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Post by Sue on Jun 13, 2008 22:48:06 GMT -5
Do we know how many episodes are left?
10?
12?
or less?
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Post by Sue on Jun 13, 2008 22:51:42 GMT -5
Speculation:
Seems obvious to me why the 2 warring civilizations had to go to earth together:
Neither humans, nor cylons can live on a radioactive planet. Had either arrived on their own they would either have given up entirely, committed mass suicide or simply died off. Of maybe gone back into space to commit nasty genocidal vengance on the the other side, assigning "fault" to the others.
But, obviously (speculation) the hybrid children are going to be able somehow to live on earth and bring it back to life.
So the human and cylon fleets will park above in space, interbreed like bunnies and produce a new race to populate earth.
Tada!
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Post by Karen on Jun 13, 2008 23:10:46 GMT -5
Oh. "Where do we go from here?" I suggest Earth. Once more with feeling, baby.
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Post by Karen on Jun 13, 2008 23:21:33 GMT -5
I thought Tigh was the one who was all about rolling the hard Six... Oh snap! LOLOLOL!!!
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Post by Rachael on Jun 14, 2008 1:04:55 GMT -5
Well. That, I was NOT expecting.
We didn't quite make it to being rediscovered, eh?
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Post by Rachael on Jun 14, 2008 1:09:28 GMT -5
So, is this an example of "it's all happened before"? And now they get to show if they really are able to forge a new path? And what happened to Kara when she reached Earth before? Who spiffed up her ship and sent her back? And were the final four on Earth before when it wasn't all wrecked or after? Hell of a cliffhanger. And, sadly, one we're going to have to sit on for a while. From TVGuide.com: Battlestar Galactica fans are well-advised to sit back and savor this Friday's midseason finale, because the balance of Season 4 — the series' last, lest we forget — won't be hitting the tube until after "the first of the year," says executive producer Ronald D. Moore. And that's a best-case scenario.At a Wednesday-night screening of this week's episode, Moore explained to TVGuide.com that even though they are currently filming the series' final scenes, the "practical realities" of post-production — coupled with the formidable end-of-year competition presented by new fall series, baseball and football — places the onset of the final episodes at the start of 2009, at the earliest. "Realistically, there's no way to get back on the air faster," he apologetically added.Oh, bugger. And I don't believe him about the competition. For one, the audience is set in stone already. The show is over, yeah? So they're not worrying about cancellation, and they're also not likely to get a pile of new fans, either. They want to air their prequel, is what. And keep the audience around for it.
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Post by Rachael on Jun 14, 2008 1:12:50 GMT -5
i loved the pan of the reactions at the end - adama and roslin together (d'anna walking up to join them), helo and athena together. tory reaching out to touch sam and sam walking away; caprica six reaching out to touch tigh and him standing there quietly letting her. dee and apollo and starbuck all standing alone. just thought it was really neat. i have no idea why the skyline struck me as manhattan's, but it did - like they were standing by the ruined statue of liberty looking out onto ruined new york city. interesting (but not particularly surprising) that tory was treated the worst by the humans and had the fewest qualms about giving up her old life to go be with the cylons. Well, wasn't that the Brooklyn Bridge? It's gonna be Manhattan, most of the time. The only truly recognizable landscapes to most of the audience will be Manhattan, the Golden Gate Bridge, and maybe the Space Needle.
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Post by Onjel on Jun 14, 2008 9:19:25 GMT -5
It was all very "Planet of the Apes"esque to me, since I, too, thought they were looking across at what was left of Manhattan. I was not surprised by the ending at all, since this was something taking place near in time to our own, and having them suddenly show up in the midst of humans not quite at their level of technology didn't seem like a workable plan. At the risk of re-stating the obvious, the point is to show that humans and Cylons will become extinct if they persist on following the path of mutually assured destruction they were on, and charred Earth is proof, if ever they needed it. They made strides toward working together when they agreed to go to Earth together, but I got the sense that the alliance wasn't going to last beyond reaching that goal. Now, however, since all can die, they have to work together to keep the two peoples from disappearing from the universe. Just one more incentive to stop the damn war. Or, it could just be that it's Saturday morning and my brain has shut down for the weekend.
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Post by Onjel on Jun 14, 2008 9:22:34 GMT -5
Sue? LOLOLOL! We were obviously sharing a brain last night. ;D
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Post by Sue on Jun 14, 2008 11:52:11 GMT -5
Sue? LOLOLOL! We were obviously sharing a brain last night. ;D We are da bomb!
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Post by artemis on Jun 14, 2008 17:17:42 GMT -5
<snip> i have no idea why the skyline struck me as manhattan's, but it did - like they were standing by the ruined statue of liberty looking out onto ruined new york city. interesting (but not particularly surprising) that tory was treated the worst by the humans and had the fewest qualms about giving up her old life to go be with the cylons. Well, wasn't that the Brooklyn Bridge? It's gonna be Manhattan, most of the time. The only truly recognizable landscapes to most of the audience will be Manhattan, the Golden Gate Bridge, and maybe the Space Needle. well, it wouldn't have had to be a particular recognizable landscape; it could have just been random destruction. the buildings looked so ruined to me that for me, it was just an impression of manhattan at first. so it sure seems you were right, rachael, about the revealed four being able to parent children with whomever, cylon or human. hmm. i wonder if they were cylon-human hybrids themselves? i wonder why d'anna didn't say whether the last of the five was in the fleet or not (it seemed deliberate to me on the part of the writers), much less expect them to reveal themselves....
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Post by artemis on Jun 14, 2008 17:20:50 GMT -5
At the risk of re-stating the obvious, the point is to show that humans and Cylons will become extinct if they persist on following the path of mutually assured destruction they were on, and charred Earth is proof, if ever they needed it. <snip> in retrospect i think it's so interesting that this was baltar's point to d'anna. (interesting that it was baltar that made this point to the cylons, i mostly mean.) i wonder what roslin would have said if she'd gone instead of him...
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Jun 14, 2008 17:26:03 GMT -5
Teaser
Is that the Scrolls of Pythia?
Kara and Lee.
The temple of Aurora, on Earth.
Changing of the guard.
Children are born to replace their parents. For parents to reach their full potential, their parents have to die.
Back on the Basestar.
Only 4 of the Final Five are in the Fleet. So there’s not another character we know who might be a Cylon.
If we cooperate… Yeah, I think that may be the lesson of the day It’s the Prisoners Dilemma
And D'Anna points out the whole problem with the "cooperation" plan. Except, I think that you may be been responsible to the New Caprica plan, D'Anna.
And she holds them hostage to assure that the Final Four aren't harmed. Excellent.
Gaeta and Dee.
Reunited with the fleet.
D'Anna's already in contact with them. If by in contact with them, you mean that they are standing right there and you're telling them to arrange a secret rendez-vous. Hee!
Now the Final Four have to decide whether to go or not.
Now, D'Anna gets to see how the Final Four react. Interesting.
Wait, Lee's still president, even though Roslin's back?
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Post by artemis on Jun 14, 2008 17:35:01 GMT -5
Only 4 of the Final Five are in the Fleet. So there’s not another character we know who might be a Cylon. i thought at first she led people to believe that and then clarified that in actuality, there were only four that they wanted to come with them - leaving it open-ended as to whether the fifth was in the fleet or not. i'll try to listen carefully when i rewatch it. quite so. ;D
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Jun 14, 2008 17:38:37 GMT -5
Part I
The Final Four giving themselves up is the only way to resolve the conflict. Just as D'Anna wanted.
Tory meet the rest of the Cylons.
Roslin bandaging up Baltar. Awkward!
Tory reveals herself as a Cylon to Roslin and Baltar. Ooh!
Baltar knew it. But only in the sense that he knew something he didn't know. ;D
I'm done taking orders from you! Ooh! And I wonder if Tory is going to regret doing this.
Tyrol hears The Music again. And Anders and Tigh.
And Tory. But the rest of the Cylons don't. Interesting.
Ah, one of those felt compelled to hold a Final Four meeting again messages.
It's Kara's Viper. Something in the Viper transmits the music message?
Tigh reveals himself to Adama as a Cylon. Ooh!
Tigh's afraid he's like Boomer. I like how each has a different reaction to their Cylon identity.
Adama refuses to believe. Brings up the "known you for 30 years" bit.
When I met you, you had hair. Hee!
Post Hypnotic Suggestion. Well, that's actually possible, isn't it?
Michael Hogan is rockin' this scene.
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