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Post by Riff on Oct 1, 2006 11:42:59 GMT -5
Peek a boo! What do you think I'm going to do, flap you to death? Stroke her. You can stop right there, Chip. Hee! Woops! *shudder* ;D
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Post by Riff on Oct 1, 2006 11:44:10 GMT -5
Ok, everyone! Let's get this New Earth orbiting! ;D It looks pretty good, doesn't it? Cassandra! She's back! So eepsome and yet fun to see Cassandra again! "He's my pet"?! I'd rather have Spike as my pet. Huh. Evolving as opposed to just being pickled and preserved. And Cassandra doesn't want to just be preserved. Stealing Rose's body - bad Cassandra, bad! The Cat-nun is very very pretty.Disturbingly so. I mean, she's a nun.
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Post by Riff on Oct 1, 2006 11:51:12 GMT -5
Loved the look on his face after Rossandra kissed him. I like Chip. He's a faithful clone. " Not real people. They're specially grown." Huh. In defence of the cat ladies, I get the impression they don't believe that the "flesh" is self-aware: "Sister Calvin's written a thesis on the migration of sentience. She calls it 'The echo of life'. It's well-worth a read." I'd like to read it!
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Post by Riff on Oct 1, 2006 11:55:00 GMT -5
The flesh is free - run free, flesh, run free! It looks like Night of the Living Dead. Same clumsily slow chase moves. Too too funny w/ Cassandra in the Doctor. "Look at me - I'm a man! Oh, num! Two hearts. I'm beating out a samba!" ;D ;D ;D "Goodness me, I'm a man. Yum. So many parts. And hardly used!" ;D
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Post by Riff on Oct 1, 2006 11:57:10 GMT -5
Ah. The Face of Bo. He's all better. Rejuvanated and ready for another million years, eh? And those words...
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Post by Riff on Oct 1, 2006 11:58:28 GMT -5
Heeee! ;D I loved her "oh my God, I'm a walking doodle!" And then the sweet moment when she tells herself she's beautiful. Oh yeah. Nothing like taking someone perfectly dislikable and rehabbing them just enough so you want to weep for them. A radical concept.
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Post by Riff on Oct 1, 2006 11:59:38 GMT -5
I love the kitty-nuns. I think they are quite sexy, even with the whole "being nuns" thing, of course. And a side note: I may be on crack, but I thought that the big green crescent being the symbol for hospitals was a tribute to the Green Cross and the Green Crescent organization in Canticle for Liebowitz: that books' futuristic equivalent of the Red Cross and Red Crescent... I have no idea what you're talking about.
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Post by Riff on Oct 1, 2006 12:06:22 GMT -5
Was it just me reading into it or was that a fairly clear metaphor for at least one side of the 'using discarded embryos for stem cell research' debate? Knowing the writer's politics, I'd say no. It's actually more likely that he's interested in the drama of the situation rather than any external commentary. I think the important difference is that in "New Earth" we're dealing with aware human beings, not potential human beings. We could draw parallels with some other issues. The sale of organs from "donours" in the developing world, for instance: an invisible race of people serving the more fortunate.
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Post by Riff on Oct 1, 2006 12:07:58 GMT -5
Um. Okay. Ridiculous. However, I did enjoy Habeus Corpses Redux. When all else fails, bring on the zombies!
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Post by Riff on Oct 1, 2006 12:11:43 GMT -5
After that sequence of events, I'm thinking I'd better put in my ear plugs tonight so the sound of Rachael's brain exploding doesn't wake me... I've got this pursed lips thing going on that isn't pretty. Okay, does anyone else totally not buy Cassandra's sudden turnaround? She went from "I don't want to die" to "It's okay" in 90 seconds. She'd really grab the first body she saw at the party. Like that of her younger self, for instance? That occurred to me immediately when I saw the ep. She wanted to be her younger self, anyway, and here she could do it and save her life in the process. She dies in the arms of the self she truly wanted to be? I wouldn't be surprised if she turns up (in a more three-dimensional form) again.
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Post by Riff on Oct 1, 2006 12:14:26 GMT -5
Um. Okay. Ridiculous. However, I did enjoy Habeus Corpses Redux. BTW, I'd say this is the weakest ep of the season. There's good stuff on the way.
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Post by Riff on Oct 1, 2006 12:16:08 GMT -5
I've got this pursed lips thing going on that isn't pretty. Okay, does anyone else totally not buy Cassandra's sudden turnaround? She went from "I don't want to die" to "It's okay" in 90 seconds. She'd really grab the first body she saw at the party. Yeah. But maybe being inside Chip's mind did something to her to make her more "human", or to at least let her humanity surface. Also, you could see some of the horror in her face at the "growing humans for cures" at points during the show, so she might have been moving there. And, her time in one of the grown humans did awaken compassion for their loneliness and need to be touched, so maybe, she was coming to the point where she could accept the finality of her existance after all. Or, maybe it was just that they ran out of time and needed to wrap up her plot line licketysplit. ;D As Rachael said in TCI thread, it's too all too rushed. I'm suspicious.
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Post by Rachael on Oct 1, 2006 14:50:20 GMT -5
I've got this pursed lips thing going on that isn't pretty. Okay, does anyone else totally not buy Cassandra's sudden turnaround? She went from "I don't want to die" to "It's okay" in 90 seconds. She'd really grab the first body she saw at the party. Like that of her younger self, for instance? That occurred to me immediately when I saw the ep. She wanted to be her younger self, anyway, and here she could do it and save her life in the process. She dies in the arms of the self she truly wanted to be? I wouldn't be surprised if she turns up (in a more three-dimensional form) again. Yeah, see, THAT'S what I was thinking. She's smart, and a bit amoral. She's not dead - she's grabbed her own body and is living her life all over again.
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Post by Lola m on Oct 2, 2006 7:47:50 GMT -5
Was it just me reading into it or was that a fairly clear metaphor for at least one side of the 'using discarded embryos for stem cell research' debate? Nah. I'd say it was more of a "is it a good idea to grow whole people to use as lab rats?" kind of thing. Plus, I want to know, if they were grow in big containers and stayed there all their lives, how did they speak the same language and move and understand things and so on? But that's all nitpicky stuff that one must let go of when watching Dr Who, I know. ;D
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Post by Lola m on Oct 2, 2006 7:49:57 GMT -5
After that sequence of events, I'm thinking I'd better put in my ear plugs tonight so the sound of Rachael's brain exploding doesn't wake me... I've got this pursed lips thing going on that isn't pretty. Okay, does anyone else totally not buy Cassandra's sudden turnaround? She went from "I don't want to die" to "It's okay" in 90 seconds. She'd really grab the first body she saw at the party. I think it was supposed to be a "I was inside the lab vat person and felt what they feel and now I've been shocked down to the bottom of my vapid little soul" kind of thing. Plus, I wonder if she wasn't as bad off quite yet as she was playing she was and zapped herself into someone the minute the Doctor and Rose were gone.
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