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Post by Sara on Aug 2, 2007 14:36:12 GMT -5
exactly! We're being asked to swallow a little too much with less preparation. Sirius Black's mentioned in book one. The fact that Harry's wand is brother to voldemort's is put in four books ahead of where it becomes vital to the plot. Oh, and I Hary's wand acting all on its own volition still is all "WTF?!" to me.Okay, okay, conceded! Maybe they won't be together for the rest of their life. But their argumentativeness and bickering seems to be of the good kind, that they both enjoy and keeps them both interested. I dunno. And I can't see any of them marrying a muggle or a squib.Again, (as I said to you before about this) pthththth.
(he said with dignity).
In all seriousness, I actually don't see the parallels between Ginny and Lily sr, is it the way the actresses look? The fact that Lily was a redhead and so is Ginny?
And Harry himself points out that Hermione appealing to Ron for support sounded just like Molly appealing to Arthur. Down to the frantic backpeddling on the part of the male member of the party. ;D As to the last part? I'd completely repressed that moment until now, thankyouverymuch. Although I suspect Harry said that just to wind the two of them up as much as anything. And yeah, it's both that the actresses (at least to my eye) look alike as well as the two characters being redheads; since everyone says Harry looks like his father, I imagine photos of Harry and Ginny together are going to be strikingly similar to pictures of James and Lily.
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Post by Matthew on Aug 2, 2007 14:49:46 GMT -5
exactly! We're being asked to swallow a little too much with less preparation. Sirius Black's mentioned in book one. The fact that Harry's wand is brother to voldemort's is put in four books ahead of where it becomes vital to the plot. Oh, and I Hary's wand acting all on its own volition still is all "WTF?!" to me.Okay, okay, conceded! Maybe they won't be together for the rest of their life. But their argumentativeness and bickering seems to be of the good kind, that they both enjoy and keeps them both interested. I dunno. And I can't see any of them marrying a muggle or a squib.Again, (as I said to you before about this) pthththth.
(he said with dignity).
In all seriousness, I actually don't see the parallels between Ginny and Lily sr, is it the way the actresses look? The fact that Lily was a redhead and so is Ginny?
And Harry himself points out that Hermione appealing to Ron for support sounded just like Molly appealing to Arthur. Down to the frantic backpeddling on the part of the male member of the party. ;D As to the last part? I'd completely repressed that moment until now, thankyouverymuch. Although I suspect Harry said that just to wind the two of them up as much as anything. And yeah, it's both that the actresses (at least to my eye) look alike as well as the two characters being redheads; since everyone says Harry looks like his father, I imagine photos of Harry and Ginny together are going to be striking similar to pictures of James and Lily. Yes, the actresses look very alike. So I'm just going to pretend that Harry is attracted to Ginny (in the movies) because she resembles Ron so much(even though, in the movies, Wright resembles the Phelps brothers more than she does Grint). *jangles logic-box* Is this thing on? *taptaptap*
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Post by Sharky on Aug 2, 2007 15:34:42 GMT -5
Thanks! Book 6 is the only one I haven't read more than once (well, other than Book 7), so I think I'll give it another go once I get to the end of Young Miles. Oh, DO! I love hell out of book six. It's a wartime romantic comedy crossbred with a Romero film. The whole thing is worth it to re-read if only for Luna Lovegood's bits. Plus Ginny's dispassionate appraisals of Lavender and won-won's techniques. Hee! Incidentally, David Yates has said that the casting call for Lavender will require the actress to snog Rupert to check the chemistry. Grint looked both... pleased and fearful, and VERY "Ron" upon hearing about this. I remember enjoying Book 6. A problem with the series is that I fly through the initial reading so quickly that a re-reading is essential to get the detail. But I'm definitely going to read it again once I get to the end of Young Miles. You've got a good point on how the chances of high school sweethearts ending up married naturally would be greater in the wizarding world. Luna's a wonderful character that I wish had been introduced sooner. I think they cast her wonderfully, too. I would have like to see the Hallows mentioned earlier in the series. Legends of an unbeatable wand surely would get told around the common rooms of the Houses, and the Resurrection Stone could have been mentioned as a legendary object that contrasted with the Sorceror's Stone in the first book. This would have given the story more continuity, rather than throwing the Hallows in as a Deus Ex Magica at the end.
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Post by jeff on Aug 10, 2007 13:41:00 GMT -5
Here is a wonderfully written editorial by Stephen King on Harry Potter. He was one of it's biggest fans. It is 3 pages long so be sure to keep reading after page one. It really is pretty cool here:
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Aug 24, 2007 11:22:14 GMT -5
Some on lj puts together all the logic about the deathly hallows etc here. It makes sense. I think.
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Post by Queen E on Aug 24, 2007 12:19:23 GMT -5
I've been thinking about the Harry--->Snape--->Voldermort thing, and it seems to be that the three of them represent mirrors of one another. All along, we've been hearing about the importance of "choice" for each witch and wizard. With the three of them, you have three "half-blood" dark-haired wizards, all three of whom had painful or difficult childhoods. Voldemort's mother died after he was born and his father never acknowledged him. Snape's home life was obviously full of fighting and anger, and also a father who wanted little to do with his magical wife or son. Then you have Harry, very much loved by his parents in his first year of life, and orphaned by Voldemort thereafter and stuck with relatives who were, frankly, abusive. Each had a choice as to how to live their lives, but the one who had the strongest chance to survive with his "whole soul" was the one who had a mother's love strong enough to sacrifice herself for him. Strong enough to forgive Snape for not being able to get past his own childhood hatred of James because Snape loved Lily, and not "kill" Voldemort with an unforgiveable curse.
In many ways, the entire series is a paean to the strength of love, and its redemptive qualities, especially a mother's love. Which is kind of nice, considering all the "bad mother" Freudian stuff out there. It saved Harry AND Snape, and even allowed Harry to give Voldemort the choice of remorse, even if it was probably too late.
Well, my thoughts are kind of rambly and nonsensical. Sorry 'bout that.
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