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Post by Anne, Old S'cubie Cat on May 19, 2010 21:04:39 GMT -5
hmmm, I guess this is a 'growing up British' difference - the Doctor always changes, and it's always sad, and then it's brilliant. sorry is more sad still for you. (did you watch on YouTube? Missing ten minutes doesn't help, no. Especially since the Doctor was busy becoming so he kept changing a bit as he went along.) I dunno; I manage.  Of course, that's probably because I started watching Doctor Who when I was 10 or so. Tom Baker, on PBS. I thought the notion of changing the actor was brilliant, once I got over losing Tom Baker. I'm not sure, yet...I like Eleven, but I sort of feel like he's channelling Ten a bit too much. Not quite different enough. On a side note: praying to Santa? Is this social commentary? I thought the praying to Santa was a pretty good representation of child of that age unclear on the concept. Wait until yours starts talking, and you find out what she's really thinking. Trust me, it'll be interesting. ;D |
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Post by Riff on May 27, 2010 0:30:53 GMT -5
Happy happy happy happy happy! *bouncing* That was the Doctor! That was totally the Doctor! And it was brilliant! And it was a writer kind of brilliant and a continuity refs kind of brilliant and an inner 5 year old kind of brilliant *and* a new actual five year old kind of brilliant all at once! Happy! *bounce* My reaction entirely.  Moffat says Doctor Who is a children's show, in the sense that it is for children of all ages. I like his writing philosophy. |
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Post by Riff on May 27, 2010 1:11:05 GMT -5
I do not know how I feel about this. Which could be colored by the fact that 10 minutes in the middle were cut out of the way I had to watch it. What can I say? I thought it was exciting and interesting. Yet I'm not used to the whole changing Doctor thing. Nine to Ten? Well, we only had Nine for a bit...but Ten was around for awhile...the whole time I was living in England. I guess it's rather appropriate that the "End of Time" aired right as I returned to England for the last time (as far as I know). I'm not quite adapted to the loss of Ten, I guess. Before the show started Moffat gave about a million interviews and was always very careful to say something like this: Really, there IS no eleventh Doctor. He's not eleven different people; he's the same man who can change his appearance. There are not eleven distinct egos, but a single continuing consciousness. Various aspects of his personality may shift and come to the fore, but that is merely the effect of being in a new body. It's like the way we act and think differently if we put on clothes that are very different to what we usually wear (but much more so, obviously!). I have a feeling that he was responding to the intimations of mortality in The End of Time, but this has always been his belief (RTD has said that his is the opposite - regeneration is death). For example, in the Forrest of the Dead podcast commentary (David Tennant, Russell T. Davies and Steven Moffat – three fan boys hilariously wallowing in DW trivia), Russell T. Davies says he doesn’t want to attach an adjective to the Tenth Doctor, because he doesn’t want him to enter the list of clown, dandy, bohemian, etc. Presumably this is because he doesn’t want the character to be limited. His comment causes Moffat to say this: SM: There’s a moment at which Patrick Troughton comes back to the part of the Doctor for The Three Doctors and he doesn’t play the same Doctor. I love The Three Doctors, but he doesn’t. He does an exaggerated version. He does the little tramp Doctor. But if you look at Patrick Troughton as the Doctor in black and white, he’s actually quite serious; he’s actually quite frightening. And so he’s become the caricature Doctor precisely because there are two of them. The three discuss whether this was in the writing or Troughton’s performance. SM: But I think it starts the process of defining them as different, and obviously the real challenge of switching Doctors round is frankly saying it’s the same man. It’s the same man looking through those eyes. David Tennant suggests that Troughton’s experience told him about the different context he was in. SM: If he’d actually played it the way he had before, it would just be two men playing the Doctor. They’re just both the Doctor. And once the serious stuff hits the Doctors are, you know, they’re the same man. SM: This man is definitely the same guy you've been following, really, absolutely, still him. So, the Doctor hasn't changed, merely his body. Of course, that may be what you actually regret. ;D Seriously, though. It's interesting (fascinating, actually) to view Smith's performance from this perspective: "I do believe that the character we're looking at is the same one William Hartnell played." Because these ideas are reflected in the writing and acting - look out for them! |
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Post by Riff on May 27, 2010 1:47:44 GMT -5
A crack going on forever – two bits of space and time that should never have come together. I love this little girl Amelia Pond. Feisty! She’s all ready to go with him, isn’t she? And his “5 minutes” are gong to be longer than that, aren’t they? And prisoner zero was soooooo inside that room where the door is open now, wasn’t he/it? Perception filter! Cool! Hiding a whole door and room! Eeeeeeep! Behind you!!! Run! Eeeky snakey thing! We have back up, we don’t, that would be back-up, we’re safe, we’re not, we’re safe – well, except apart from incineration. HA!! ;D Ha! I soooo knew she was actually Amelia Pond before the doctor did.  Can she make the leap to believing him? Again? Yep! Time to save the world (again)! I love how absolutely everyone knows who the Doctor is and the prisoner zero stuff and all from her stories and cartoons and what not. Heeee! “He just sort of melted and went down the drain!” “Well, of course he did.” Best man Jeff. “Why me?” “It’s your bedroom.” HA!! It must have been hella fun, being those little girl actors, getting to growl and chase after people. Waiting for the Doctor to return – not this time, Amelia – oh but yes this time! Yes! The universe is cracked, and prisoner zero is implying that the Doctor is responsible, ya? Cool! Zero’s all over the world. Oh! I thought the prisoner was going to look like Amelia, not the Doctor. OH! Like both. Dream about what you saw – dream about the prisoner, so that it looks like it should look. “The perfect impersonation of yourself.” Nice way to trap it. Silence will fall and the cracks in the universe thing is going to be a recurring theme for this new season, yes? “Did you think no one was watching?” Love when the Doctor gets all butch and Time Lordy.  Also? Love the montage of Doctors. “Basically. Run.” Heeee! Yeah, you tell ‘em, Doctor! TARDIS all better now and a new companion on board and off we go – wheeeeee!!  So observant! But did you notice... The human-shaped shadow that moves through the house just as the Doctor leaves little Amy. It can't be prisoner zero, because at that point it hasn't had the time (which the episode states) to take on a form. And, BTW, why should a small village have so many people in comas, anyway? When we see the Doctor remembering everything he has seen on the village green, there is a clear and deliberate shot of Rory's ID badge. It was issued in 1990, eighteen years previously... Geoff's laptop is made by a company called MYTH. When the Doctor and Amy set off on their travels, the TARDIS clock shows the forward movement through time, but it switches from AM to PM when it should be the other way round. I'd have said this was a simple production mistake, if it wasn't for the fact that exactly the same thing happens later on in the series, on the clock in Amy's bedroom. Hmmm. At the end of the episode, the crack appears on the TARDIS monitor. The Doctor deliberately distracts Amy from seeing it, then, as she walks away, he turns the monitor off, looking relieved that she didn't notice. Did you really believe that arriving-two-years-late-I've-just-been-to-the-Moon-and-back-to-run-her-in stuff? I don't. He knows more than he's letting on. At least, this version of him does... The dream Amy has just before this, when she is waiting for him as a little girl, shows her looking up as the TARDIS materialises after all. Just a dream, or did it happen in some wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey way? I suspect the latter. Something big and complex is going on under our noses here. Great! ;D |
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Post by Riff on May 27, 2010 1:56:41 GMT -5
Yes! **bounces happily with becca** It took me a few weeks to adjust to DT's Doctor. This one will probably be the same. I like his not-quite-humanness, but his features are strange and off-putting. I will miss DT's puppydog eyes. New TARDIS. It heals itself--Is the TARDIS a living thing? I hope the new Doctor is as wise as the last two. Loved the parade of the Doctors. Wonderful homage and touch of continuity. Big scary eye in the sky. BIG scary eye in the sky. Does anybody else feel the creepy that the weeping angels are coming back? Scariest monsters EVER! Not only is she alive, she's female. Feminine pronouns were always used in the old days, but this stopped with RTD. Moffat says that the TARDIS is the real love of the Doctor's life. There was some lovely dialogue in the ep. [stroking the doors in concern] "She's still restoring, not letting us in." "Look at you. Oh, you sexy thing. Look at you!" "Thanks, dear." |
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Post by Riff on May 27, 2010 1:59:23 GMT -5
I do miss DT, but that is the nature of Doctor Who.  I suspect this new guy will grow on me like they all did, with their odd little quirks and unique looks. I got a distinct Peter Pan vibe during this episode. I wonder how intentional that is, or if it is just a running theme of human nature that I am seeing - the 'growing up' and 'coming of ageness' of it all. Both for the Doctor and the various companions. Doctor Who, although the same being, resets to child-like at the introduction of a new Doctor. He remembers his past - but not totally at first. Seems like he struggles to recall at least details of his past, or maybe it is the fact that he is a new being and sees his past sort of removed from it and from a different perspective. ?? hmmmm I did google "Peter Pan/Doctor Who comparison" and came up with a good review of the episodes. Doctor Who Episode 1.1 Shouldn't that be 11.1? The Eleventh Hour....hmmmm Wiki definition
The eleventh hour is a colloquial expression meaning "a time which is nearly too late".The Peter Pan thing was deliberate, apparently. Wendy flies away with Peter in the middle of the night, wearing her nightdress. |
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Post by Riff on May 27, 2010 2:13:12 GMT -5
hmmm, I guess this is a 'growing up British' difference - the Doctor always changes, and it's always sad, and then it's brilliant. sorry is more sad still for you. (did you watch on YouTube? Missing ten minutes doesn't help, no. Especially since the Doctor was busy becoming so he kept changing a bit as he went along.) I dunno; I manage. Of course, that's probably because I started watching Doctor Who when I was 10 or so. Tom Baker, on PBS. I thought the notion of changing the actor was brilliant, once I got over losing Tom Baker. I'm not sure, yet...I like Eleven, but I sort of feel like he's channelling Ten a bit too much. Not quite different enough. On a side note: praying to Santa? Is this social commentary? As I noted (well, it's a bit of a long note, actually) in my reply to Erin, Moffat very definitely believes the Doctor merely changes body, not personality or self. The idea is that he is still trying to act and behave as he did in his last body, but it doesn't work very well and he has to adapt to a new body. We don't see Smith's real performance begin until he returns for Amy at the end (I strongly suspect that more time has passed for him at this point than he claims). Did you hear about the model of Santa in a Japanese department store, crucified? Probably not true, but it should be. ;D |
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Post by Riff on Jun 1, 2010 13:51:45 GMT -5
Watch that pre-titles sequence again. Even more so, listen to it again. It is wholly at odds with the rest of the episode, indeed with the rest of the season (so far, at least). What do we have? London landmarks, silly humour, and a ridiculous, bombastic and overloud score. Pure farce. It’s hard not to conclude that there is some (presumably affectionate) ribbing of RTD going on, here. More charitably, we could see this as homage, as a last hurrah to some of the more camp excesses of last five (or maybe four) years. Anyway, the Doctor doesn’t need to worry about being castrated by Big Ben. He’s still in the first fifteen hours of his regeneration cycle. He’d just grow a new set. I wonder if Captain Jack would want to keep what was lost in a jar? ;D
Then, new titles and a new version of the theme. Both are slowly growing on me. The titles may have some significance, but that won’t be suggested until much further into the season.
And then, from camp to Del Toro magic. Suddenly, we are in an emotional world not dissimilar to the opening of Pan’s Labyrinth. That this is charmingly undercut with an amusing food scene only adds to a sense of access into a privileged world, that of the child. The Doctor always connects immediately with children, perhaps because they sense that he is basically one of them. The difference, of course, is that he takes responsibility, in this case instantly deciding to solve Amelia’s problem. Young Amelia Pond is fearless but open to being hurt, is somehow both tough and vulnerable (always an intriguing combination). What do you mean you didn’t get a lump in your throat at seeing her go dashing out in a little hat and red Wellingtons to wait for the Doctor? You have no soul.
Why does Amelia have no parents (a house fire, if drawings on her wall are anything to go by)? Why does her aunt leave her alone at night, aged seven? Why do we never see this aunt?
It’s perhaps obvious what will happen here, but there is an unexpected twist. Just as he did with Reinette and River Song, Steven Moffat is again drawing on the tropes of The Time Traveller’s Wife. But this time, things have gone badly wrong. The TARDIS arrives twelve years, rather than the promised five minutes, later and Amelia has been damaged. As she grew up, the Doctor became her imaginary friend and an obsession, causing her to make drawings and models of him. She made her friend Rory dress as the “Raggedy” Doctor. And this is clearly more serious than normal childhood play, because her behaviour was extreme enough to warrant four psychiatrists.
She has tried to close herself to the magic and wonder so briefly offered to her at age seven. She is now Amy Pond, because Amelia is “a bit fairytale”. She works as a kissagram and clearly has little time for romance. She has built herself a shell of cynicism. As Moffat puts it, “I’ll bet she was mean about the tooth fairy. I’ll bet she was mean about Santa Claus.” To protect herself, she has become a survivor, dependent on no one. And all of this is to reject the memory of the Raggedy Doctor, her imaginary friend… Who then comes back to bounce off the layers of cynicism twelve-years thick.
And so we are into the story of Prisoner Zero. At this stage, the plot seems less important than what led to it: cracks in time and space. Something is very wrong here, from the duck pond with no ducks through to Prisoner Zero’s mocking cry, “The Doctor in the TARDIS doesn’t know!” But, he isn’t in the TARDIS, is he? What does it all mean? As the few mentions in my post to Lola above show, there is a lot more going on than meets the eye.
We are introduced to Amy’s “sort of” boyfriend Rory, ineffectual but rather sweet. At this stage, it seems he is besotted with her while she isn’t so bothered. And he seems all too aware of this. We’ll see him again later in the series, but at the end of this ep we will wonder afresh what his role is.
After the Doctor’s defeat of Prisoner Zero, during his telling-off of the Atraxi, there is the wonderful montage of all his predecessors. Obviously I’m going to mention that. The conclusion to this, Matt Smith stepping through the image of David Tennant to announce that he is the Doctor, is more than just obvious symbolism. It represents him finally coming to terms with his new body. Following Moffat’s endlessly repeated insistence that the Doctor is the same man who simply changes bodies, we see the same mind that was in the body of David Tennant finally begin to be more at home in the body of Matt Smith, and this involves a shift in persona more suited to this particular model. Though he isn’t fully settled until the very last scene.
This time, he is two years late, making it a total of “fourteen years since fish custard”. Now we see really see the “new” Doctor for the first time. He claims he just went on a trip to the moon and back, but something isn’t quite right, especially during the sequence when we as the viewer see the crack in the TARDIS monitor. The exchange of conversation somehow implies that he has returned for Amy for a reason other than the ones he gives. The old question comes back fresh once more: Doctor Who?
Amy herself doesn’t know what to think. During the scene we see a number of occasions when innocence and wonder return to her, only for alarms to go off in her head and her defences to be raised once more. Significantly, the last panning shot juxtaposes her childhood and adulthood, as her drawings and models of the Raggedy Doctor give way to the image of her wedding dress. She has run away with her imaginary friend on the night before her wedding.
Much is going on in this episode just beyond the reach of our understanding, and who Amy is seems to be a part of that. Her sexuality is funny and playful, but it also has that darker aspect of disrespect and betrayal. In his first interview on the new season in Doctor Who Magazine, Steven Moffat, from the perspective he has now as a happily-married family man, says this:
“There are almost no people like James Bond. People don’t really behave like the vamps of either sex the way they do in the movies; we have relationships with people, and we fall in love with them, and then we do all that… We want to believe in love more than we want to believe in sex, we always do.”
What this may mean for Amy Pond, we will see.
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Post by Queen E on Jun 9, 2010 1:23:19 GMT -5
OK, I've finally managed to see the whole of the first episode.
I suppose I would see the rebuilding of the TARDIS as a metaphor for the slow growth, throughout the episode, of the audience adjustment to the new Doctor. I'm not seeing, to the same extent as our resident expert, the previous ten Doctors in his performance, since I've really only experienced two (well, three, but my Tom Baker memories are quite vague). I don't quite see Nine's sadness yet, although I do get a bit of Ten in the brashness. I do like the dual meanings of the title: the Eleventh Hour as both "the last minute" and "the first hour of Eleven."
Still, he hasn't quite grown on me yet. As Ten said in "Time Crash," Ten was "my doctor." And DW is unique in the way it builds in recasting the main character. I can't think of an American series that would take that risk...and it is a lot to get my head around.
But I'll keep with it, I promise.
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Post by Riff on Jun 9, 2010 7:26:05 GMT -5
OK, I've finally managed to see the whole of the first episode. I suppose I would see the rebuilding of the TARDIS as a metaphor for the slow growth, throughout the episode, of the audience adjustment to the new Doctor. I'm not seeing, to the same extent as our resident expert, the previous ten Doctors in his performance, since I've really only experienced two (well, three, but my Tom Baker memories are quite vague). I don't quite see Nine's sadness yet, although I do get a bit of Ten in the brashness. I do like the dual meanings of the title: the Eleventh Hour as both "the last minute" and "the first hour of Eleven." Still, he hasn't quite grown on me yet. As Ten said in "Time Crash," Ten was "my doctor." And DW is unique in the way it builds in recasting the main character. I can't think of an American series that would take that risk...and it is a lot to get my head around. But I'll keep with it, I promise. Resident expert? Is that me? For many people, a change of Doctors is initially difficult. Honestly, you'll come to like him. It's always an odd idea - the same man in a very different mood. Anyway, the season doesn't really kick off until episode four (I'm just about to post an outrageously long review for that one). My first Doctor was Jon Pertwee, but the one who was my Doctor was Tom Baker (he arrived when I was four). I'm still watching, twenty years after he went to the big police box in the sky. As I said in further up this page, you don't see Smith's real performance begin until the last few minutes, when he returns for Amy at the end. An interesting idea, the notion of the TARDIS rebuilding as a metaphor for growth and change from the audience's perspective. I also like the multiple meanings of the number eleven, and future eps lead me to believe there may be more. Next episode is a strange parable of democracy and exploitation, built around characterisation. Smith shifts from the hand-wringing and kindly explanations of Patrick Troughton, the gentleness of Peter Davison and the alienness of Tom Baker, to the utter contempt and disappointment of Christopher Ecclestone and the rage of Tom Baker. Within my monomania, anyway. ;D |
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Post by Lola m on Jun 11, 2010 20:23:56 GMT -5
OK, I've finally managed to see the whole of the first episode. I suppose I would see the rebuilding of the TARDIS as a metaphor for the slow growth, throughout the episode, of the audience adjustment to the new Doctor. I'm not seeing, to the same extent as our resident expert, the previous ten Doctors in his performance, since I've really only experienced two (well, three, but my Tom Baker memories are quite vague). I don't quite see Nine's sadness yet, although I do get a bit of Ten in the brashness. I do like the dual meanings of the title: the Eleventh Hour as both "the last minute" and "the first hour of Eleven." Still, he hasn't quite grown on me yet. As Ten said in "Time Crash," Ten was "my doctor." And DW is unique in the way it builds in recasting the main character. I can't think of an American series that would take that risk...and it is a lot to get my head around. But I'll keep with it, I promise. Resident expert? Is that me? For many people, a change of Doctors is initially difficult. Honestly, you'll come to like him. It's always an odd idea - the same man in a very different mood. Anyway, the season doesn't really kick off until episode four (I'm just about to post an outrageously long review for that one). My first Doctor was Jon Pertwee, but the one who was my Doctor was Tom Baker (he arrived when I was four). I'm still watching, twenty years after he went to the big police box in the sky. As I said in further up this page, you don't see Smith's real performance begin until the last few minutes, when he returns for Amy at the end. An interesting idea, the notion of the TARDIS rebuilding as a metaphor for growth and change from the audience's perspective. I also like the multiple meanings of the number eleven, and future eps lead me to believe there may be more. Next episode is a strange parable of democracy and exploitation, built around characterisation. Smith shifts from the hand-wringing and kindly explanations of Patrick Troughton, the gentleness of Peter Davison and the alienness of Tom Baker, to the utter contempt and disappointment of Christopher Ecclestone and the rage of Tom Baker. Within my monomania, anyway. ;D I always find it fascinating to hear from people who "their" Doctor is. And also fascinating is how many will say Tom Baker, like me. ;D 'Course, I figure that's partly because he was the Doctor for such a long run. And I forget sometimes just how much I loved Peter Davison too. Such a sweet version. |
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Post by Riff on Jun 12, 2010 7:06:15 GMT -5
Resident expert? Is that me? For many people, a change of Doctors is initially difficult. Honestly, you'll come to like him. It's always an odd idea - the same man in a very different mood. Anyway, the season doesn't really kick off until episode four (I'm just about to post an outrageously long review for that one). My first Doctor was Jon Pertwee, but the one who was my Doctor was Tom Baker (he arrived when I was four). I'm still watching, twenty years after he went to the big police box in the sky. As I said in further up this page, you don't see Smith's real performance begin until the last few minutes, when he returns for Amy at the end. An interesting idea, the notion of the TARDIS rebuilding as a metaphor for growth and change from the audience's perspective. I also like the multiple meanings of the number eleven, and future eps lead me to believe there may be more. Next episode is a strange parable of democracy and exploitation, built around characterisation. Smith shifts from the hand-wringing and kindly explanations of Patrick Troughton, the gentleness of Peter Davison and the alienness of Tom Baker, to the utter contempt and disappointment of Christopher Ecclestone and the rage of Tom Baker. Within my monomania, anyway. ;D I always find it fascinating to hear from people who "their" Doctor is. And also fascinating is how many will say Tom Baker, like me. ;D 'Course, I figure that's partly because he was the Doctor for such a long run. And I forget sometimes just how much I loved Peter Davison too. Such a sweet version. You know, I like them all. Colin Baker and Silvester McCoy were often badly served with scripts and dreadful production decisions on television, but in the monthly audio plays now they absolutely shine (in fact, Colin Baker was once voted best ever Doctor in Doctor Who Magazine on the strength of his audio performances, believe it or not). Similarly, McGann has had some superb scripts and performances on audio. And Peter Davison is a well-loved audio Doctor. There's a trilogy of plays coming out this summer with him, Tegan, Turlough and Nyssa (all original cast, of course). |
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Post by Anne, Old S'cubie Cat on Aug 19, 2010 17:06:21 GMT -5
Just watched the Madame de Pompadour episode, "The Girl in the Fireplace", also written by Mr Moffat. I didn't want to put this there because some people haven't got to this season yet, so here it goes. That episode has interesting, um, what's the word I want, previews of Amy Pond - another monster under the bed, another crack/portal in the wall, another girl who waited, another Doctor who was always late. I don't know if this makes any sense at all, but it did while I was watching...  |
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Post by Riff on Aug 23, 2010 3:32:19 GMT -5
Just watched the Madame de Pompadour episode, "The Girl in the Fireplace", also written by Mr Moffat. I didn't want to put this there because some people haven't got to this season yet, so here it goes. That episode has interesting, um, what's the word I want, previews of Amy Pond - another monster under the bed, another crack/portal in the wall, another girl who waited, another Doctor who was always late. I don't know if this makes any sense at all, but it did while I was watching... Absolutely. You know, I think Mr Moffat may have read The Time Traveller's Wife. Just a wild guess. |
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Post by Sue on Jan 5, 2011 14:49:14 GMT -5
OK, I've finally managed to see the whole of the first episode. I suppose I would see the rebuilding of the TARDIS as a metaphor for the slow growth, throughout the episode, of the audience adjustment to the new Doctor. I'm not seeing, to the same extent as our resident expert, the previous ten Doctors in his performance, since I've really only experienced two (well, three, but my Tom Baker memories are quite vague). I don't quite see Nine's sadness yet, although I do get a bit of Ten in the brashness. I do like the dual meanings of the title: the Eleventh Hour as both "the last minute" and "the first hour of Eleven." Still, he hasn't quite grown on me yet. As Ten said in "Time Crash," Ten was "my doctor." And DW is unique in the way it builds in recasting the main character. I can't think of an American series that would take that risk...and it is a lot to get my head around. But I'll keep with it, I promise. Resident expert? Is that me? For many people, a change of Doctors is initially difficult. Honestly, you'll come to like him. It's always an odd idea - the same man in a very different mood. Anyway, the season doesn't really kick off until episode four (I'm just about to post an outrageously long review for that one). My first Doctor was Jon Pertwee, but the one who was my Doctor was Tom Baker (he arrived when I was four). I'm still watching, twenty years after he went to the big police box in the sky. As I said in further up this page, you don't see Smith's real performance begin until the last few minutes, when he returns for Amy at the end. An interesting idea, the notion of the TARDIS rebuilding as a metaphor for growth and change from the audience's perspective. I also like the multiple meanings of the number eleven, and future eps lead me to believe there may be more. Next episode is a strange parable of democracy and exploitation, built around characterisation. Smith shifts from the hand-wringing and kindly explanations of Patrick Troughton, the gentleness of Peter Davison and the alienness of Tom Baker, to the utter contempt and disappointment of Christopher Ecclestone and the rage of Tom Baker. Within my monomania, anyway. ;D Reviews? Where are these, Riff? Are they just posts within the episodes discussions because on the website the last date listed is from 2005. Y'all I'm just getting around to watching this season and am finding your comments fascinating and enlightening. Haven't thought of anything to add yet, but keep posting so I can read! |
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