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Post by Queen E on Feb 6, 2008 4:08:23 GMT -5
Huh.
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Post by beccaelizabeth on Feb 6, 2008 20:16:24 GMT -5
Rhys = win Jack/Rhys - homoerotic confrontation -> pretty / are you gay? = solution to the whole Jack/Gwen thing, just invite Rhys to join in. Jack/Ianto mostly subtext this time. I've read a lot of people complaining the show and Jack should make up their minds. I've read a lot of monogamists who seem to me to be fundamentally missing the point. *shrugs* Best part though = Gwen choosing Rhys even if it means losing Torchwood. That was just of win. I could hug her. And I haven't felt like that about Gwen since the first episode. lots more thoughts beccaelizabeth.livejournal.com/1329293.html and the tag for the episode
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Post by Shan on Feb 9, 2008 0:39:54 GMT -5
Rhys = win Jack/Rhys - homoerotic confrontation -> pretty / are you gay? = solution to the whole Jack/Gwen thing, just invite Rhys to join in. Jack/Ianto mostly subtext this time. I've read a lot of people complaining the show and Jack should make up their minds. I've read a lot of monogamists who seem to me to be fundamentally missing the point. *shrugs* Best part though = Gwen choosing Rhys even if it means losing Torchwood. That was just of win. I could hug her. And I haven't felt like that about Gwen since the first episode. lots more thoughts beccaelizabeth.livejournal.com/1329293.html and the tag for the episode I haven't finished watching the episode but I am finally getting that someone (I don't know who or WHY) is trying to give us Jack/Gwen and it is just NOT working for me in the BIGGEST way. Maybe I need to finish the ep or just...be a different kind of human, I don't know. Jack/Gwen just grates on my nerves.
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Post by Shan on Feb 9, 2008 1:27:37 GMT -5
Rhys = win Jack/Rhys - homoerotic confrontation -> pretty / are you gay? = solution to the whole Jack/Gwen thing, just invite Rhys to join in. Jack/Ianto mostly subtext this time. I've read a lot of people complaining the show and Jack should make up their minds. I've read a lot of monogamists who seem to me to be fundamentally missing the point. *shrugs* Best part though = Gwen choosing Rhys even if it means losing Torchwood. That was just of win. I could hug her. And I haven't felt like that about Gwen since the first episode. lots more thoughts beccaelizabeth.livejournal.com/1329293.html and the tag for the episode I haven't finished watching the episode but I am finally getting that someone (I don't know who or WHY) is trying to give us Jack/Gwen and it is just NOT working for me in the BIGGEST way. Maybe I need to finish the ep or just...be a different kind of human, I don't know. Jack/Gwen just grates on my nerves. Okay, having finished the ep and thinking more about Jack/Gwen - among other things, but I'm posting about just this one at the moment...Jack/Gwen actually isn't. Which makes me personally more comfortable. Because I see Jack wanting to be LIKE Gwen, not necessarily WITH her. Which is why also maybe he's attracted to Ianto. Who was also willing to throw it all (Torchwood) away for love. Gwen and Ianto have chosen Torchwood, but (or maybe because) it's not their entire reason for being. What - or more to the point - WHO else does Jack have as his own?
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Feb 9, 2008 9:01:39 GMT -5
Mmm... meat. Now, is this Man-Meat or the regular kind?
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Post by beccaelizabeth on Feb 9, 2008 9:45:46 GMT -5
I haven't finished watching the episode but I am finally getting that someone (I don't know who or WHY) is trying to give us Jack/Gwen and it is just NOT working for me in the BIGGEST way. Maybe I need to finish the ep or just...be a different kind of human, I don't know. Jack/Gwen just grates on my nerves. Okay, having finished the ep and thinking more about Jack/Gwen - among other things, but I'm posting about just this one at the moment...Jack/Gwen actually isn't. Which makes me personally more comfortable. Because I see Jack wanting to be LIKE Gwen, not necessarily WITH her. Which is why also maybe he's attracted to Ianto. Who was also willing to throw it all (Torchwood) away for love. Gwen and Ianto have chosen Torchwood, but (or maybe because) it's not their entire reason for being. What - or more to the point - WHO else does Jack have as his own? *nods a bunch*
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Post by beccaelizabeth on Feb 9, 2008 9:46:29 GMT -5
Mmm... meat. Now, is this Man-Meat or the regular kind? depends if you get the 9pm or 7pm edit
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Feb 9, 2008 10:17:45 GMT -5
Heddlu. A suburb of Cardiff, I presume?
Picking all the meat off the pizza, hee.
And Rhys finds out about what Gwen's really up to.
Torchwood is pretty dense if they can't figure out that some one is trailing them.
So now they think that Rhys is in on it, not that he simply followed them? Sheesh.
The long awaited Gwen/Rhys confrontation. FINALLY!
Dating dilemma of Torchwood.
They're on the magic flagstone, where they're invisible, but they still show up in the mirror. Huh?
And now the Jack/Rhys confrontation.
This is quite homoerotic. Well, I don't really think so, but hee anyway.
I like snarky Owen. Hee.
Gwen chose Torchwood, not the other way around.
Jack/Rhys bonding now.
This creature sounds like a sandworm.
Torchwood covers up their tracks. And Gwen's going to retcon Rhys. Again. Sigh.
Or maybe she won't. But then... she does or she doesn't? Did I miss something?
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Post by Shan on Feb 9, 2008 13:42:25 GMT -5
Mmm... meat. Now, is this Man-Meat or the regular kind? depends if you get the 9pm or 7pm edit Hee! And what happened to the creature after Owen mercy-killed it? That's one heck of a clean-up job. Owen's mercy killing brings up some of my thoughts on medical euthanasia. In the Western world, we regularly "humanely euthanize" terminally ill pets, or even rescued animals considered to be simply unadoptable as pets. But in most countries, it's still illegal for humans to commit suicide or even assist in one. The meat-creature was supposedly sentient, so....I wonder whether Owen's decision to euthanize it was more vet-thinking because of it being an alien or whether he was actually going against his physician training and/or oath not to deliberately take a life. I also realize there was some self-defense involved. Maybe I'll watch it again. Owen also went against Jack's stated wish to save it.
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Post by beccaelizabeth on Feb 9, 2008 16:15:28 GMT -5
Heddlu. A suburb of Cardiff, I presume? Heddlu means police. www.cs.cf.ac.uk/fun/welsh/LexiconForms.htmlThe 'Invisible lift' is a perception filter - it makes you un-noticeable, not actually invisible. she doesn't retcon him, she argues and won't.
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Post by beccaelizabeth on Feb 9, 2008 16:18:26 GMT -5
depends if you get the 9pm or 7pm edit Hee! And what happened to the creature after Owen mercy-killed it? That's one heck of a clean-up job. Owen's mercy killing brings up some of my thoughts on medical euthanasia. In the Western world, we regularly "humanely euthanize" terminally ill pets, or even rescued animals considered to be simply unadoptable as pets. But in most countries, it's still illegal for humans to commit suicide or even assist in one. The meat-creature was supposedly sentient, so....I wonder whether Owen's decision to euthanize it was more vet-thinking because of it being an alien or whether he was actually going against his physician training and/or oath not to deliberately take a life. I also realize there was some self-defense involved. Maybe I'll watch it again. Owen also went against Jack's stated wish to save it. 1-10 did the suicide thing with humans and Owen shot Jack without knowing he'd come back and seems a bit eager to get the gun out this year so I don't think it was specifically because it was alien though it was a big fuzzy area. I think the episode meant to raise the question - some of them saw meat, some of them saw people.
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Feb 9, 2008 16:34:39 GMT -5
Heddlu. A suburb of Cardiff, I presume? Heddlu means police. www.cs.cf.ac.uk/fun/welsh/LexiconForms.htmlThe 'Invisible lift' is a perception filter - it makes you un-noticeable, not actually invisible. she doesn't retcon him, she argues and won't. Thanks for the edificiation.
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Post by Shan on Feb 11, 2008 14:33:35 GMT -5
Hee! And what happened to the creature after Owen mercy-killed it? That's one heck of a clean-up job. Owen's mercy killing brings up some of my thoughts on medical euthanasia. In the Western world, we regularly "humanely euthanize" terminally ill pets, or even rescued animals considered to be simply unadoptable as pets. But in most countries, it's still illegal for humans to commit suicide or even assist in one. The meat-creature was supposedly sentient, so....I wonder whether Owen's decision to euthanize it was more vet-thinking because of it being an alien or whether he was actually going against his physician training and/or oath not to deliberately take a life. I also realize there was some self-defense involved. Maybe I'll watch it again. Owen also went against Jack's stated wish to save it. 1-10 did the suicide thing with humansand Owen shot Jack without knowing he'd come back and seems a bit eager to get the gun out this year so I don't think it was specifically because it was alien though it was a big fuzzy area. I think the episode meant to raise the question - some of them saw meat, some of them saw people. I remember that one, but that one had Jack dealing with it in a way that only Jack could. I was thinking about Owen and his medical background is all, where he was coming from. Owen's kind of in flux, I'm thinking...I was just considering the various directions.
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Post by beccaelizabeth on Feb 11, 2008 14:57:57 GMT -5
1-10 did the suicide thing with humansand Owen shot Jack without knowing he'd come back and seems a bit eager to get the gun out this year so I don't think it was specifically because it was alien though it was a big fuzzy area. I think the episode meant to raise the question - some of them saw meat, some of them saw people. I remember that one, but that one had Jack dealing with it in a way that only Jack could. I was thinking about Owen and his medical background is all, where he was coming from. Owen's kind of in flux, I'm thinking...I was just considering the various directions. *nods* Is Owen more often violent or medical? Cause I'm mostly remembering uses for autopsy room chisels, or getting in bar fights. But then there's rat jam, and that skeleton that was neither a girl nor shot, and this year being fairly consistently medical.
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Post by Lola m on Feb 16, 2008 20:59:29 GMT -5
Rhys is "on the scene" of something that Torchwood has an interest in?
Methinks he's gonna learn a bit about what Gwen does.
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