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Post by Lola m on Mar 27, 2009 21:30:03 GMT -5
What the hell connection did DeWitt have with Caroline before she became Echo?? Ah, and now all the awkward post-drug-induced-wackiness conversations. Hmmm. Dom is uncharacteristically sub . . . dued. (See what I did there? With the word play? **facepalms over my dorkiness**) Ah, Mellie. Ah, Paul. Yeah, it's probably better for her to leave. What with her being a programmable killer and all. OMG OMG OMG!! They nabbed Sam for the House too? So, is he following the same path that Caroline did? Yes - same ploy. They'll give him a "new life / better life" if he gives them 5 years of his life. "I'm going to make you an offer." (One he can't refuse, eh?) ooooooh next week omg looks like it's gonna be a hellof a show
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Post by Lola m on Mar 27, 2009 21:31:54 GMT -5
AND Adelle gives us a look of "Terrified" and "High as a kite" at the same time there, looking at Mellie as she recites her ass-kicking activation sequence. She was awesome in this ep!! ;D
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Post by Lola m on Mar 27, 2009 21:35:07 GMT -5
Or is it vice versa? I can't quite tell what they're saying. At first I thought it was Rossum paying for the Dollhouse, but . . . from what the head woman was saying to Topher, could it be the opposite? That is a disturbing idea my friend. And now I'm wondering if you're right . . . OMG, I know it's wrong of me to think so, but hell ya it's adorable! Damn sexy too. thinks dirty bad wrong thoughts ;D *Sit right there next to you, thinking similar thoughts and eating popcorn* sadly I have no popcorn . . . **weeps**
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Post by Lola m on Mar 27, 2009 21:37:40 GMT -5
Okay, need to watch the first scene of the first episode again. I'm wondering if the personality he wanted was the same one or a different one. What was the name of who she was playing in the first ep?
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Post by Matthew on Mar 27, 2009 22:37:45 GMT -5
Okay, need to watch the first scene of the first episode again. I'm wondering if the personality he wanted was the same one or a different one. What was the name of who she was playing in the first ep? I don't know. I'll let you know if I figure it out. I was talking about her "intake interview" with Adelle, and the parallels with the one Adelle has with Sam. But I do think that tied-to-the-bed-motorcycle-guy is in line for a big refund.
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Post by Matthew on Mar 28, 2009 14:30:50 GMT -5
I'm wondering if the personality he wanted was the same one or a different one. What was the name of who she was playing in the first ep? I don't know. I'll let you know if I figure it out. I was talking about her "intake interview" with Adelle, and the parallels with the one Adelle has with Sam. But I do think that tied-to-the-bed-motorcycle-guy is in line for a big refund. Okay, just rewatched the first scene of the first episode. Caroline says to Adelle "You're loving this" in a way that implies familiarity. She also says that she was "just trying to make a difference, just trying to take my place in the world like she always said" So now? Combined with the name differences (DeWitt vs Farrell) I'm thinking Adelle is her aunt. *waits eagerly to be confirmed or to be jossed* *EDIT* and the personality she has in the first episode with Matt is never named in the show. But the affect is totally different: first ep she's willful, strong, confident, and relaxed. Alice is tenative, reserved, and a bit anxious.
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Post by rich on Mar 28, 2009 18:59:35 GMT -5
Rossum? ROSSUM!?!
As in Rossum's Universal Robots? From R.U.R., the 1921 Czech language play by Karel Čapek, which gave us the word "Robot"?
Nice reference, Joss.
And this week, Jane Espenson, Consulting Producer? The corpse of BSG isn't even cold yet and the Queen of Pain is back!
This show gets more fun every time I watch it. ;D
*Rich goes to his happy place*
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Post by rich on Mar 28, 2009 20:38:15 GMT -5
Perhaps all the dolls are people who crossed Rossum or discovered some dirt on them?
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Post by Julia, wrought iron-y on Mar 28, 2009 20:50:51 GMT -5
Rossum? ROSSUM!?! As in Rossum's Universal Robots? From R.U.R., the 1921 Czech language play by Karel Čapek, which gave us the word "Robot"? Nice reference, Joss. And this week, Jane Espenson, Consulting Producer? The corpse of BSG isn't even cold yet and the Queen of Pain is back! This show gets more fun every time I watch it. ;D *Rich goes to his happy place* By the way, Jane Espenson wrote The Plan, the "cylon side of it" two hour movie that'll be on SciFi next fall- Eddie Olmos directed it. And thanks for giving me the referrant for Rossum, I'd been flummoxed by it all night. Julia, wasn't evn sure which word was driving me bats
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Post by rich on Mar 28, 2009 20:54:08 GMT -5
Discovered new thing about Caroline with this episode. She believed both humans AND animals have souls. Maybe her belief was as simple as the Buddhist "If it flinches, it has a soul", maybe she was an Animist and thought everything has a soul. And now, of course, the big question is does Caroline have a soul? Does anything? Is there even such a thing as a soul?
Also, I'm starting a Dollhouse drinking game. The rules are simple. You drink every time Topher says "That shouldn't have happened."
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Post by Michelle on Mar 29, 2009 14:23:03 GMT -5
Is there a...never mind.
Here's the place for posting your thoughts! Is there a...never mind. Here's the place for posting your thoughts! Is there a...never mind.
Here's the place for posting your thoughts!.. ..... ......... ..... ...... ... ..... ... ....... .... ......... ;D Sue! LOLOL!!
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Post by Michelle on Mar 29, 2009 14:24:22 GMT -5
Yep. Eventually every sci fi show has to do a Naked Time episode. Caroline Farrell. Well, there's one easy theory mostly knocked out of the way. If not a relative, my theory is Adelle may have been one of her professors in college.
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Post by Michelle on Mar 29, 2009 14:30:12 GMT -5
A few years ago . . . Caroline was all political. OMG, they're using neighbor woman (is her name Mellie? sp?) as a lab rat to see what the drug does? Oy!! Rossum Corporation is why they exist (money, yes? Do they own the Dollhouse? The Dollhouses?). And she believes in the work we're funding (so, the Dollhouses pay for some other "important" something?). Don't have any more X factors. Oh that is just asking for trouble. Ooooh. Now is Boyd gonna go nuts too? Is the drug spread thru contact? She's supposed to save "him". So, she's remembering actual event from her life, yes? Maybe the trouble she was in that meant they grabbed her later? She knows how to get in and that "freaks her out". Heh! Also, I find it interesting how sure the guy was that they were being experimented on - he was expecting it. Hmmmmm. Is he like Caroline was before she was memory-wiped? "Do you want to have a treatment." "No." (First, that's a wow moment - that she did not repsond appropriately to programming!)"Hey. Wow. Did not maintain control of that situation." (Heee! Boyd is funny when he's stoned.) Here is my question. It's become very apparent that the Actives' memories are not getting fully wiped, ergo, the whole premise of the Dollhouse is pretty much not working. But Joss has said he has a five year plan, yet we're only in episode 7 and we already know that things are falling apart, the dolls are glitching, and they often can't complete their mission/fantasy/whathaveyou. I guess this is why I'm not a show runner and Joss is, but I can't see how this could continue on for years. Anyone have thoughts on that?
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Post by Michelle on Mar 29, 2009 14:34:36 GMT -5
What the hell connection did DeWitt have with Caroline before she became Echo?? Ah, and now all the awkward post-drug-induced-wackiness conversations. Hmmm. Dom is uncharacteristically sub . . . dued. (See what I did there? With the word play? **facepalms over my dorkiness**)
Ah, Mellie. Ah, Paul. Yeah, it's probably better for her to leave. What with her being a programmable killer and all. OMG OMG OMG!! They nabbed Sam for the House too? So, is he following the same path that Caroline did? Yes - same ploy. They'll give him a "new life / better life" if he gives them 5 years of his life. "I'm going to make you an offer." (One he can't refuse, eh?) ooooooh next week omg looks like it's gonna be a hellof a show Heee heee. **dorks out along with you**I'm glad that actor is returning. I liked the character a lot. Well, until we found out he was a murderer.
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Post by Michelle on Mar 29, 2009 14:35:23 GMT -5
Rossum? ROSSUM!?! As in Rossum's Universal Robots? From R.U.R., the 1921 Czech language play by Karel Čapek, which gave us the word "Robot"? Nice reference, Joss. And this week, Jane Espenson, Consulting Producer? The corpse of BSG isn't even cold yet and the Queen of Pain is back! This show gets more fun every time I watch it. ;D *Rich goes to his happy place* I'm in love with your brain, Rich.
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