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Post by Queen E on Jan 29, 2010 0:33:08 GMT -5
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Post by Karen on Jan 30, 2010 10:12:40 GMT -5
Things I liked in this episode. Topher making amends. The mini-Caroline. Wizard of Oz reference...Adele saying "I guess there really is no place like home." Tony with a tech upgrade. The way the tech heads used wear their 'prints' around their necks. Saying 'log off' instead of back off. Echo - "It's just the next thing." About the Asian techhead."She's a girl, Meg." Hehe. And then to her comment - You don't like girls? 'Apparently everyone does.' Paul and Echo. The music during the firefight to get into the Dollhouse. PAUL DEAD. ECHO'S REACTION. I both liked and disliked that part. The Dollhouse looking basically the same as it ever was. Alpha back and doing good! And cracking jokes with Victor! Topher's bed. OMG. Love it. "Every action effects our neural topography. We literally become what we do. Not what we've done or what we will do. We're best defined by our actions at the moment." Hmmmm.... Adele and Topher. Alpha's 'favor'. So very cool - his gift to Echo. Tony and Pria and their son. The flash and the reset. The little stripe of gray in Echo's hair. Paul and Echo. What I didn't like. The fact that it ended. (And the fact that they seemed to cut it short at the very end. WTF. Couldn't they even at least give us that? )
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Post by Sue on Jan 30, 2010 10:41:02 GMT -5
Things I liked in this episode. Topher making amends. The mini-Caroline. Wizard of Oz reference...Adele saying "I guess there really is no place like home." Tony with a tech upgrade. The way the tech heads used wear their 'prints' around their necks. Saying 'log off' instead of back off. Echo - "It's just the next thing." About the Asian techhead."She's a girl, Meg." Hehe. And then to her comment - You don't like girls? 'Apparently everyone does.' Paul and Echo. The music during the firefight to get into the Dollhouse. PAUL DEAD. ECHO'S REACTION. I both liked and disliked that part. The Dollhouse looking basically the same as it ever was. Alpha back and doing good! And cracking jokes with Victor! Topher's bed. OMG. Love it. "Every action effects our neural topography. We literally become what we do. Not what we've done or what we will do. We're best defined by our actions at the moment." Hmmmm.... Adele and Topher. Alpha's 'favor'. So very cool - his gift to Echo. Tony and Pria and their son. The flash and the reset. The little stripe of gray in Echo's hair. Paul and Echo. What I didn't like. The fact that it ended. (And the fact that they seemed to cut it short at the very end. WTF. Couldn't they even at least give us that? ) It was clearly the contents of an entire season, masterfully boiled down to the most necessary bare-bones outline. Like viewing the "Cliff-Notes" version of what could have been. And Joss is still able to bring shock, pathos, fear, despair, crushing loss and lonliness (Adelle's farewell to Topher was actually more moving to me than Echo's loss of Ballard), hope, comedy, amazingly pithy lines, startling one into actually laughing in the midst of all that. Amazing. And, as rocky as the show started off these last several episodes showed what could have been over the course of 4 or 5 or 6 seasons. A mythology easily the equal of Lost, IMO. Anyone who hires Joss needs to be prepared to stick it out through the first 8-10 eps and then watch him get up to speed. It's like, the further in he gets the more his brain revs up with more stories and more depth. I'd start a show of his in the summer and then promote the hell out of the back half of the season in January---like putting it on after the Superbowl. Is someone writing Victor/Spike crossover fic?
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Post by Anne, Old S'cubie Cat on Jan 30, 2010 10:50:54 GMT -5
I'm confused.
Tony is head of the Road Warrior Brigade? With the armor and the face jewelry and the Really Big Truck? That was just too silly for me.
Alpha is on the side of good now? And welcomed as a comrade in arms and dear friend? When did that happen? And how? Not that I mind, but I'd like to know how we got from (a) to (f). Apparently, like the joke, "a miracle happens".
Oh, who do you think left the envelope for Echo on the chair? I say Alpha, since Adele told Echo that Alpha wanted all the tech destroyed, "starting with the chair". Which again begs the question, how did Alpha go from pyscho killer guy to empathy sweety guy? Not that I mind more Alan Tudyk, but inquiring minds want to know.
The rest of it I was able to guess about or just go with the flow. Poor Topher, at least he redeemed himself at the end. And how about that wall of photos? I am going to have to examine that more closely at some point when screencaps become available.
Adele and Topher, that made me a bit sniffly. They've both come so far and grown so much.
Yes, it looked to us like Fox (may their execs meet Mr Bolty and fail the test) clipped the ending.
I am considering watching this again, except that I don't know if it would make a difference. I have not seen "Epitaph One", although I read a synopsis and all the comments here. Would that have helped?
I put this one in the magnificent failure category. The components were good, but they didn't hold together as a whole. Which pretty much sums up my take on the show - good concepts, good acting, not put together coherently.
I doubt that even giving the show more time would've made a difference - it just would have got more complicated as it went on, kind of like what's happened with Lost."It's (a)! No, it's (b)! No, (b) isn't true either, we've changed our minds, it's (c)! No, it isn't, we lied, and why are you paying so much attention anyway, none of those things matter at all, it's something completely different." I call it Chris Carter syndrome.
Assume the IMO and all that. Don't hit me, it's just one stupid opinion.
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Post by Sue on Jan 30, 2010 13:58:46 GMT -5
I'm confused. Tony is head of the Road Warrior Brigade? With the armor and the face jewelry and the Really Big Truck? That was just too silly for me. Alpha is on the side of good now? And welcomed as a comrade in arms and dear friend? When did that happen? And how? Not that I mind, but I'd like to know how we got from (a) to (f). Apparently, like the joke, "a miracle happens". Oh, who do you think left the envelope for Echo on the chair? I say Alpha, since Adele told Echo that Alpha wanted all the tech destroyed, "starting with the chair". Which again begs the question, how did Alpha go from pyscho killer guy to empathy sweety guy? Not that I mind more Alan Tudyk, but inquiring minds want to know. The rest of it I was able to guess about or just go with the flow. Poor Topher, at least he redeemed himself at the end. And how about that wall of photos? I am going to have to examine that more closely at some point when screencaps become available. Adele and Topher, that made me a bit sniffly. They've both come so far and grown so much. Yes, it looked to us like Fox (may their execs meet Mr Bolty and fail the test) clipped the ending. I am considering watching this again, except that I don't know if it would make a difference. I have not seen "Epitaph One", although I read a synopsis and all the comments here. Would that have helped? I put this one in the magnificent failure category. The components were good, but they didn't hold together as a whole. Which pretty much sums up my take on the show - good concepts, good acting, not put together coherently. I doubt that even giving the show more time would've made a difference - it just would have got more complicated as it went on, kind of like what's happened with Lost."It's (a)! No, it's (b)! No, (b) isn't true either, we've changed our minds, it's (c)! No, it isn't, we lied, and why are you paying so much attention anyway, none of those things matter at all, it's something completely different." I call it Chris Carter syndrome. Assume the IMO and all that. Don't hit me, it's just one stupid opinion. Not trying to convince you that your reaction is not valid, I guess I just reacted differently. Well, it was set 10 years after the previous episode so lots and lots and lots went on that we didn't see. We kind of have to fill in the blanks of how they got from there to here by ourselves. I think on rewatch you might find a passing reference or two on Victor's choices and even a comment about how Alpha (what was the word?) redeemed himself. I'm going to assume it helped to have Ballard's brain/personality in the mix. Had we had a number of intervening seasons those kinds of things could have been explored in much greater detail. Alpha's would have been one of those "redemption" storylines. I thought the weakest points centered around 1. Topher being able to construct a world-wide mind reset (since it seemed the technology didn't just imprint you but WIPED out your previous self); 2. why when the widespread wipings happened everybody became violent (was there allusion to anything explaining that?); 3. what the heck all of the survivors are going to think when their minds are reset and they wake up to world-wide destruction -- can you really just tell some 10 year old "it's going to be all right" when her whole world has suddenly disappeared and she wakes up in the midst of strangers? But I'm will to let this one go because that's the next story, no time to tell it here). 4. but my most annoying nitpick was how Topher could invent the tech and yet not make it remote control---that was the part I felt was contrived. The rest I just thought was ... well, not so much "rushed" as pared down to the barest of bare bones outline. But that's all he had time for and under those conditions I thought he really did do a masterful job. Except that it showed how much more could have been delved into. The LOST folks should do half so well. Dollhouse was certainly an entirely, ENTIRELY different show at the end of season 2, than it was at the beginning of season 1. Buffy and Angel were also extremely changed by the end of their runs -- but we saw much more of the evolution.
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Post by Michelle on Jan 30, 2010 14:42:31 GMT -5
Things I liked in this episode. Topher making amends. The mini-Caroline. Wizard of Oz reference...Adele saying "I guess there really is no place like home." Tony with a tech upgrade. The way the tech heads used wear their 'prints' around their necks. Saying 'log off' instead of back off. Echo - "It's just the next thing." About the Asian techhead."She's a girl, Meg." Hehe. And then to her comment - You don't like girls? 'Apparently everyone does.' Paul and Echo. The music during the firefight to get into the Dollhouse. PAUL DEAD. ECHO'S REACTION. I both liked and disliked that part. The Dollhouse looking basically the same as it ever was. Alpha back and doing good! And cracking jokes with Victor! Topher's bed. OMG. Love it. "Every action effects our neural topography. We literally become what we do. Not what we've done or what we will do. We're best defined by our actions at the moment." Hmmmm.... Adele and Topher. Alpha's 'favor'. So very cool - his gift to Echo. Tony and Pria and their son. The flash and the reset. The little stripe of gray in Echo's hair. Paul and Echo. What I didn't like. The fact that it ended. (And the fact that they seemed to cut it short at the very end. WTF. Couldn't they even at least give us that? ) It was clearly the contents of an entire season, masterfully boiled down to the most necessary bare-bones outline. Like viewing the "Cliff-Notes" version of what could have been. And Joss is still able to bring shock, pathos, fear, despair, crushing loss and lonliness (Adelle's farewell to Topher was actually more moving to me than Echo's loss of Ballard), hope, comedy, amazingly pithy lines, startling one into actually laughing in the midst of all that. Amazing. And, as rocky as the show started off these last several episodes showed what could have been over the course of 4 or 5 or 6 seasons. A mythology easily the equal of Lost, IMO. Anyone who hires Joss needs to be prepared to stick it out through the first 8-10 eps and then watch him get up to speed. It's like, the further in he gets the more his brain revs up with more stories and more depth. I'd start a show of his in the summer and then promote the hell out of the back half of the season in January---like putting it on after the Superbowl. Is someone writing Victor/Spike crossover fic?Oooooh, that would be freaking AWESOME. If you find any, will you let me know?
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Post by Michelle on Jan 30, 2010 14:51:16 GMT -5
I thought Eliza Dushku did a good job with the mourning/freak out after Paul was killed. She's not the one-note actress I thought she was.
I did think it was strange that Paul indicated Echo had never let him in emotionally, because wasn't it quite the opposite just a few episodes ago? She wanted him, but he said he didn't know which personality he was with, so he rejected her. But ah yes, I remember now, his memories of her had been wiped, or was it just that his feelings for her had been wiped? Or something. So damn confusing. Of course 10 years had passed, so feelings are bound to change. And speaking of change--whoa, Alpha some hope became a "lapsed" psychopath. Interesting.
I still think Topher is supposed to represent Joss, or Joss' creative side, at least. So it's pretty unsettling that in the end he BLOWED HISSELF UP. But maybe I shouldn't read too much into it, because his name wasn't listed in the writing credits. Though we do know that Joss usually takes a run at the script, credit or now. So, yah, unsettling.
ETA: Felicia Day had a good line. Paul Ballard is expositioning, and says, "This is where things get interesting." And she says, "It was dull?"
HA!!
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Post by S'ewing S'cubie on Jan 30, 2010 15:23:01 GMT -5
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Post by Anne, Old S'cubie Cat on Jan 30, 2010 16:15:52 GMT -5
I'm confused. Tony is head of the Road Warrior Brigade? With the armor and the face jewelry and the Really Big Truck? That was just too silly for me. Alpha is on the side of good now? And welcomed as a comrade in arms and dear friend? When did that happen? And how? Not that I mind, but I'd like to know how we got from (a) to (f). Apparently, like the joke, "a miracle happens". Oh, who do you think left the envelope for Echo on the chair? I say Alpha, since Adele told Echo that Alpha wanted all the tech destroyed, "starting with the chair". Which again begs the question, how did Alpha go from pyscho killer guy to empathy sweety guy? Not that I mind more Alan Tudyk, but inquiring minds want to know. The rest of it I was able to guess about or just go with the flow. Poor Topher, at least he redeemed himself at the end. And how about that wall of photos? I am going to have to examine that more closely at some point when screencaps become available. Adele and Topher, that made me a bit sniffly. They've both come so far and grown so much. Yes, it looked to us like Fox (may their execs meet Mr Bolty and fail the test) clipped the ending. I am considering watching this again, except that I don't know if it would make a difference. I have not seen "Epitaph One", although I read a synopsis and all the comments here. Would that have helped? I put this one in the magnificent failure category. The components were good, but they didn't hold together as a whole. Which pretty much sums up my take on the show - good concepts, good acting, not put together coherently. I doubt that even giving the show more time would've made a difference - it just would have got more complicated as it went on, kind of like what's happened with Lost."It's (a)! No, it's (b)! No, (b) isn't true either, we've changed our minds, it's (c)! No, it isn't, we lied, and why are you paying so much attention anyway, none of those things matter at all, it's something completely different." I call it Chris Carter syndrome. Assume the IMO and all that. Don't hit me, it's just one stupid opinion. Not trying to convince you that your reaction is not valid, I guess I just reacted differently. Well, it was set 10 years after the previous episode so lots and lots and lots went on that we didn't see. We kind of have to fill in the blanks of how they got from there to here by ourselves. I think on rewatch you might find a passing reference or two on Victor's choices and even a comment about how Alpha (what was the word?) redeemed himself. I'm going to assume it helped to have Ballard's brain/personality in the mix. Had we had a number of intervening seasons those kinds of things could have been explored in much greater detail. Alpha's would have been one of those "redemption" storylines. I thought the weakest points centered around 1. Topher being able to construct a world-wide mind reset (since it seemed the technology didn't just imprint you but WIPED out your previous self); 2. why when the widespread wipings happened everybody became violent (was there allusion to anything explaining that?); 3. what the heck all of the survivors are going to think when their minds are reset and they wake up to world-wide destruction -- can you really just tell some 10 year old "it's going to be all right" when her whole world has suddenly disappeared and she wakes up in the midst of strangers? But I'm will to let this one go because that's the next story, no time to tell it here). 4. but my most annoying nitpick was how Topher could invent the tech and yet not make it remote control---that was the part I felt was contrived. The rest I just thought was ... well, not so much "rushed" as pared down to the barest of bare bones outline. But that's all he had time for and under those conditions I thought he really did do a masterful job. Except that it showed how much more could have been delved into. The LOST folks should do half so well. Dollhouse was certainly an entirely, ENTIRELY different show at the end of season 2, than it was at the beginning of season 1. Buffy and Angel were also extremely changed by the end of their runs -- but we saw much more of the evolution. That's a very good point. I hadn't thought of how Alpha having Ballard in the mix would affect him.Victor going Mad Max I could buy with some hand-waving - soldier reverting to what he knew best - it was the whole Road Warrior style I found silly. I've always thought the original was pretty silly-looking too. Topher having to set off the device himself, also worked for me if I don't think about it too much - he was rushed and besides, he had to pay for causing the whole mess in the first place. I got the feeling Topher welcomed death anyway. He was pretty broken by that point. One thing that did particularly bother me - Echo didn't destroy the chair, she just skipped off and hopped into her pod to dream of Paul, apparently. I would've liked, at least, to see the chair in pieces as she left the room. But then, I'm weird.
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Post by Karen on Feb 1, 2010 16:16:50 GMT -5
Things I liked in this episode. Topher making amends. The mini-Caroline. Wizard of Oz reference...Adele saying "I guess there really is no place like home." Tony with a tech upgrade. The way the tech heads used wear their 'prints' around their necks. Saying 'log off' instead of back off. Echo - "It's just the next thing." About the Asian techhead."She's a girl, Meg." Hehe. And then to her comment - You don't like girls? 'Apparently everyone does.' Paul and Echo. The music during the firefight to get into the Dollhouse. PAUL DEAD. ECHO'S REACTION. I both liked and disliked that part. The Dollhouse looking basically the same as it ever was. Alpha back and doing good! And cracking jokes with Victor! Topher's bed. OMG. Love it. "Every action effects our neural topography. We literally become what we do. Not what we've done or what we will do. We're best defined by our actions at the moment." Hmmmm.... Adele and Topher. Alpha's 'favor'. So very cool - his gift to Echo. Tony and Pria and their son. The flash and the reset. The little stripe of gray in Echo's hair. Paul and Echo. What I didn't like. The fact that it ended. (And the fact that they seemed to cut it short at the very end. WTF. Couldn't they even at least give us that? ) It was clearly the contents of an entire season, masterfully boiled down to the most necessary bare-bones outline. Like viewing the "Cliff-Notes" version of what could have been. And Joss is still able to bring shock, pathos, fear, despair, crushing loss and lonliness (Adelle's farewell to Topher was actually more moving to me than Echo's loss of Ballard), hope, comedy, amazingly pithy lines, startling one into actually laughing in the midst of all that. Amazing. And, as rocky as the show started off these last several episodes showed what could have been over the course of 4 or 5 or 6 seasons. A mythology easily the equal of Lost, IMO. Anyone who hires Joss needs to be prepared to stick it out through the first 8-10 eps and then watch him get up to speed. It's like, the further in he gets the more his brain revs up with more stories and more depth. I'd start a show of his in the summer and then promote the hell out of the back half of the season in January---like putting it on after the Superbowl. Is someone writing Victor/Spike crossover fic? Yes, amazing. The mythology surpassed that of LOST, because it was actually forthcoming in the first season. Maybe not the detail, but a good outline anyway. LOST is too fractured - too much going on and I don't get a feel of family like I did with The Dollhouse after the first season. That's an important element in a mythology. (Hopefully, this last season of LOST will pull all elements together. ) (Which is why I am going to love Caprica - the epic family story.) I am hoping Joss will do something on SyFy with Fray. I think it could be kick-ass.
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Post by Karen on Feb 1, 2010 16:32:31 GMT -5
I'm confused. Tony is head of the Road Warrior Brigade? With the armor and the face jewelry and the Really Big Truck? That was just too silly for me. Alpha is on the side of good now? And welcomed as a comrade in arms and dear friend? When did that happen? And how? Not that I mind, but I'd like to know how we got from (a) to (f). Apparently, like the joke, "a miracle happens".Oh, who do you think left the envelope for Echo on the chair? I say Alpha, since Adele told Echo that Alpha wanted all the tech destroyed, "starting with the chair". Which again begs the question, how did Alpha go from pyscho killer guy to empathy sweety guy? Not that I mind more Alan Tudyk, but inquiring minds want to know. The rest of it I was able to guess about or just go with the flow. Poor Topher, at least he redeemed himself at the end. And how about that wall of photos? I am going to have to examine that more closely at some point when screencaps become available. Adele and Topher, that made me a bit sniffly. They've both come so far and grown so much. Yes, it looked to us like Fox (may their execs meet Mr Bolty and fail the test) clipped the ending. I am considering watching this again, except that I don't know if it would make a difference. I have not seen "Epitaph One", although I read a synopsis and all the comments here. Would that have helped? I put this one in the magnificent failure category. The components were good, but they didn't hold together as a whole. Which pretty much sums up my take on the show - good concepts, good acting, not put together coherently. I doubt that even giving the show more time would've made a difference - it just would have got more complicated as it went on, kind of like what's happened with Lost."It's (a)! No, it's (b)! No, (b) isn't true either, we've changed our minds, it's (c)! No, it isn't, we lied, and why are you paying so much attention anyway, none of those things matter at all, it's something completely different." I call it Chris Carter syndrome. Assume the IMO and all that. Don't hit me, it's just one stupid opinion. A miracle in the form of good influence from Paul Ballard's imprint was what I was hoping for when Alpha got it a few episodes back. He showed a bit of mercy after getting it that made me hope for that scenario - plus the whole - 'kill me now' when Paul was in control of him made me think that Joss might be going that way. Kind of like how Faith got a bit of a spark of conscience from having switched bodies with Buffy that put her on the road to redemption. I Netflixed Epitath One and an 'Extra' something or other in the hopes that it will make things clearer. As far as Tony goes, I think his whole commando type persona came from the time he was put on that military team and the strong imprint he got at the time (strong similiarity between that and when Xander got some military skills from magic and later used them - Joss must have been thinking about this for some time, imo). It might have started out small with using just one imprint to protect Pria and expanded from there. Seeing that play out would have been interesting. Dang it. The envelope on the chair was left by Topher. It was the 'favor' Alpha asked of him just after they finished the device and before he left. Adele and Topher - very sniffly.
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Post by Karen on Feb 1, 2010 16:54:37 GMT -5
I thought Eliza Dushku did a good job with the mourning/freak out after Paul was killed. She's not the one-note actress I thought she was. I did think it was strange that Paul indicated Echo had never let him in emotionally, because wasn't it quite the opposite just a few episodes ago? She wanted him, but he said he didn't know which personality he was with, so he rejected her. But ah yes, I remember now, his memories of her had been wiped, or was it just that his feelings for her had been wiped? Or something. So damn confusing. Of course 10 years had passed, so feelings are bound to change. And speaking of change--whoa, Alpha some hope became a "lapsed" psychopath. Interesting. I still think Topher is supposed to represent Joss, or Joss' creative side, at least. So it's pretty unsettling that in the end he BLOWED HISSELF UP. But maybe I shouldn't read too much into it, because his name wasn't listed in the writing credits. Though we do know that Joss usually takes a run at the script, credit or now. So, yah, unsettling. ETA: Felicia Day had a good line. Paul Ballard is expositioning, and says, "This is where things get interesting." And she says, "It was dull?" HA!! ED did a great job with that scene! Playing a one-note doll for most of the eps made her look like a one-note actress, but we've seen her range on Angel, and she is so not one-note. Loved that FD line. I agree with you that Topher was Joss. Ten years of working side by side - his feelings for her must have returned. Made new connections, because I think it was the feelings that were removed. Can't remember exactly. Echo didn't let him in so easily, it seems, after being rejected by him, even though she knew the reason for it - she didn't risk being hurt again. And that's why she was so angry. She didn't risk it.
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Post by Karen on Feb 1, 2010 17:01:11 GMT -5
I think Joss gave us a Tony and Pria happy ending. And we were lucky to get that much. Joss was heavy on teh girl/girl llove (reminded me of the Buffy comic) in this ep, wasn't he? Didn't see it so much throughout the series, but wonder if he had had more time....who knows?
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Post by Karen on Feb 1, 2010 17:13:03 GMT -5
Not trying to convince you that your reaction is not valid, I guess I just reacted differently. Well, it was set 10 years after the previous episode so lots and lots and lots went on that we didn't see. We kind of have to fill in the blanks of how they got from there to here by ourselves. I think on rewatch you might find a passing reference or two on Victor's choices and even a comment about how Alpha (what was the word?) redeemed himself. I'm going to assume it helped to have Ballard's brain/personality in the mix. Had we had a number of intervening seasons those kinds of things could have been explored in much greater detail. Alpha's would have been one of those "redemption" storylines. I thought the weakest points centered around 1. Topher being able to construct a world-wide mind reset (since it seemed the technology didn't just imprint you but WIPED out your previous self); 2. why when the widespread wipings happened everybody became violent (was there allusion to anything explaining that?); 3. what the heck all of the survivors are going to think when their minds are reset and they wake up to world-wide destruction -- can you really just tell some 10 year old "it's going to be all right" when her whole world has suddenly disappeared and she wakes up in the midst of strangers? But I'm will to let this one go because that's the next story, no time to tell it here). 4. but my most annoying nitpick was how Topher could invent the tech and yet not make it remote control---that was the part I felt was contrived. The rest I just thought was ... well, not so much "rushed" as pared down to the barest of bare bones outline. But that's all he had time for and under those conditions I thought he really did do a masterful job. Except that it showed how much more could have been delved into. The LOST folks should do half so well. Dollhouse was certainly an entirely, ENTIRELY different show at the end of season 2, than it was at the beginning of season 1. Buffy and Angel were also extremely changed by the end of their runs -- but we saw much more of the evolution. That's a very good point. I hadn't thought of how Alpha having Ballard in the mix would affect him.Victor going Mad Max I could buy with some hand-waving - soldier reverting to what he knew best - it was the whole Road Warrior style I found silly. I've always thought the original was pretty silly-looking too. Topher having to set off the device himself, also worked for me if I don't think about it too much - he was rushed and besides, he had to pay for causing the whole mess in the first place. I got the feeling Topher welcomed death anyway. He was pretty broken by that point. One thing that did particularly bother me - Echo didn't destroy the chair, she just skipped off and hopped into her pod to dream of Paul, apparently. I would've liked, at least, to see the chair in pieces as she left the room. But then, I'm weird. I loved Mad Max. But it's very much a guy thing - the whole big/armored trucks, big guns, and the chest beating attitude. Agree that Topher was pretty broken by that point. I think it was a conscious decision on his part to have made it to set off manually. Echo not destroying the chair stuck out like a sore thumb. Sooo....I am assuming that Alpha's message to dismantle The Dollhouse - starting with the chair - was only sent to her so that she would get the envelope...and she realized that on some level that the chair might come in handy for good in the future. Or something.
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Post by Queen E on Feb 15, 2010 19:02:02 GMT -5
Weird trivia tidbit: The guy who played Zone? Was Scut Farkus in "A Christmas Story."
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