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Post by Queen E on Jun 29, 2007 20:18:46 GMT -5
Season finale!
I'm happy, yet sad!
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Post by beccaelizabeth on Jun 30, 2007 14:56:56 GMT -5
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Jul 1, 2007 8:23:42 GMT -5
One year later? WTF?
Ah, the secret beach drop.
Great, I'm traveling with a Doctor.
This is very surreal. Martha's mom working as a maid. The Doctor living in a dog tent.
I can't decide whether you should live or die.
Passing codes. So they've got a plan.
All of Martha's family working as maids. And Captain Jack is tied up. Kinky?
Rockets.
Anything else I should know? I've met Shakespeare. Hee.
Martha's still got her perception distorter.
Not invisible, just unnoticeable. I could see you. Yeah, that's because you wanted to.
Siding with the Doctor is a very dangerous thing to do.
Revenge best served hot.
Suspend his capacity to regenrate.
And here were go with the cheesy sped up spasm effect again.
FetalDoctor. Oh, god. That's really disturbing.
Lucy is not moving under her own power.
The drumming.
The sphere thingies are all the people from the rocket ship in Utopia.
But that's a paradox. Exactly.
So they have to destroy the TARDIS then.
Human race. Greatest monsters of all.
Kill a Time Lord permanently gun.
Martha doesn't look like a killer. Hmm.
Oh no, she's going to betray Martha.
The legend of the Doctor.
What would the Doctor do?
You've had Companions that could absorb the Time Vortex. This one's useless.
Ah, it was all a set up. Clever.
No weapons, just words. Nice.
Use the countdown.
Archangel satellites. Using the telepathic field against the Master.
One word: Doctor.
And... that brings him back to himself? I kind of like the idea, but I'm not sure I like the execution.
I forgive you. And the Master can't handle that.
Why do they think that guns are going to work?
The Master instinct for self preservation is his undoing.
Time is reversing. Darn it all.
Lucy shoots the Master. So she really hated him after all. Man, and I was looking forward to the Master being stuck in the TARDIS.
I win.
Wait, he's willing to die now, but he wasn't before when he wanted to burn the Earth to a crisp?
Funeral pyre.
Back in Cardiff.
the year that never was.
The Doctor doesn't want to be known.
Jack is the Face of Boe. WHOA.
Also, why the hell would they call him the Face of Boe?
Ah, the extended goodbye scene.
The Doctor finally gives Martha recognition.
Is this a real story, or just a pointed way of calling the Doctor out for his behavior?
The ring.
WTF? Ah, the Titanic. 10 had something to do with that one family not getting on the Titanic. I wonder if that's going to be relevant.
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Post by Queen E on Jul 2, 2007 7:39:25 GMT -5
Huh.
I don't want the Master to be dead...or Martha to be gone. Hmm.
More thoughts later. Tired now.
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Post by beccaelizabeth on Jul 2, 2007 12:52:46 GMT -5
Huh. I don't want the Master to be dead...or Martha to be gone. Hmm. More thoughts later. Tired now. This is not a spoiler, since I read almost none and haven't read any on this topic but the Master has previously died on screen by burning, been delivered after execution as a small bottle of ashes as the *start* of a story, and fallen into a black hole. Yet he appeared in this episode. Experience suggests he's only as dead as usual. The Martha thing made me think of Tegan, so I just figured she'd be back. But I don't know if it'll be like Jack being back or what. Jack wasn't very back.
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Jul 2, 2007 14:48:20 GMT -5
FYI, I posted something in the spoilers thread of whether or not Martha will be back.
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Post by Riff on Jul 3, 2007 13:00:35 GMT -5
Huh. I don't want the Master to be dead...or Martha to be gone. Hmm. More thoughts later. Tired now. Tha Master is not dead; the Master does not die (which is what the Flash Gordon/Hammer Dracula ring business at the end was all about). It's been reported on the BBC website that Martha will be returning in the middle of Season 4... after she has done a stint as member of the Torchwood team! Lucky for her, Jack will be in a better mood now. Opinion is divided amongst the fans, with a very vocal minority saying they hated the ep. I liked it, with the exception of the glowing floaty Doctor. I've never liked glowing people saving the day, ever since V (though Rose worked quite well in "TPotW"). It wasn't as remarkable as the eps preceeding it (we have had a good run), but it was big and interesting and emotional. Not excellent, but good, nevertheless. Loved hearing the Master talking about the Axons and the Sea Devils, both monsters that he joined forces with to fight the Third Doctor. It's amusing that his plan fell apart for the same reason they always do. He can't just kill the Doctor; he has to have petty vengeance. But... the fate of humanity is to survive to the end of the universe, and become those things? "Because it's fun! Hee! Hee!" Scary and bleak, even though the ep tries to undercut that with humanity uniting for the Doctor at the end.
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Post by Queen E on Jul 16, 2007 19:31:15 GMT -5
From Riff's post back in "The Shakespeare Code":
In the "Last of the Time Lords" podcast commentary, Phil Collinson notes that John Simm loved his laser screwdriver because it was bigger than DT's sonic screwdriver.
Quote from RTD in response to this: "Imagine the texts I was getting from John Barrowman."
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Post by Onjel on Jul 16, 2007 21:53:50 GMT -5
From Riff's post back in "The Shakespeare Code": In the "Last of the Time Lords" podcast commentary, Phil Collinson notes that John Simm loved his laser screwdriver because it was bigger than DT's sonic screwdriver. Quote from RTD in response to this: "Imagine the texts I was getting from John Barrowman." OMG! That is hilarious! He really rocks my world.
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Post by Queen E on Jul 25, 2007 20:46:00 GMT -5
But...what about Jack being the Face of Boe?
Personally, I loved that bit; it made my brain do squishy things.
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Post by Queen E on Jul 25, 2007 20:48:14 GMT -5
Huh. I don't want the Master to be dead...or Martha to be gone. Hmm. More thoughts later. Tired now. Tha Master is not dead; the Master does not die (which is what the Flash Gordon/Hammer Dracula ring business at the end was all about). It's been reported on the BBC website that Martha will be returning in the middle of Season 4... after she has done a stint as member of the Torchwood team! Lucky for her, Jack will be in a better mood now. Opinion is divided amongst the fans, with a very vocal minority saying they hated the ep. I liked it, with the exception of the glowing floaty Doctor. I've never liked glowing people saving the day, ever since V (though Rose worked quite well in "TPotW"). It wasn't as remarkable as the eps preceeding it (we have had a good run), but it was big and interesting and emotional. Not excellent, but good, nevertheless. Loved hearing the Master talking about the Axons and the Sea Devils, both monsters that he joined forces with to fight the Third Doctor. It's amusing that his plan fell apart for the same reason they always do. He can't just kill the Doctor; he has to have petty vengeance. But... the fate of humanity is to survive to the end of the universe, and become those things? "Because it's fun! Hee! Hee!" Scary and bleak, even though the ep tries to undercut that with humanity uniting for the Doctor at the end. Yes, but John Simm as The Master is gone, and that makes me sad. And you are absolutely right about the bleakness of humanity's last stand. Would the "uniting" at the end be what changes that? As the opening for Torchwood asserts: "The 21st century is where it all changes..."
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Jul 26, 2007 7:08:35 GMT -5
But...what about Jack being the Face of Boe? Personally, I loved that bit; it made my brain do squishy things. I think it's really cool. I'm not sure if it makes sense, but I'll have to revisit all the Face of Boe scenes to check.
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Post by Shan on Jul 27, 2007 23:19:06 GMT -5
But...what about Jack being the Face of Boe? Personally, I loved that bit; it made my brain do squishy things. Yeah. Me, too. Because...where did all that big come from? Was the poster just of his face and that's what he just kind of morphed his own reality/existence into? Takes his reference to "vanity" to a whole new level. And what about that news report about the Face of Bo (Boe?) being pregnant? Hrm. Me, I loved this ep. But I couldn't also help thinking at the end: this is supposed to be a show for kids? Because it was really intense.
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Post by beccaelizabeth on Jul 28, 2007 6:18:03 GMT -5
Face of Boe: Doesn't make sense. Joke made up at last moment. Doesn't work out. Also, either he time travels a lot as a head in a jar or he spends five billion years that disabled, which I wouldn't wish on the Master let alone Jack.
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Post by Queen E on Jul 28, 2007 13:39:44 GMT -5
Face of Boe: Doesn't make sense. Joke made up at last moment. Doesn't work out. Also, either he time travels a lot as a head in a jar or he spends five billion years that disabled, which I wouldn't wish on the Master let alone Jack. Huh. I don't know; I know it's kind of a stretch, and doesn't quite scan, but I appreciate the poetry of it, if you will.
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