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Post by Lola m on Jun 9, 2006 21:28:19 GMT -5
Hello!
These smiley things are great! #wavey#
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Post by Rachael on Jun 10, 2006 10:20:14 GMT -5
NOOOOOO!Jack! He's too pretty to die! I was gonna take him home, make him my pet. I mean, I was spoiled for the Doctor, but...Jack....
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Post by Rachael on Jun 10, 2006 10:32:05 GMT -5
NOOOOOO!Jack! He's too pretty to die! I was gonna take him home, make him my pet. I mean, I was spoiled for the Doctor, but...Jack.... Whaddya know? I was right. He IS too pretty to die. That was almost worse, though. He looked so sad at being left behind. And WHY did the Doctor leave him behind? Did he not know that Rose brought him back?
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Post by Rachael on Jun 10, 2006 10:34:05 GMT -5
Okay, then. I'm dissatisfied with the way the Doctor met his end. Bit of a cheat, really. I mean, Rose didn't die of the energy, why should he? She carried it much longer than he did, and his little "I absorbed it" bit was unconvincing. He didn't absorb it all, 'cause I saw lots of it leave. I just sorta feel that, if they were gonna kill him, he should have gone out with more drama and flair. I mean, he was a drama and flair kind of Doctor. Sad now.
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Post by Rachael on Jun 10, 2006 10:37:33 GMT -5
Ah, Mickey... good ears. Dalek Emperor doesn't know the Doctor very well. Shiva. It makes him Shiva, I guess. Pretty sure the Emperor was going for "Satan", though. I find it interesting, in at least a few ways, that when you make new Daleks out of humans (and hey - I called it, way back when "Dalek" aired, when I was afraid it would go to Las Vegas and start making new Daleks), that the thing they pick up from humanity is...religion. And it makes them insane. And even more dangerous.
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Post by Rachael on Jun 10, 2006 10:42:01 GMT -5
Oy! Choice to kill all or kill none. All the Daleks and humans, or let the humans fall to the Daleks. Just like the Time Lords - die and take them with you. I was sitting there, thinking...would I do it? The logic is impeccable. The human race was going to die, regardless - hell, large parts of it had already died, by the time the Doctor made his choice. So - kill them all and take the Daleks with you, or let them live and let the Daleks kill them and make Daleks of them? I think I might have killed humanity. Or, rather, I wouldn't have been able to, and felt really bad about being such a coward. Because...it was the right thing to do, to murder everyone on earth. But...to actually push the button? And SERIOUSLY with the god out of the machine, this time.
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Post by Rachael on Jun 10, 2006 10:46:06 GMT -5
Ah. You have to get them right in the eye stalk. Romance on the front lines. Doomed, but still. Rose's mum! Woot! Go you, with the big ol' truck and all. Poor Lynda. Just waiting for them to break in. And then, eeeeeeep! Floating Daleks! So, it's like there was a lo-jack on the TARDIS? And now the TARDIS went into Rose? Did the TARDIS send the messages? Captain Jack go boom. I knew it was gonna happen, and he went out all noble and stuff. But still . . . bummer. See, now, HE got a good death. Of course, he didn't stay dead. Hey! Do you suppose Rose brought back all them folks the Daleks just melted on Earth? And hell...what about the Time Lords? If it was me, and I was the TARDIS incarnate and Rose at the same time, I'd have given the Doctor a present. Also...oy, what a kiss. Been waiting for THAT for weeks. Too bad he's, you know, DEAD now. Okay, not dead. There could always be a "Multiple Doctors" episode where they pull him out of his own time stream and bring him back. But, still.
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Post by Rachael on Jun 10, 2006 10:49:52 GMT -5
I want to see you become like me. The Doctor a coward? Did he want to die? Trap? Rose is the TARDIS, the TARDIS is Rose. Sort of. Message sent to Rose . . . . by Rose. Well, by TARDIS!Rose. "You are tiny." Well, yeah, to the Time Vortex, I imagine everything is tiny. Everything dies. Opposite of "everyone lives" from The Doctor Dances. "Empty. Scattered." Ah! She brought Jack back! Yays!! "You can't control life and death." "But I can." It's like Willow at the end of season 6. I got that, too. But I felt more like it was Willow at the end of Season 7. Except for the not knowing how to let it go. I have to say, though, I like the Doctor's method of talking her down better than Xander's.
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Post by Matthew on Jun 10, 2006 11:23:47 GMT -5
NOOOOOO!Jack! He's too pretty to die! I was gonna take him home, make him my pet. I mean, I was spoiled for the Doctor, but...Jack.... Whaddya know? I was right. He IS too pretty to die. That was almost worse, though. He looked so sad at being left behind. And WHY did the Doctor leave him behind? Did he not know that Rose brought him back? But as I think, Lola, said, that's a normal Companion's "good-bye" isn't it? (Follows is a spoiler for a five-minute teaser piece the Beeb aired around the end of November of last year: invisitexted. If you want the actual file, talk to Shan or Riff: it's actually quite small)
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Post by Matthew on Jun 10, 2006 11:27:35 GMT -5
Okay, then. I'm dissatisfied with the way the Doctor met his end. Bit of a cheat, really. I mean, Rose didn't die of the energy, why should he? She carried it much longer than he did, and his little "I absorbed it" bit was unconvincing. He didn't absorb it all, 'cause I saw lots of it leave. I just sorta feel that, if they were gonna kill him, he should have gone out with more drama and flair. I mean, he was a drama and flair kind of Doctor. Sad now. I agree. Nine took HUGE bites out of life. What was it he told Adam? "Only way is to jump right in: use the wrong verb, wind up kissing complete strangers..." I was hoping for a couple more seasons of Eccleston as The Doctor: he's become my favourite, about.
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Post by Matthew on Jun 10, 2006 11:36:36 GMT -5
Ah, Mickey... good ears. Dalek Emperor doesn't know the Doctor very well. Shiva. It makes him Shiva, I guess. Pretty sure the Emperor was going for "Satan", though. D'oh! There I go, again, overthinking the answer. Yup, you called it! "Snortle!" on the red: My dad, who'd seen the episode before, was walking through the room when the scene in the Emperor's chamber was going on, and said "Why's the Doctor fighting all the slot machines again? Didn't he beat them before?" I don't know that your average, atheistic dalek could be considered "sane" by any stretch of the imagination, really, but whoo boy, Religion does seem to have done a number on them. Wasn't the original form of the Kaleds humanoid in shape? It makes sense, as you say, that a dalek could go on a recruiting drive using humans as raw material. And maybe the Emperor went a little nuts like the one in "Dalek" after his first contact with a human, and gathered some human emotions the way it did, but it processed it differently. Absorbed our religious tendencies, and decided it was god. *shrug* Novels, radio plays, and fanfic, oh my!
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Post by Matthew on Jun 10, 2006 11:39:29 GMT -5
Oy! Choice to kill all or kill none. All the Daleks and humans, or let the humans fall to the Daleks. Just like the Time Lords - die and take them with you. I was sitting there, thinking...would I do it? The logic is impeccable. The human race was going to die, regardless - hell, large parts of it had already died, by the time the Doctor made his choice. So - kill them all and take the Daleks with you, or let them live and let the Daleks kill them and make Daleks of them? I think I might have killed humanity. Or, rather, I wouldn't have been able to, and felt really bad about being such a coward. Because...it was the right thing to do, to murder everyone on earth. But...to actually push the button? And SERIOUSLY with the god out of the machine, this time. That's one of the strongest moments in the whole series, to me. I'm thinking that he didn't push the button then because some subconscious part of that omniscient awareness knew that the "Bad Wolf" had something more to do: that the story wasn't over yet. And besides, he IS the type to lunge at it at the last moment, going "whatthehell" I agree, though: hell of a decision.
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Post by Matthew on Jun 10, 2006 11:41:30 GMT -5
I want to see you become like me. The Doctor a coward? Did he want to die? Trap? Rose is the TARDIS, the TARDIS is Rose. Sort of. Message sent to Rose . . . . by Rose. Well, by TARDIS!Rose. "You are tiny." Well, yeah, to the Time Vortex, I imagine everything is tiny. Everything dies. Opposite of "everyone lives" from The Doctor Dances. "Empty. Scattered." Ah! She brought Jack back! Yays!! "You can't control life and death." "But I can." It's like Willow at the end of season 6. I got that, too. But I felt more like it was Willow at the end of Season 7. Except for the not knowing how to let it go. I have to say, though, I like the Doctor's method of talking her down better than Xander's. Oh! When I first read her post, I read it as "Season 7" (because I see what I want to, and because it agreed with my own ideas): how goddesslike she was, pure and white and shining: but I see where Lola was coming from in the "I feel it all, all the pain, all the weight of the intolerable universe" thing, too. Cool!
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Post by Lola m on Jun 10, 2006 17:51:49 GMT -5
I got that, too. But I felt more like it was Willow at the end of Season 7. Except for the not knowing how to let it go. I have to say, though, I like the Doctor's method of talking her down better than Xander's. Oh! When I first read her post, I read it as "Season 7" (because I see what I want to, and because it agreed with my own ideas): how goddesslike she was, pure and white and shining: but I see where Lola was coming from in the "I feel it all, all the pain, all the weight of the intolerable universe" thing, too. Cool! You're right about the reason for the season 6 feel for me. It was the way she seemed to be collapsing from the pain of all the beings she could feel now. So I was thinking that this was why the Doctor needed to take the energy from her and why he died of it. That if he hadn't, she'd have . . . like, imploded? From all the absorbed pain? I mean, she would also have been feeling all the good too, but together it would have been too much?
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Jun 10, 2006 20:14:29 GMT -5
Captain Jack to the rescue
There's an emperor Dalek
they went off to fight a bigger war...The time war
The time war as a myth
The Oncoming Storm
I'm the Doctor and if there's one thing I can do, it's talk. Hee.
5 million (billion?) languages
Love the look on Rose's face
New Daleks created from humans. Half human.
concept of blasphemy. Religion as the essence of humanity?
that makes them insane.
You hate your own existence and that makes them more deadly than ever. Talking more about himself?
Level 500 again
Lynda has a crush...And Rose is jealous
You are worth fighting for. I bet he says that to everybody.
Aw, he kisses them both...
The daleks disappeared thousands of years ago.
The TARDIS and changing history
The Doctor just kisses Rose on the forehead.
Emergency Program 1
Not just a good life, but a fantastic life.
All humans will die by your hand. So it's happening again. Is this what happened last time and why all the Timelords were wiped out?
If I am God, what does that make you, Doctor?
Die as a human or live as a Dalek
Bad Wolf: not part of the Dalek's design
200000 years from now is now.
Is that it? That's what the rest of us do.
It was a better life. A better way of living your life.
You've got to start living your own life. The kind he can never have.
BAD WOLF!!!
This angelic music is hysterical
How does Rose figure that it's a message ?
There's nothing left for me here. Mickey takes that well.
Death Shock: OK, that was freaky.
You ARE the Weakest Link: BWAH HAH HAH!!!!!!!!!
Dad wouldn't give up.
And she tells Jackie about meeting Dad.
Asking her out for a drink. hee.
Yay, Jackie comes through.
But Captain Jack's to pretty to die!
I want you to be like me, the Great Exterminator.
coward or killer? coward anyday.
Dude. Superpowers. Or Rose isn't herself. Rose is the Bad Wolf. Or the TARDIS is the Bad Wolf? I guessed that like a couple seconds before she said that.
So the Doctor knows past, present, and future, all inclusive. So he's like the Guardian of Forever. or Paul-Maud'Dib after he saw through the Water of Life.
So, is Rose a Timelord now? No, OK. But that's got to have some lasting effect.
Yep, Captain Jack is too pretty to die.
Aw, a kiss.
Ah, so that's how it happens.
I knew that the Doctor was going to change over, but I didn't know it was at the very end of the season. There were quite a few times throughout where I thought it was going to happen.
So, it all did tie together in the end.
The Dalek's were more impressive, the death shock thing where you see the skeleton was well done, but I'm still having trouble taking the Dalek's seriously.
The music was hi-lariously melodramaticly overdone.
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