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Post by Lola m on May 23, 2010 21:47:19 GMT -5
"I don't believe in a lot of things. But I do believe in duct tape." Hell, yeah! "We're gettin' off the ground while there's still ground to get off of." Dive, dive, dive! It's the Mystical Vending Machine of Importantness. JULIET! SAWYER! NOW GO FOR COFFEE, YOU TWO CRAZY KIDS! Memories . . . light the darkened vending machine area . . . doomed island-colored memories . . . of the way we blew things up last season . . .
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Post by Vlad on May 23, 2010 21:48:02 GMT -5
Is Jack gonna look effulgent? Vlad It's sure starting to look that way, isn't it? Only with a big ol' stone plug in the evil vent of the island's glowy place. Um. That went a direction I wasn't expecting . . . If there's one thing we can expect form you, it's a statement like that... unexpectedly. Vlad
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Post by Matthew on May 23, 2010 21:49:47 GMT -5
Seriously. I don't care if it turns out it's all taking place in Dennis Franz's mind. Now that Juliet and Sawyer are reunited, the rest of the show has a total free freaking pass from me.
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Post by Lola m on May 23, 2010 22:06:25 GMT -5
"No. That's not how you know me." Jack is still fighting the sidewaysverse kool-aid. "No way. I'm not gonna let you die." Oh, Hurley. OMG! It is Hugo. Someone to take care of the island, to protect it. Passing the cup to Hugo. Plane go whir! Jack goes down down down. Like Locke falling down to the donkey wheel pit. Desmond's not dead! Whoa! "You were right, Jack." "There's a first time for everything." "You've done enough. You want to do something, go home to your wife and kid. I'll see you in another life, brother." Damn! "That ain't good." Run for the plane, people!! Including you, crazy!cave!Claire! Run for the motherfuckin' plane!! Jack! Plane people! Go go go!! Holy crap that plane actually flew!! Holy fuckin' crap!! Are they actually gonna do it?! **waits for this one to fall out of the sky too** Glowy water pit is back to being the glowy water pit! Damn! And they're gonna pull up Desmond, not Jack. Jaaaaaaaack!!
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Post by Matthew on May 23, 2010 22:06:37 GMT -5
Oh, good. Kate remembers, so she can pester him until he does, too.
heh. She is using this universe's explanation first.
"No, that's not how you know me."
"I've missed you so much" and Jack is having what appears to be a spaz fit as he deals with having to accept that he's got two different sets of memories.
"If you come with me, you will"
So where are they all going?
Jack's not planning on surviving.
Shortest tenure as an Island Guardian ever.
"then if someone needs to protect the island, then it should be you" "I believe in you" tossed right back at him.
Jack knows how to pass it along. Wonder how Ben feels about not being the chosen one.
"Now you're like me" what, full of good intentions and angst and weird father issues?
"Giving it right back to you"
So this stewardship of Hugo's and this sacrifice Jack is building to only means something if the island and this universe continue to exist.
"You were right, Jack" "There's a first time for everything" saying what all of us are thinking, Jack, what all of as are thinking.
Sending Desmond home to Penny. If anyone can find their way off of there, to Penny, it's O-DES-yess.
"see you in another life, brother" oh, wonderful parting note.
Yes, convinced her to go home!!
IF they can catch the last plane outa Saigon, here.
YAY! Lapidus sees them!!
Jack back in the fiery cave of doom, with the Drainplug of Significance....
And it's gonna be Jack who is gonna be the next black, smoke-shaped incarnation of the island.
Still calls him Enos. here and there, both!
Clenchies, clenchies, clenchies, clenched.. OFF SHE GOES!!!!!
*Tachycardia ending, hearbeat returning to normal...*
huh. this way the jaters and the skaters and the Suliets can all three have their way.
Wow, pretty.. and Jack is in delighted ecstasy.. and they are pulling up Desmond, as Jack remains behind, to become the much-less-cranky avatar.
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Post by Lola m on May 23, 2010 22:06:57 GMT -5
Seriously. I don't care if it turns out it's all taking place in Dennis Franz's mind. Now that Juliet and Sawyer are reunited, the rest of the show has a total free freaking pass from me. ;D
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Post by Lola m on May 23, 2010 22:07:34 GMT -5
It's sure starting to look that way, isn't it? Only with a big ol' stone plug in the evil vent of the island's glowy place. Um. That went a direction I wasn't expecting . . . If there's one thing we can expect form you, it's a statement like that... unexpectedly. Vlad
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Post by Matthew on May 23, 2010 22:29:49 GMT -5
Now, this has got to be hella AMA behavior Locke has got going on.
Ah, Ben, and this is.. ah, this is where they were going when they said "come with us"
"I forgive you"
"things to work out"
"Goodbye, Ben"
Maybe the church represents ascension into heaven.
Again, how with the Hugo and Ben and Kate and Sawyer being alive?
"I think you do with what you do best. Take care of people"
"Get Desmond home" "People can't leave the island" "That's how Jacob ran things" and lots of people left under his stewardship.
"Will you help me, Ben?" "I'd be honored" and wow, it's amazing how touching that is.
"You were a real good number two" "and you were a great number one"
It is purgatory. a place out of time and space... Ben and Hugo have both died and are speaking of all of their memories of all their experiences of the island, even after Sawyer and Kate and Lapidus et. al. ave escaped.
"When you're ready to leave"
And hello, Island Avatar Jack!
Cut back to the back entrance of the church. Christian's casket.
And THAT is what finally breaks all the floodgates. and tells him where he is, what he is, and what he needs to do next.
and Desmond didn't even bother to get the corpse of somebody else!! Oh, yeah, maybe not. There he is.
"I died too"
Must be a unitarian church.
"The place you all made together so that you could find one another" oh, that's so much nicer than purgatory. That this shaping event in their existence is such that they find each other even in the afterlife.
"Moving on"
*Warm Happy Heaven's Anteroom shivers*
PENNY AND DESMOND!! Boonie!
JACK/SAWER HAPPY LOVING HUG! Oh, even just as a brotherly thing, it's wonderful.
So neatly intercut with scenes of Jack.. ROSE! BERNARD!
And it closes on the same scene it opens with, Jack, in a bamboo grove, looking up, with a dog running past. Only Vincent stayed with him so he doesn't have to die alone.....
Libby!!!!! And the plane going by as they escape..
and we close on Jack's eye closing.
Wow, that was.. actually kind of freaking wonderful.
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Post by Lola m on May 23, 2010 22:30:15 GMT -5
Is everyone already inside? And we get, OMG, a sincere apology from Ben? "You were special. I wasn't." Ben's gonna "stay there" awhile, he has things to work out. And Locke just, doesn't need the chair anymore. "Jack's gone, isn't he?" "He did his job, Hugo." Do what you do best, take care of people. Another way to run the island, a better way. And Hugo asks Ben to help. OMG! "I'd be honored." And then the "you were great" conversations. Purgatory/way-station/half-way house for the dead is looking like a very very excellent possibility, isn't it? JACK! ISLAND JACK! Wait, does that mean he's Smokey now? That would be soooo not cool. Daddy issues are the key to really waking up Jack's memories! Of course!!! Ah, coffin's empty. Nobody home. Except for dead dad visiting you one more time. "I died too." Yep. Only this daddy is waaaaay nicer than the previous dead daddies. Aha! There is no now, here. "This is the place that you all made together, so you could find one another." I like this. That the island was real, and this sideways stuff is all "after" everything. They all meet up and move on. "Where're we going?" "Let's find out." So, did he die in the crash, or are they just mirroring the crash imagery in his death scene this time? No!! The island stuff did happen!! And the others got off the island OK on the Ajira flight!!
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Post by Lola m on May 23, 2010 22:31:45 GMT -5
OMG, I have to go to bed now or I'll never get up in time for work.
**must process ending**
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Post by Matthew on May 23, 2010 22:32:27 GMT -5
Looks from the stained glass that it was a UU church. Perfect location.
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Post by Sue on May 23, 2010 22:56:13 GMT -5
Don't know what others will think but I liked it.
I love a happy ending. It's like re-writing Romeo and Juliet to see them in heaven together.
It's like the end of the Tolkien trilogy -- Aragorn gets elf-lady; Faramir gets horse-lady; Sam gets Rosie; bittersweet for Frodo, but he gets to go "over the sea."
It's like the end of the Narnia books -- The Last Battle -- where they are all in the train accident but then they are in Narnia and going "further up and further in" and they find all their loved ones.
I LOVE a happy, sappy ending. It wasn't exactly Christian imagery because, duh, no Jesus figure. I don't think everything about the island was ever explained (take out the plug, oh bad idea, put the plug back in) -- who knows how long Hurley actually lived on the island with only Benry for company.
But nice imagery at the end.
And Happy HAPPY HAPPY! endings all around for everybody. I was a mess every 15 minutes as people got their memories back.
So maybe the island was just a metaphor for life: there is good; there is evil; there is the unknown and the unexplained and the good decisions and the bad decisions but through it all are the relationships, both friendships and love-ships, that carry us through and survive and sustain us.
Not a bad message. Given what they had to live up to, my personal opinion is that it was great! I may never rewatch the ep, but if it were a book I'd definitely re-read it.
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Post by RAKSHA on May 23, 2010 22:57:46 GMT -5
Well.
On the plus side; Jack finally got to fix something really big - the Island itself. And Kate and Sawyer and Miles and Richard and Lapidus and Claire have left.
And Vincent Lives! (not to mention Rose and Bernard).
I'm glad that Ben survived; and apparently is honored to finally be chosen for something special - it's what he wanted from Jacob for years.
But...On the minus side:
I feel cheated and let down. The entire sideways universe is Heaven? Including the people who haven't died - Rose, Penny, Desmond, Claire, Kate, Sawyer, Eloise, Hurley? It didn't work for me; I think the writers couldn't think of any other way to deal with the sideways universe, so they turned it into Heaven.
Does anyone have a clue why Ben switched sides from Smokey back to Jack & co. again?
I will miss Lost. It's been a helluva ride. But I think the writers could have done a lot better; and were a bit too self-indulgent with the storyline, churning out plot after plot and sub-plot and having to leave too many threads dangling, or else tie things up too quickly.
And no word about Walt. But I got my Vincent moments; so I'm happy. And just as I've always said; Vincent runs the Island; he saved Desmond from the well and then came to comfort the dying Jack.
Gail
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Post by dr76 on May 24, 2010 0:06:47 GMT -5
What happened to Walt, Michael, Mr. Eko and Ana-Lucia?
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Post by Karen on May 24, 2010 8:10:04 GMT -5
Don't know what others will think but I liked it. I love a happy ending. It's like re-writing Romeo and Juliet to see them in heaven together. It's like the end of the Tolkien trilogy -- Aragorn gets elf-lady; Faramir gets horse-lady; Sam gets Rosie; bittersweet for Frodo, but he gets to go "over the sea." It's like the end of the Narnia books -- The Last Battle -- where they are all in the train accident but then they are in Narnia and going "further up and further in" and they find all their loved ones. I LOVE a happy, sappy ending. It wasn't exactly Christian imagery because, duh, no Jesus figure. I don't think everything about the island was ever explained (take out the plug, oh bad idea, put the plug back in) -- who knows how long Hurley actually lived on the island with only Benry for company. But nice imagery at the end. And Happy HAPPY HAPPY! endings all around for everybody. I was a mess every 15 minutes as people got their memories back. So maybe the island was just a metaphor for life: there is good; there is evil; there is the unknown and the unexplained and the good decisions and the bad decisions but through it all are the relationships, both friendships and love-ships, that carry us through and survive and sustain us. Not a bad message. Given what they had to live up to, my personal opinion is that it was great! I may never rewatch the ep, but if it were a book I'd definitely re-read it. Agree totally! Isn't a happy ending what we all want? It's like this place, in a small way. We got each other - we've kind of taken each other into our lives so as to help and support us while we muddle through to our ultimate happy ending. I can see you all there at my happy ending, along with the rest of my peeps. So totally cool. And the island mystery - the light that needed to be protected? Yah. That works. But the part I liked the best out of all the amazing parts (Charlie and Claire/Aaron, Juliet/Sawyer, Kate/Jack, Shannon/Sayid (yeah baby - cutie pie Boone - he's amazing on Vampire Diaries, btw) - I LOVED the fact that Vincent both accompanied Jack when he started his journey and stayed with him at the end. I couldn't stop crying. Dog/goD? Anyway. Whoa. Good myth.
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