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Post by Queen E on May 15, 2012 11:01:07 GMT -5
Besides, it makes for more interesting discussion when we're not all on the same page.
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Post by Sue on May 15, 2012 11:13:03 GMT -5
One man's juice is another man's vinegar (or something, haven't had my coffee yet). And I'll be the first to admit that I have fairly plebeian tastes in all forms of art -- and "uneducated palate" perhaps. Recall that Mad Men also is too slow for me. Nah. We all like what we like; I wouldn't call your taste plebian. We all have things that appeal to us and not to others, not to mention things that bother us that don't bother others. I didn't mean to make you feel like you were wrong! Sweet, but funny. I wasn't feeling put down -- I was consoling you for having the variant opinion. If someone disagrees with my opinion I know in my heart of hearts that they are "wrong" and I am RIGHT. (Jim calls it a "Pittsburgh accent" and says anytime I utter a declarative statement is comes out with that type of spin on it.)
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Post by Queen E on May 15, 2012 11:44:03 GMT -5
Nah. We all like what we like; I wouldn't call your taste plebian. We all have things that appeal to us and not to others, not to mention things that bother us that don't bother others. I didn't mean to make you feel like you were wrong! Sweet, but funny. I wasn't feeling put down -- I was consoling you for having the variant opinion. If someone disagrees with my opinion I know in my heart of hearts that they are "wrong" and I am RIGHT. (Jim calls it a "Pittsburgh accent" and says anytime I utter a declarative statement is comes out with that type of spin on it.) Hee! You're such a mom. And that makes me think of Giles: "Yes, well, I, uh, I appreciate your thoughts on the matter, I, in fact I... well, I encourage you to, to always, uh, challenge me, uh, when you feel it's appropriate. You should never be cowed by authority. Except, of course, in this instance, when I am clearly right and you are clearly wrong."
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Post by Sara on May 21, 2012 9:38:16 GMT -5
Well.
I can't wait to find out how Sherlock managed to pull off that nifty trick; I can only figure (and hope) that Molly is somehow involved. Since Moriarty completely dismissed Molly as a person of any importance to Sherlock, not even bothering to include her in his threat to kill Sherlock's friends, it would be especially sweet if she played a key role in helping foil Moriarty's seemingly airtight plan to destroy Sherlock.
Also, Moriarty will never not creep the fuck out of me; dude even unnerved me when he was lying on the roof with his brains blow out.
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Post by Queen E on May 22, 2012 0:08:18 GMT -5
Well. I can't wait to find out how Sherlock managed to pull off that nifty trick; I can only figure (and hope) that Molly is somehow involved. Since Moriarty completely dismissed Molly as a person of any importance to Sherlock, not even bothering to include her in his threat to kill Sherlock's friends, it would be especially sweet if she played a key role in helping foil Moriarty's seemingly airtight plan to destroy Sherlock. Also, Moriarty will never not creep the fuck out of me; dude even unnerved me when he was lying on the roof with his brains blow out. Oh, then you'll love my new icon. I have a few thoughts, but I think you're right that Molly had something to do with the misdirection. And the positioning of John...
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Post by Sara on May 22, 2012 19:20:55 GMT -5
Well. I can't wait to find out how Sherlock managed to pull off that nifty trick; I can only figure (and hope) that Molly is somehow involved. Since Moriarty completely dismissed Molly as a person of any importance to Sherlock, not even bothering to include her in his threat to kill Sherlock's friends, it would be especially sweet if she played a key role in helping foil Moriarty's seemingly airtight plan to destroy Sherlock. Also, Moriarty will never not creep the fuck out of me; dude even unnerved me when he was lying on the roof with his brains blow out. Oh, then you'll love my new icon. I have a few thoughts, but I think you're right that Molly had something to do with the misdirection. And the positioning of John... This is probably the best bit of speculation I've come across as to how Sherlock accomplished the illusion: seriable.com/sherlock-reichenbach-escape-explained/
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Post by Queen E on May 22, 2012 20:34:47 GMT -5
Oh, then you'll love my new icon. I have a few thoughts, but I think you're right that Molly had something to do with the misdirection. And the positioning of John... This is probably the best bit of speculation I've come across as to how Sherlock accomplished the illusion: seriable.com/sherlock-reichenbach-escape-explained/Intriguing speculation, all. There was one crucial bit I noticed this time; the way Sherlock "jumped" and landed was face down. So why was there blood on the back of his head? That does lend credence to the Moriarty explanation, since Moriarty's wound was in the back of his head. Plus, what I really was intrigued by this go-round, as I said in an e-mail to Riff earlier today, was the Hansel and Gretal aspect of the episode. Moffat and fairy tales, I tell you. There is the whole notion going through this episode of following bread crumbs that you think will lead you to the right place, and indeed, does lead each of them (Mycroft thinks he learns helpful information in exchange for Sherlock info; Donovan follows these crumbs to conclude Sherlock is a fake; even Sherlock follows the crumb of a magic code that can unlock everything) to a big candy house that they think is where they want to go...and it turns out to be false. I think that was what Sherlock was trying to do with Watson with his "suicide," but in this case, it was to save Watson's life. Really well-constructed episode! This is what I was thinking of (that I couldn't say for fear of spoilers) in the Bones thread; the season finale tried the same thing (since Sherlock aired five months ago), but it didn't work as well, in my opinion.
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Post by Sara on Jun 5, 2012 19:08:03 GMT -5
New "how did Sherlock survive" theory:
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Post by Queen E on Jun 5, 2012 19:40:01 GMT -5
New "how did Sherlock survive" theory: Hee! Love it!
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Post by S'ewing S'cubie on Jun 14, 2012 9:15:14 GMT -5
New "how did Sherlock survive" theory: I am perfectly wiling to accept this idea because as anyone can see SHERLOCK HOLMES IS A TIMELORD!!
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Post by Queen E on Jun 14, 2012 10:47:30 GMT -5
Hee!
I mean, obviously!
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Post by Anne, Old S'cubie Cat on Jul 21, 2012 23:26:41 GMT -5
Well. I can't wait to find out how Sherlock managed to pull off that nifty trick; I can only figure (and hope) that Molly is somehow involved. Since Moriarty completely dismissed Molly as a person of any importance to Sherlock, not even bothering to include her in his threat to kill Sherlock's friends, it would be especially sweet if she played a key role in helping foil Moriarty's seemingly airtight plan to destroy Sherlock. Also, Moriarty will never not creep the fuck out of me; dude even unnerved me when he was lying on the roof with his brains blow out. to all of the above. Mind officially blown. ETA, the next morning: Been having a bit of a think. Moriarty could've faked his own death too - I don't remember Sherlock checking for a pulse, or even looking too closely, and not to be crass, but I don't remember seeing anything but blood under Moriarty's head, or even any visible damage from the angle we saw. I'm probably wrong, but there's always that what if...
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Post by Queen E on Jul 22, 2012 13:25:44 GMT -5
New "how did Sherlock survive" theory: I am perfectly wiling to accept this idea because as anyone can see SHERLOCK HOLMES IS A TIMELORD!!Apparently Moffat tweeted about whether Cumberbatch would be a good candidate to play The Master to Smith's Doctor, he said: "All four cheekbones on one screen!"
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Post by Anne, Old S'cubie Cat on Jul 22, 2012 13:32:18 GMT -5
Think, continued: I can't believe Moriarty would just shoot himself in the head, when he could fake it and watch Sherlock squirm. Not to mention that by appearing to die, Moriarty thinks he's forced Sherlock into committing suicide as the only way to save his friends. And there's all that talk about the two of them being alike, too.
So the more I think about it, the more likely dual faked deaths seems.
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Post by Queen E on Dec 18, 2012 1:28:11 GMT -5
New "how did Sherlock survive" theory: I am perfectly wiling to accept this idea because as anyone can see SHERLOCK HOLMES IS A TIMELORD!!Heh. In honor of this revelation, I present the following: Sherlock vs. The Doctor
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