milton Fine. Of course, he makes Clark look as dense as brick, but Clark has other things on his mind, as most teenagers do. Can't wait to see MF's (what unfortunate initials! : introduction to Lex and how he intends to 'play' him. Again.... . Thank you for your obsession dedication to all things James. Hee on the "unfortunate initials." I hadn't noticed this. Thanks for the feedback, Karen. Glad I gave you some giggles with my dedication to James.
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Post by SpringSummers on Oct 27, 2005 20:14:51 GMT -5
TWOP Recap Quotage of JM's scenes. A lot of people here follow TWOP anyway, but I thought it merited posting. I tend to like their recaps, when they're not bitter, that is, but if people don't like it, let me know and I shall cease and desist. A large glass building sits behind a "Central A&M Kansas" sign. Dude, we totally partied with some girls from Central A&M Kansas. They brought their own roofies, so, yeah. Right on. Party schoooooool! Hey, it's James Marsters! Wasn't he on some show or something? Anyhoo, he's got his brown hair combed back and he speaks in an American accent. He's at a podium in front of a round lecture hall. He asks his class if they know where the most powerful supercomputer resides, and then points to his own temple. "Right here," he says. "It's the human brain." I'm not entirely sure he's talking about the individual brains of each class member. He says we only use 10% of it. Less if you write for the show. Oh, come on, I'm kidding, guys. Don't be mad. Here's some flowers. You know I love you, right, Tina Turner?
Clark Kent, backpack slung over his shoulder, tries to sneak into class late. Couldn't he do it with his superpowers and not be detected? "Good morning, Mr. Kent!" the teacher says cheerfully, rolling his eyes. He asks if they started too early for him. "Sorry. I kinda got lost," Clark says. The prof re-introduces himself as "Professor Milton Fine" ("Oh, Milton, you're so Fine, you're so Fine you blow our mind, hey Marsters!"), and exposits that his class is an intro to world history. First lesson: It's long. He says that, before we delve into Greeks, Romans, and Spartans (ooh, the gay world history trilogy!), he wants to talk about the word "History." He says that history isn't about facts; it's about the context and who is telling the story. "What is history?" he asks, then, pointing, "What is her story?" What's this guy's story? I already like him more than I like Lois. He asks "Mr. Kent" about his story and how he'll affect the world around him for generations to come. All the students, who sit with laptops and microphones like they're in the U.N., look bored and don't really pay much attention to Clark. Clark says he's not sure you can really know that at eighteen. Professor SoFine says, "Tell that to Alexander the Great." Aw, geez. This shit again? Or, SoFine says, "Lex Luthor." SoFine says that Lex has turned his father's agribusiness into a leading defense contractor. He did? How did we miss that? "He's gone from feeding people to killing them," SoFine lectures. Ah, I miss radical college professors. SoFine says Lex's story is that he's a white knight who put a small Kansas town on the map. "Beware of white knights, people," SoFine warns. Why did they save all the good dialogue for this guy? SoFine, returning to the podium, says that white knights don't slay dragons; they train them for their own dark purposes. This whole speech is really going to put a damper on my next World of Warcraft session. SoFine brings up Hitler, Stalin, and Napoleon. "Lex is not a saint. But I don't think you can put him in the same league as those guys," Clark blurts. My wife says that Marsters, with his head at that sideways angle, "looks like a little elf." SoFine likes Clark's honest opinion. Is it love?
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A&M campus. SoFine is leaving a building when Clark comes up behind him, saying that they got off on the wrong foot and that he wants to apologize. SoFine, quite a bit smaller than Clark, says that if you're going to be late, you should do it with conviction. I gotta remember that one. Clark asks how SoFine knew his name. The professor asks what Clark did on his first day at campus. Clark got his picture taken for his ID. SoFine says that those pictures are in a database he studies to familiarize himself with students before classes start. He says it helps the learning process. This guy cares! SoFine asks how long Clark's been friends with Lex, an assumption he deduced from Clark's defense of his white knight. Clark says it's a long story, but that Lex isn't the man SoFine thinks. SoFine quotes Groucho Marx on honesty: to know if a man's honest, ask him. If he says yes, he's crooked. Clark says that he would think a professor would quote Karl Marx, not Groucho. Ouch, Clark, it hurts us when you try to be smart like that. The professor, wearing a blazer and jeans with a cool untucked shirt, says, "German philosophy is easy. Comedy is hard." I...I love him. Out of nowhere, SoFine offers Clark a job as a research assistant. He's working on a book about LuthorCorp, and says it would be a chance for Clark to find out the truth about Lex. Clark says he's not looking for a job. SoFine says the thing worse than speaking the truth is uncovering it. Clark is going to need about a year to mull that one over.
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A&M. Clark enters the lecture hall, which is empty except for Professor SoFine, who is sitting in front of a laptop. SoFine says he hopes Clark didn't come to apologize if he's dropping the class. Clark says that SoFine was right about Lex. "Of course I was," SoFine says. He tells Clark he's an educator and that he'll never lie to Clark. He says that truth is his life's work. Clark asks if it's not too late to take the research assistant position. SoFine says he doesn't want someone who'll change his mind. Clark says he can't sit back and watch anymore. He wants to help expose the truth about LuthorCorp. SoFine stands and says he expects his research assistant to be smart, thorough, and show up to class every day. Wow. 1 for 3 at best. Clark says he can guarantee it. SoFine goes a little too heavy here and says that every decision has an effect on the sum of a man's life. Dude, it's a college assistant job at A&M. Try not to get too full of yourself. SoFine says that Clark made the right decision.That was a fun read. Thanks for sharing it. I have no problem with you posting these here, Liz . . . though if it does get bitter, then, like you, I'd rather not read it. But I trust you completely on recognizing that. This is funny without the arrogance and bitterness that is characteristic of some of the other stuff over there.
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Post by SpringSummers on Oct 27, 2005 20:17:02 GMT -5
Spring, that was hysterical. I laughed myself silly. I taped the show but haven't watched it yet, but thanks to your experienced eye will know what parts (the James parts of course) to look for and what to hurry through. After a couple of episodes with promos that included James but then NO JAMES when they aired, I wasn't taking any chances at being fooled again. At last, no more teasing us, James to view and enjoy. But you missed the best part, at the end of the show the promo for this week, apparently a Halloween episode with bite, has James saying something like, "now, Clark, there really aren't any vampires!. Looking forward to what you do with that line!!!! Thanks for letting me know you got some laughs, leftylady. Yes, there was actual James in the episode. Hooray! I just finished watching the "Halloween/vampire" Smallville episode, and must think on the write up for this week.
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