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Post by Anne, Old S'cubie Cat on Jan 26, 2014 23:40:24 GMT -5
Okay, just finished watching "The Empty Hearse" - I enjoyed it. I don't have anything profound to say, but I did like the episode. So that's something.
Also, I rather appreciated that Sherlock seems to be a wee bit wistful that Molly has gone and found someone else.
Maybe I'll have more thoughts later; I can't talk to Paul or Katherine because I'm still squawking.
Oh, I know. I like Mary. She's a good foil for Sherlock and match for John. Also the sibling squabbling was rather fun.
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Post by Anne, Old S'cubie Cat on Jan 27, 2014 22:44:46 GMT -5
One more thing I just remembered - Kitty is rewatching all of Chuck, and it struck me how much Sherlock's, what, interior monologue? resembles what goes on inside Chuck's head. So, Sherlock has an Intersect all his own?
Oh, yes, and there were at least a few cute little references to the source material in this episode. I only noticed them because I've been rereading the original Sherlock Holmes stories. The skip code is from one story, there's a case mentioned in passing where a stepfather has created a fake online profile to romance the stepdaughter (in the original, he loses her money if she marries), and of course "Sumatra Street Station". I'd have to go back and find the actual references, and I'm sure I've missed others, but I thought that was kind of a nice way to pay homage.
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Post by Queen E on Feb 7, 2014 16:48:16 GMT -5
One more thing I just remembered - Kitty is rewatching all of Chuck, and it struck me how much Sherlock's, what, interior monologue? resembles what goes on inside Chuck's head. So, Sherlock has an Intersect all his own? Oh, yes, and there were at least a few cute little references to the source material in this episode. I only noticed them because I've been rereading the original Sherlock Holmes stories. The skip code is from one story, there's a case mentioned in passing where a stepfather has created a fake online profile to romance the stepdaughter (in the original, he loses her money if she marries), and of course "Sumatra Street Station". I'd have to go back and find the actual references, and I'm sure I've missed others, but I thought that was kind of a nice way to pay homage. "His Last Vow" recalled something as well, but my brain is refusing to produce it right now. Feh. Oddly enough, I found the pacing and storytelling to be a tad uneven, but somehow those flaws made me like it more, if that makes any sense. It rather ends up being a metaphor for Sherlock; the less self-contained and perfect the narrative (or character) is, the more interesting it is to me. It's funny that more than any season since the first, Sherlock keeps reasserting the "high-functioning sociopath" bit, when it is abundantly clear that he feels a great deal. It's rather like he's trying to convince himself. I've yet to meet a sociopath that a) cared anything for anyone else, or b) had any degree of self-awareness. While the first was obvious in "The Riechenbach Fall, the latter was made abundantly clear during his best man speech. Ah! I remembered. The Janine subplot was actually a decent update of the actual storyline in the original. Sherlock goes undercover at the Milverton estate in order to gain access, and ends up romancing one of the staff...far enough to propose, and later feels badly (as 21st century Sherlock does) that he used her in that fashion. I liked the way that was handled.
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Post by Anne, Old S'cubie Cat on Feb 16, 2014 23:53:40 GMT -5
One more thing I just remembered - Kitty is rewatching all of Chuck, and it struck me how much Sherlock's, what, interior monologue? resembles what goes on inside Chuck's head. So, Sherlock has an Intersect all his own? Oh, yes, and there were at least a few cute little references to the source material in this episode. I only noticed them because I've been rereading the original Sherlock Holmes stories. The skip code is from one story, there's a case mentioned in passing where a stepfather has created a fake online profile to romance the stepdaughter (in the original, he loses her money if she marries), and of course "Sumatra Street Station". I'd have to go back and find the actual references, and I'm sure I've missed others, but I thought that was kind of a nice way to pay homage. "His Last Vow" recalled something as well, but my brain is refusing to produce it right now. Feh. Oddly enough, I found the pacing and storytelling to be a tad uneven, but somehow those flaws made me like it more, if that makes any sense. It rather ends up being a metaphor for Sherlock; the less self-contained and perfect the narrative (or character) is, the more interesting it is to me. It's funny that more than any season since the first, Sherlock keeps reasserting the "high-functioning sociopath" bit, when it is abundantly clear that he feels a great deal. It's rather like he's trying to convince himself. I've yet to meet a sociopath that a) cared anything for anyone else, or b) had any degree of self-awareness. While the first was obvious in "The Riechenbach Fall, the latter was made abundantly clear during his best man speech. Ah! I remembered. The Janine subplot was actually a decent update of the actual storyline in the original. Sherlock goes undercover at the Milverton estate in order to gain access, and ends up romancing one of the staff...far enough to propose, and later feels badly (as 21st century Sherlock does) that he used her in that fashion. I liked the way that was handled. Nice catch, there. I can't remember the title, but there's one where Watson finds Holmes in an opium den, too. And Sherlock is much more capable of human feeling than he wants to admit to himself. I need more thinking about this. It was a very uneven episode, but on balance, I think it worked. We were certainly all mesmerized watching it. Kitty's probably going to rewatch all of Sherlock when she finishes Chuck. I'll be interested to see how it holds up on a second viewing. For some reason, when Sherlock was trying to get John and Mary back together, I was reminded of the Doctor trying to "fix" Amy and Rory. Also too, so, Mary is ex-CIA, so she's Sara Walker? I mean, Sherlock is his own Intersect, so...
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Post by Queen E on Feb 17, 2014 16:17:14 GMT -5
"His Last Vow" recalled something as well, but my brain is refusing to produce it right now. Feh. Oddly enough, I found the pacing and storytelling to be a tad uneven, but somehow those flaws made me like it more, if that makes any sense. It rather ends up being a metaphor for Sherlock; the less self-contained and perfect the narrative (or character) is, the more interesting it is to me. It's funny that more than any season since the first, Sherlock keeps reasserting the "high-functioning sociopath" bit, when it is abundantly clear that he feels a great deal. It's rather like he's trying to convince himself. I've yet to meet a sociopath that a) cared anything for anyone else, or b) had any degree of self-awareness. While the first was obvious in "The Riechenbach Fall, the latter was made abundantly clear during his best man speech. Ah! I remembered. The Janine subplot was actually a decent update of the actual storyline in the original. Sherlock goes undercover at the Milverton estate in order to gain access, and ends up romancing one of the staff...far enough to propose, and later feels badly (as 21st century Sherlock does) that he used her in that fashion. I liked the way that was handled. Nice catch, there. I can't remember the title, but there's one where Watson finds Holmes in an opium den, too. And Sherlock is much more capable of human feeling than he wants to admit to himself. I need more thinking about this. It was a very uneven episode, but on balance, I think it worked. We were certainly all mesmerized watching it. Kitty's probably going to rewatch all of Sherlock when she finishes Chuck. I'll be interested to see how it holds up on a second viewing. For some reason, when Sherlock was trying to get John and Mary back together, I was reminded of the Doctor trying to "fix" Amy and Rory. Also too, so, Mary is ex-CIA, so she's Sara Walker? I mean, Sherlock is his own Intersect, so... You know, I almost prefer the messiness of Sherlock to the overtidiness of Moffat-era Who. Not every question, plot-line needs to be resolved...and the ones he doesn't (Amy's family, Rory's dad) are actually the ones he should. Moffat should rewatch Davies last full season; I'm rewatching it right now, and I can't help but be impressed about how every episode of the season contains elements of the resolution: the two Tens, the Doctor-Donna, are suggested subtly in how every story deals with clones, duplicates, copies, even the Oods brain, hindbrain, overbrain. It's brilliant. But, back to Sherlock; I haven't even talked about all the meta. I promise a longer post about that in awhile. By the by, I'm sorry I didn't respond to the parts about Chuck; I've never seen it! I remember the story you're talking about, although I can't remember the title either.
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Post by Anne, Old S'cubie Cat on Feb 18, 2014 12:46:45 GMT -5
Nice catch, there. I can't remember the title, but there's one where Watson finds Holmes in an opium den, too. And Sherlock is much more capable of human feeling than he wants to admit to himself. I need more thinking about this. It was a very uneven episode, but on balance, I think it worked. We were certainly all mesmerized watching it. Kitty's probably going to rewatch all of Sherlock when she finishes Chuck. I'll be interested to see how it holds up on a second viewing. For some reason, when Sherlock was trying to get John and Mary back together, I was reminded of the Doctor trying to "fix" Amy and Rory. Also too, so, Mary is ex-CIA, so she's Sara Walker? I mean, Sherlock is his own Intersect, so... You know, I almost prefer the messiness of Sherlock to the overtidiness of Moffat-era Who. Not every question, plot-line needs to be resolved...and the ones he doesn't (Amy's family, Rory's dad) are actually the ones he should. Moffat should rewatch Davies last full season; I'm rewatching it right now, and I can't help but be impressed about how every episode of the season contains elements of the resolution: the two Tens, the Doctor-Donna, are suggested subtly in how every story deals with clones, duplicates, copies, even the Oods brain, hindbrain, overbrain. It's brilliant. But, back to Sherlock; I haven't even talked about all the meta. I promise a longer post about that in awhile. By the by, I'm sorry I didn't respond to the parts about Chuck; I've never seen it!I remember the story you're talking about, although I can't remember the title either. No worries. Chuck is just at the front of my brain because Kitty's been rewatching, and since she likes the TV in the den, I walk past it a lot. Could be worse, could be Fringe - much as I love the show, I don't know how she can eat while watching the icky gross scenes.
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