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Post by Queen E on Aug 15, 2009 7:25:36 GMT -5
Dude. I don't have words...
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Post by Squeemonster on Aug 15, 2009 14:51:00 GMT -5
Dude. I don't have words... I hope you find some. I'd love to hear your thoughts on this. "Blown away" are two words that come to mind for me. Just . . . wow. |
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Post by spacecat1974 on Aug 16, 2009 1:43:02 GMT -5
Damn!
Poor Victor! Seems like a natural extension of the Active program.
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Post by Sara on Sept 5, 2009 19:13:24 GMT -5
Wow.
That's about all I got. Just... wow.
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Post by Lola m on Sept 7, 2009 19:33:27 GMT -5
Damn!  Now we've seen the future . . . or a perhaps future? Every ep we see from now on we'll be examining for how it leads to what we saw here. Broken Topher just blew me away. "An entire army in a single instant. 'At's brilliant. That's so brilliant! Why didn't I think of that? . . . Did I think of that? Did I?" And the little girl's first shot? Damn!! |
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Post by Sara on Sept 7, 2009 20:09:50 GMT -5
Damn! Now we've seen the future . . . or a perhaps future? Every ep we see from now on we'll be examining for how it leads to what we saw here. Broken Topher just blew me away. "An entire army in a single instant. 'At's brilliant. That's so brilliant! Why didn't I think of that? . . . Did I think of that? Did I?" And the little girl's first shot? Damn!! I know! I almost fell off the couch. That little girl, btw, was played by the same young lady who portrayed Molly on Heroes.I never, ever thought I'd feel bad for Topher. Damn Joss for proving me wrong. And Whiskey just about broke my heart. For her sake alone I hope that the future we saw never comes to pass. |
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Post by Queen E on Sept 8, 2009 8:17:31 GMT -5
Honestly? I don't think it was intended as "possible" future. I think it was the future.
But I suppose I'll get to that in my review...
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Post by Karen on Sept 8, 2009 10:42:20 GMT -5
Dude. I don't have words... Ohh...good, huh? I tried to download yesterday, but was having trouble with my iTunes. |
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Post by Sue on Sept 8, 2009 19:14:26 GMT -5
Damn! Now we've seen the future . . . or a perhaps future? Every ep we see from now on we'll be examining for how it leads to what we saw here. Broken Topher just blew me away. "An entire army in a single instant. 'At's brilliant. That's so brilliant! Why didn't I think of that? . . . Did I think of that? Did I?" And the little girl's first shot? Damn!! Obviously they learned nothing from the creators of the atom bomb. Splitting the atom: enormous of amounts of energy at our fingertips. Oops, it's a weapon. Dear me, can't stuff the genie back into the bottle. Oh, let's play with people's brains and imprint personalities on them. Personalities gathered by a giant rich mega-corp. What could go wrong? We're just "providing a valuable service." But the leap to imprinting millions all at once using robo-calling: genius. And entirely metaphorical for ..... robo-calling! Although, some of the actual details are a bit hazy to me. Maybe a re-watch will help. I didn't quite understand how/why/who started the war. And it's still happening? Never answer the phone! Alpha found the .... sounded more like a vaccination than a "cure." And gave it to Caroline. Although, kind of freaky to have both her own personality plus the downloaded one at once. And Ballard is now her handler. We don't really know why Harry Lennix had to run away do we? Did he only get close to Claire Saunders while working there or did they know each other before going "under?" The little girl is fantastic. Thanks for telling me where I'd seen her before. Yes, what a shock to have her shot the guy. Sadly, (sorry, I've got to say this) she acted circles around Eliza. The scene in the elevator with Caroline complaining about her head hurting is actually embarrassing. Small matters: the first 20 minutes was very dark which made it hard to follow, especially with a bunch of actors/characters we'd never seen before and plot (apparently) unrelated, at first, to season one. I've seen the other posts about is it A future or THE future. I can't possibly imagine how this will fit in with season two. Is Joss suddenly going to jump forward in time to this time line? How can people who don't see this episode possibly understand. Is time not going to jump? How can people who DID see this episode be patient if they know what is coming and now want to see where it goes from here? Joss' ideas of the future are very dystopian. He doesn't seem very optimistic. Interesting that they had a prayer circle -- clearly in spite of everything some form of religion survives. |
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Post by Sue on Sept 8, 2009 19:15:56 GMT -5
Honestly? I don't think it was intended as "possible" future. I think it was the future. But I suppose I'll get to that in my review... But, but, but..... Very non-linear story telling. See my question in post above: then when does season two take place and how are we supposed to view it if we know what is coming. And how soon will all hell break loose and will we then get to see what happens later. Very confusing. |
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Post by Sara on Sept 9, 2009 11:01:34 GMT -5
I was listening to some of the episode commentary by writers Jed Whedon and Maurissa Tancharoen before going to work this morning, and thought I'd share a few interesting tidbits: - The episode was filmed at the same time as the season finale "Omega," which is why ED was only in a couple of scenes. In fact, the above-ground scenes in apocalyptic L.A. were shot at the same power plant as "Omega."
- Most of the behind-the-scenes crew on "Epitaph One" had never worked on Dollhouse before, as the regular DH folks were busy with "Omega"; almost all of them, in fact, came over from 24 to do DH.
- Because of both the nature of the shoot (low budget, not much time) and the setting, they made the decision to shoot the scenes set in the future on hand-held video while doing the flashback scenes on film, the show's usual medium.
- Dichen Lachman put baby oil in her hair for her scene, as she wanted to make sure Sierra looked like she hadn't showered in ages. She also selected Sierra's true last name, as Jed and Maurissa wanted an authentic Tibetan name.
- Reed Diamond was only available for a day, so his scenes had to be finished before the rest of the episode was entirely written. Adair Tisdale's on-set availability was also limited due to her age, so much of her coverage was all shot at the same time and then intercut into the final product.
- Jed and Maurissa wrote the song you hear at the end of the ep; that's Maurissa singing it as well.
- Zack Ward, who portrayed Zone (the male character who survived the ep), is probably best known to all of us as Scut Farkas, the bully who tormented Ralphie in A Christmas Story.
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Post by Sara on Sept 9, 2009 11:11:09 GMT -5
Honestly? I don't think it was intended as "possible" future. I think it was the future. But I suppose I'll get to that in my review... But, but, but..... Very non-linear story telling. See my question in post above: then when does season two take place and how are we supposed to view it if we know what is coming. And how soon will all hell break loose and will we then get to see what happens later. Very confusing. According to the ep's Wiki entry, at Comic-Con Joss told the crowd that "the second season would follow the general continuity laid out in [Epitaph One], while reminding the audience that the episode is based on memories that may or may not be accurate," giving them a bit of wiggle room to not follow the timeline with absolute precision. |
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Post by Sue on Sept 9, 2009 13:26:46 GMT -5
But, but, but..... Very non-linear story telling. See my question in post above: then when does season two take place and how are we supposed to view it if we know what is coming. And how soon will all hell break loose and will we then get to see what happens later. Very confusing. According to the ep's Wiki entry, at Comic-Con Joss told the crowd that "the second season would follow the general continuity laid out in [Epitaph One], while reminding the audience that the episode is based on memories that may or may not be accurate," giving them a bit of wiggle room to not follow the timeline with absolute precision. Trying to understand what he means. Does this mean season two will sort of be backstory to Epitaph One until we catch up to that period in time? I see how this would mean that you don't have to have seen it -- you will just see the new episodes as moving forward in time, but people who did view it will be taking it as backstory to things they already (think they) know -- with possible exceptions for inaccurate memories and also the fact that there is no way Felicia Day et al can really know exactly what/how it all came about. They mostly just know what the fallout has been. Okay. Almost kind of like what supposedly happens in Flashforward --- knowing the future but not knowing how it happend. Although in that show it's much more clear that it (may) be simply a possible future. And, does anyone else also see possible similarities with the new Bruce Willis film "Surrogates" where people (and their brains/personalities) are being kept "safe" somewhere while they interact while inhabiting "better" bodies. Maybe not so much. The film also sounds to me like it has elements of one of Asimov's robot stories. |
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Post by Lola m on Sept 11, 2009 21:37:55 GMT -5
Damn! Now we've seen the future . . . or a perhaps future? Every ep we see from now on we'll be examining for how it leads to what we saw here. Broken Topher just blew me away. "An entire army in a single instant. 'At's brilliant. That's so brilliant! Why didn't I think of that? . . . Did I think of that? Did I?" And the little girl's first shot? Damn!! I know! I almost fell off the couch. That little girl, btw, was played by the same young lady who portrayed Molly on Heroes.Well, we always knew that Molly was far more decisive and on the ball that her two daddies, but damn!  OMG, Whiskey? When she stayed behind and just calmly filled the place with gas?  |
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Post by Lola m on Sept 11, 2009 21:40:15 GMT -5
According to the ep's Wiki entry, at Comic-Con Joss told the crowd that "the second season would follow the general continuity laid out in [Epitaph One], while reminding the audience that the episode is based on memories that may or may not be accurate," giving them a bit of wiggle room to not follow the timeline with absolute precision. Trying to understand what he means. Does this mean season two will sort of be backstory to Epitaph One until we catch up to that period in time? I see how this would mean that you don't have to have seen it -- you will just see the new episodes as moving forward in time, but people who did view it will be taking it as backstory to things they already (think they) know -- with possible exceptions for inaccurate memories and also the fact that there is no way Felicia Day et al can really know exactly what/how it all came about. They mostly just know what the fallout has been. That's my take on it. They didn't really state when it all fell apart, did they? So, they could even have several seasons leading up to the collapse, yes? |
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