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Post by Rachael on Sept 10, 2007 17:15:18 GMT -5
Tennant broke my heart here. He did a great job. I found myself a little miffed, though, when he asked Joan to join him as his companion, the two of them starting over. I thought back to his instruction to Martha not to "let him abandon" her and wondered just what would have happened had Joan said yes? I know! I was all, "He's turned into a slut! New Companion every week!" Jeez. Multiple rebounds is NOT the way to get over Rose. 'Course, Ten's always been a bit of a...well, let's say he reminds me of a guy with commitment issues. I mean, Rose, Mme. de Pompadour, Martha, the Matron...there's always a new pretty to distract him from the one he's getting too attached to. Even when it was Rose - he didn't admit to his feelings until it was too late, and even then she didn't get to hear him say it.
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Post by Queen E on Jan 24, 2008 23:47:28 GMT -5
Tennant broke my heart here. He did a great job. I found myself a little miffed, though, when he asked Joan to join him as his companion, the two of them starting over. I thought back to his instruction to Martha not to "let him abandon" her and wondered just what would have happened had Joan said yes? I know! I was all, "He's turned into a slut! New Companion every week!" Jeez. Multiple rebounds is NOT the way to get over Rose. 'Course, Ten's always been a bit of a...well, let's say he reminds me of a guy with commitment issues. I mean, Rose, Mme. de Pompadour, Martha, the Matron...there's always a new pretty to distract him from the one he's getting too attached to. Even when it was Rose - he didn't admit to his feelings until it was too late, and even then she didn't get to hear him say it. Speaking of Rose, I was just rewatching these two episodes for the first time, and it occurs to me how important Martha really is in this story line. I mean, you have The Doctor taking her to the past to meet an important literary figure (The Unquiet Dead/The Shakespeare Code), and then taking her to New New York (New Earth/Gridlock), Daleks, a spaceship in self-destruction (The Impossible Planet/42)...this is really the first time, in my opinion, that it is really Martha's adventure, and Martha's story. It's interesting to contemplate what a completely different story it would have been if Rose was still his Companion as opposed to Martha. Would Rose have been a subordinate, a dinner lady? Would he have fallen for her rather than Nurse Redfern? Would Rose have had the strength to demand the Doctor back? Just something to think about...and be pleased that they finally focused on what Martha brings to the table on a deeper level.
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Post by Onjel on Jan 27, 2008 0:32:49 GMT -5
I know! I was all, "He's turned into a slut! New Companion every week!" Jeez. Multiple rebounds is NOT the way to get over Rose. 'Course, Ten's always been a bit of a...well, let's say he reminds me of a guy with commitment issues. I mean, Rose, Mme. de Pompadour, Martha, the Matron...there's always a new pretty to distract him from the one he's getting too attached to. Even when it was Rose - he didn't admit to his feelings until it was too late, and even then she didn't get to hear him say it. Speaking of Rose, I was just rewatching these two episodes for the first time, and it occurs to me how important Martha really is in this story line. I mean, you have The Doctor taking her to the past to meet an important literary figure (The Unquiet Dead/The Shakespeare Code), and then taking her to New New York (New Earth/Gridlock), Daleks, a spaceship in self-destruction (The Impossible Planet/42)...this is really the first time, in my opinion, that it is really Martha's adventure, and Martha's story. It's interesting to contemplate what a completely different story it would have been if Rose was still his Companion as opposed to Martha. Would Rose have been a subordinate, a dinner lady? Would he have fallen for her rather than Nurse Redfern? Would Rose have had the strength to demand the Doctor back? Just something to think about...and be pleased that they finally focused on what Martha brings to the table on a deeper level. It depends. Rose's accent isn't one that would have allowed her to be part of the upper classes in that time period, I don't believe. (I could be wrong, not being British, but you know how "Masterpiece Theater" influences one. ) But, her appearance and mien might have broken that barrier and she might have "passed" somewhat. At least, she might have made middle class. I don't think she would have been a scullery maid or some such thing and I do think that the Doctor would have had a difficult time ignoring her and putting her "in her place". Rose not demand the Doctor back is unlikely. I think she would have been strong enough. Especially since she had more time with him than Martha had at that point and was very sure of her place with him. Martha knew she was the "rebound" companion, or at least believed that, so maybe there was a bit of lacking in her confidence in the relationship. For what it's worth, I was not happy at the Doctor pushing Martha aside. Maybe that influenced her more than expected and allowed her to leave him to go to Torchwood? I liked each of them, Martha and Rose for different reasons. But, I think I'm a little fonder of Martha just because of what she brings to the story that is so different from Rose.
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Post by beccaelizabeth on Jan 27, 2008 8:27:49 GMT -5
I know! I was all, "He's turned into a slut! New Companion every week!" Jeez. Multiple rebounds is NOT the way to get over Rose. 'Course, Ten's always been a bit of a...well, let's say he reminds me of a guy with commitment issues. I mean, Rose, Mme. de Pompadour, Martha, the Matron...there's always a new pretty to distract him from the one he's getting too attached to. Even when it was Rose - he didn't admit to his feelings until it was too late, and even then she didn't get to hear him say it. Speaking of Rose, I was just rewatching these two episodes for the first time, and it occurs to me how important Martha really is in this story line. I mean, you have The Doctor taking her to the past to meet an important literary figure (The Unquiet Dead/The Shakespeare Code), and then taking her to New New York (New Earth/Gridlock), Daleks, a spaceship in self-destruction (The Impossible Planet/42)... this is really the first time, in my opinion, that it is really Martha's adventure, and Martha's story. It's interesting to contemplate what a completely different story it would have been if Rose was still his Companion as opposed to Martha. Would Rose have been a subordinate, a dinner lady? Would he have fallen for her rather than Nurse Redfern? Would Rose have had the strength to demand the Doctor back? Just something to think about...and be pleased that they finally focused on what Martha brings to the table on a deeper level. Which is ironic because it's adapted from a book about a completely different Doctor and companion.
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