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Post by SpringSummers on Jan 31, 2010 16:51:01 GMT -5
I am making this thread so we can keep track of the type of thing that Liz and Sue posted in the Main Thread today - i.e., info on various types of diets and such. Monnie & I may not ending up using all suggestions, but I think it's nice to have a place to keep track of this kind of info. FYI, our blog is here: Link in the Scubie Photo Album
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Post by SpringSummers on Jan 31, 2010 16:52:11 GMT -5
From Liz:One of my professors with an interest in nutrition came up with this and a lot of people at school have been trying it. It's called the Elimination Diet.
www.yousendit.com/download/S1VEYURDVnNBNkhIRGc9PQ
And though I don't think it says so in the document, I think you can use it either as new eating guidelines, as method of periodically cleansing, or as a diagnostic test. That is, once you've been on the elimination diet for a week or so, add back, one item per week, the things that you eliminated and see what effect, if any there is. That way you can tell what, if anything, in your regular diet is having a negative impact on your health.
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ETA: Oh wait, here are the rest of the instructions, below from where I downloaded the file on black board.
"Heres the best first step in most chronic disease issues.
you do not need to follow the 7 day meal plan exactly, feel free to mix and match and do any meal you want anytime. just follow the restrictions for 4 weeks. then add one eliminated food at a time,, for 2 meals in one day. Then wait 48 hours for any reaction. If there is none, put the tried food aside and go onto the next item. If you get a reaction, wait until alll symptoms have subsided. If any foods cause a reaction, at the end of trying all the other foods, retry that food again to look for a reflare of symptoms.
It is not unusual to feel worse in the first 10 days of this NON calorie restricting diet. If you do, think alcoholic stopping alcohol. You det a detox and may feel worse. Its pretty good evidence that something youve eliminated is causing ar at least playing a role in the dysfunction."
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Post by SpringSummers on Jan 31, 2010 16:54:57 GMT -5
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Post by SpringSummers on Jan 31, 2010 16:56:24 GMT -5
From Liz:Spring and Monnie: You can also try the guidelines Michael Pollan laid out in In Defense of Food. I posted about them here.
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Jan 31, 2010 18:21:47 GMT -5
Are you going to try going vegan or vegetarian at some point? On the other side of the spectrum, there's the "eat meat" diet advocates like Adtkins and Sally Fallon (see Nourishing Traditions) I'm not sure what falls under "fad diets" for you.
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Post by SpringSummers on Jan 31, 2010 19:00:21 GMT -5
Are you going to try going vegan or vegetarian at some point? On the other side of the spectrum, there's the "eat meat" diet advocates like Adtkins and Sally Fallon (see Nourishing Traditions) I'm not sure what falls under "fad diets" for you. We talked about trying vegetarian and vegan . . . and I suppose we will try some low-carb and low-fat types of diets . . . I guess fad isn't really the word to use - I mean, a diet can be a "fad" but still be a good diet. So it would be better to say nothing "extreme." We're not going to go on anything that almost totally deprives us of carbs or fats or proteins (like an all fruit, or an all meat, or an all green veggie diet). We don't want to go on anything that seems risky or like it could compromise our health. I don't know that much about Adkins. I'd be willing to look at it, but - and I can't speak for Monnie - but I'm not a big believer in any of the extremes. To me, it's all about eating what you need, and using moderation - and most importantly, finding what works for you - i.e., finding something you can stick to, when the weight loss phase is over. And there is no way I can stick to an extreme low carb, or extreme low fat, diet. It will just make me crave and cave.
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Post by Onjel on Jan 31, 2010 19:30:14 GMT -5
Love this idea and love the blog! I'll be sure to visit it for following.
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Post by SpringSummers on Jan 31, 2010 20:09:37 GMT -5
From Michelle:If you run out of diets to try, I can recommend The No S Diet. The rules are dead simple, and make a lot of sense. I am following a modified version of it myself:nosdiet.com/
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Post by Sue on Feb 4, 2010 11:36:41 GMT -5
From Michelle:If you run out of diets to try, I can recommend The No S Diet. The rules are dead simple, and make a lot of sense. I am following a modified version of it myself:nosdiet.com/ www.nytimes.com/2010/02/02/health/02brod.html?emArticle mentions the No S diet at very bottom, but rest of article recommends the Michel Pollan books. His seven word summary: “Eat food. Not too much. Mostly plants.”
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Post by Karen on Feb 4, 2010 11:52:58 GMT -5
From Michelle:If you run out of diets to try, I can recommend The No S Diet. The rules are dead simple, and make a lot of sense. I am following a modified version of it myself:nosdiet.com/ www.nytimes.com/2010/02/02/health/02brod.html?emArticle mentions the No S diet at very bottom, but rest of article recommends the Michel Pollan books. His seven word summary: “Eat food. Not too much. Mostly plants.” I like that. I would add: Chew each mouthful 20 times Log in your food intake for the first month at the very least. Eat fresh food. (Limit, or better yet, eliminate over-processed foods.) Avoid high fructose corn syrup - but don't stress over it if you do eat it - it's in EVERYTHING processed. Have a small treat everyday. Move your butt. My friend eats a bowl of sugar free jello with fat-free Ready Whip topping every night. One can of the whip cream has like 200 calories - she goes through a can every few days. I think she's single-handedly bogarting Ottawa's supply.
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Post by Lola m on Feb 18, 2010 21:13:06 GMT -5
Here's a tip for anyone who finds it difficult sometimes to eat all the vegetables they should each day.
Take each of the recipes that you usually make, and find ways to add a vegetable or two to them. Like, I have a beef tips recipe that I serve over rice or noodles. Now, I can certainly serve a veg as a side dish with it, but I can also shred up carrot very fine and add it to the beef and sauce itself even though it wasn't in the original recipe. Or, as another example, my lasagna recipe. There are plenty of vegetables in the tomato sauce for it, but I can also decide to chop up some spinach and add that to the ricotta along with the basil and garlic and so on. And I have a "breast of chicken wrapped in ham with a creamy sauce over, again, rice or noodles" recipe. And I can add lovely sweet peas to that before I pop it into the oven!
And so on, and so on. Look at any given recipe and think of what one (more) veg could be added. Try it and, if you liked it, update the recipe on the spot and now that is the way it is made!
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Feb 19, 2010 19:50:07 GMT -5
But I did want to mention one thing first, which is that for the course we just started, Behavioral Neuroscience, we have to do a Team Health Improvement Plan project. My group is focusing on 4 categories: diet, physical activity, environmental impact, and spiritual/mental health, and we're going to track our progress throughout the duration of the course, which is 9 weeks.
Anyway, I've decided to post my personal progress to my "green" blog, and since Sara and Monnie and Spring are sharing their own self improvement efforts, I'll share mine as well. I'll put a link in my sig line the way Spring has, so you guys can check it out if you're interested. I'm doing a progress update weekly, not daily, probably every Sundayish. There's nothing there about the project right now, but as soon as I finish editing and submitting my personal plan, I'll post it.
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Post by Sue on Mar 9, 2010 18:42:15 GMT -5
I was reading a review of the latest version of the Atkins diet and the reviewer said to do the "DASH" diet instead. This is what it is: dashdiet.org/I've ordered the book from Amazon ($12.83 but I had 2 other books to bring it up to free shipping.)
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Mar 10, 2010 7:46:04 GMT -5
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Mar 10, 2010 16:53:00 GMT -5
On raw food:
From what little I've read, there are two camps on the subject; one that maintains that cooking food decreases the nutritional value or food, and the other that maintains that cooking increases the nutritional value of food. The truth is probably somewhere in between and probably varies depending on what you're talking about. And of course, there's the safety issue.
I think that trying the raw food diet for your experiment, Monnie and Spring, would probably require the most preparation out of any of the ones that you will try. Most of what's for sale in the grocery store would be right out, including anything precooked, anything pasteurized, anything that requires cooking to be edible. Vegan raw food would be easier to do since most of the safety issues surround meat and animal products, but you'd, well, have to go vegan for two weeks, which may or may not appeal to you. If you wanted to try raw animal products, you'd need to find trusted local sources, and even then, something like raw milk is illegal in most states. On the plus side, you'd get to experiment with sprouting grains, which is something I've always wanted to do.
And I do have many links, including recipes and food preparation ideas; however, my bookmarks are all a mess, so I can't really find them for you. A simple google-fu would probably find most of them pretty easily.
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