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Post by Spaced Out Looney on May 25, 2008 12:50:33 GMT -5
Part III
Baltar and Tory. Post Coitus.
Tory's divided loyalties.
Ah, Caprica told Baltar's attorney who told Baltar.
Laura addresses the Quorum.
Innoculated herself against compassion.
Natalie addresses the Quorum.
The Cylons spiritual epiphany.
So the Cylons learn about mortality and the humans learn about life everlasting?
Baltar watches Gaeta. Hmm.
Laura, Hera, Athena, and Caprica in the Opera House. And Baltar is there too.
Whoa, creepy shot of Hera there. Bye-bye. Eeee!
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on May 25, 2008 12:57:26 GMT -5
Part IV
Now Kara visits Laura.
Why is everyone surprised about the Final Five being in the fleet? Cylon's in the fleet have been a distinct possibility since the first season.
Kara tells Laura about what the hybrid said.
And Kara and Laura are actually connecting again. Neat.
Natalie's doubts about their plan. Finally acknowledging that maybe the Final Five won't want to come with them.
Laura meets with Baltar.
Searider Falcon.
Laura wants to talk to the hybrid. But I thought that she was dead.
Wants Baltar along because he's in the visions. Basically wants all players to meet and discuss.
Hera's drawing the Opera House, isn't she?
She's drawing the Sixes! And now Hera wandered away. Freaky!
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on May 25, 2008 13:00:36 GMT -5
Coda
Search for Hera overlapping with the vision of the Opera House.
How old is Hera now? She looks like she's five already.
And Six finds her and embraces her, just like in the vision.
But what does that mean?
So the hybrid still is alive. They can just plug and unplug her?
Loved Laura's "shut up" to Baltar. Hee!
Whoa!! Athena shoots Natalie!!!!
And the basestar jumps away. With Laura on it!!
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on May 25, 2008 13:48:44 GMT -5
So if the final five have been to Earth and four of the five know the song "All Along the Watchtower", maybe the Earth is the Earth of sometime between 1967 (when Dylan released the song on his "John Wesley Harding" album) and the present. Maybe it will be the earth of 1978 when the first Battlestar series was created. They arrive and find jobs as TV writers.
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on May 25, 2008 13:50:17 GMT -5
i was still curious if he's done vocal work, so i checked imdb.com. according to their trivia section on him: "Graduated from McGill University with a B.M. in vocal/opera performance." Neat. I too thought his voice was lovely.
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on May 28, 2008 8:33:33 GMT -5
It occurred to me last night, if the Quorum can do a vote of no confidence in the president, why didn't they do so on New Caprica, when Baltar was being the worst president ever?
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Post by Rachael on May 28, 2008 12:46:47 GMT -5
It occurred to me last night, if the Quorum can do a vote of no confidence in the president, why didn't they do so on New Caprica, when Baltar was being the worst president ever? Because Baltar was being backed by the occupying force, I'd say. Before the Cylons arrived, he was just a mediocre president - it was only after he handed the government over to them that he got impeachment-worthy. I mean, the majority of humanity probably wanted to settle on New Caprica; otherwise, why elect Baltar? And once the Cylons are backing Baltar, and manipulating him, it becomes very dangerous to openly defy him/them. The Quorum hasn't shown itself to be all that daring or willing to take a stand, IMO.
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Post by Lola m on May 28, 2008 12:59:57 GMT -5
I have my own conflicted feelings about the decision to remove the download option from all cylons forever. As a tactic to use against an enemy, I can understand it. But, oddly enough, once you start having some cylons who are aligned with humans . . . it's hard to explain, but why do they get to decide how all cylons should be? I mean, what if some cylons want to stop being enemies of humans but also stay the way they are? You're removing the option of any cylon from being the way they are. Like, what if Roslin and the government and the top military folks all made an agreement with the cylons that said "all humans will cut off on leg so as to be less threatening and then the war will be over" or "all humans will convert to your religion as part of the deal to end the war". Do they have the right to alter all of "their" people as part of peace agreement? What if some humans were fine with ending the war and getting along with the cylons but don't want to lose a leg or take on some other religion? It's giving me a very odd conflicted feeling about a plan that is tatically very good for the humans (if it works) and could be the path to a peaceful resolution. **nods** I can totally see Natalie's way of thinking and it may be sort of right. And I can also see that it is hard to implement something like this in a more individual way, because you wouldn't always know when you were gonna die so that you could make sure you were out of range of a resurrection ship. But as the cylons (especially the skin jobs, but we've seen more than one example with centurians and ships, too) start becoming more individualized and having different experiences and opinions, well . . . well then it becomes more problematic to say that it's OK to make sweeping decisions that will affect all, regardless of how individuals might feel about it. Ethical dilemmas R us!
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Post by Lola m on May 28, 2008 13:01:23 GMT -5
I like this reasoning for a "Roslin is the last cylon" theory. I alternate between thinking it is probaly one of the two leaders (her or Adama) and thinking it will turn out to be a character that has been there all along but seemed less important - hiding in plain sight, so to speak. Like Gaeta or Doc Cottle. Doc Cottle? *brain pings* It's Cottle!! That could be brilliant! ;D Wouldn't that be awesome!!!
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Post by Lola m on May 28, 2008 13:04:14 GMT -5
Teaser So Baltar's turned from Shakespeare to expose journalism. Lee confronts Laura. And Laura's serious lost touch with what the purpose of her office is. Just because you've had an existential crisis doesn't make it OK, Laura. **nods** As part of her existential crisis, I think she should be remembering that comment from the woman in the hospital that her experience of her mother's death is different than her mother's was. Different viewpoints and ideas may be valid, Roslin!!
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Post by Lola m on May 28, 2008 13:07:05 GMT -5
Part II The inner circle deciding their next step. Tigh asks why the Cylons refuse to fight them now when they had no problem before. Quorum meeting. Schism between the President and the Quorum. Hmm. That sounds familiar. Part of the whole "everything has happened before and will happen again" theme, eh? Which, if I were Tory, would really start to grate my cheese. And frankly, make me tempted to just continue to live down to everyone's expectations. I really liked the way Lee handled that scene with her.
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Post by Lola m on May 28, 2008 13:09:19 GMT -5
Part IV Now Kara visits Laura. Why is everyone surprised about the Final Five being in the fleet? Cylon's in the fleet have been a distinct possibility since the first season. Dude. Seriously. They've been practically tripping over them all the time.
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on May 28, 2008 13:54:10 GMT -5
It occurred to me last night, if the Quorum can do a vote of no confidence in the president, why didn't they do so on New Caprica, when Baltar was being the worst president ever? Because Baltar was being backed by the occupying force, I'd say. Before the Cylons arrived, he was just a mediocre president - it was only after he handed the government over to them that he got impeachment-worthy. I mean, the majority of humanity probably wanted to settle on New Caprica; otherwise, why elect Baltar? And once the Cylons are backing Baltar, and manipulating him, it becomes very dangerous to openly defy him/them. The Quorum hasn't shown itself to be all that daring or willing to take a stand, IMO. I meant before the Cylons showed up. The responsibilities of his office were clearly getting in the way of his partying proclivities, based on what we see in the first bit of the flash forward. He wasn't even trying, which fits my definition of the worst president ever.
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on May 28, 2008 13:57:43 GMT -5
Part II The inner circle deciding their next step. Tigh asks why the Cylons refuse to fight them now when they had no problem before. Quorum meeting. Schism between the President and the Quorum. Hmm. That sounds familiar. Part of the whole "everything has happened before and will happen again" theme, eh? Ahem, yes... I was referring to similarities to certain current events in our world...
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