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Post by Lola m on Oct 17, 2007 17:08:59 GMT -5
snipped: Yes! Yes! But I really wanted to Wood. What an evil thing to do to poor Faith. And it occurs to me that it shows that Wood doesn't understand Faith half as well as Giles does - Wood sends her off to deal with the vampire kids (and I'll bet he knew that they'd been turned) without a second thought. Wood is just using her, and I don't think he cares if she survives or not. Really? That isn't the impression I got at all. I mean what were Wood's options right then? He knows there's a bunch of children who are most likely vampires now. He knows he's responsible for a bunch of slayers. And he knows those newbies can't handle the mini-vamps. Neither can he, on account of not being a Slayer and having a responsibility to stay with his slayers. If he tried he'd get himself killed and leave his charges without knowledgeable backup. So he calls someone who can get it done. And I saw it as sort of like this and sort of like . . . like they're collegues who consult with each other as needed. And that things are strained between them because of their previous relationship. That seems very likely, knowing what we do of those two.
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Post by Lola m on Oct 17, 2007 17:13:27 GMT -5
Yes! Yes! But I really wanted to Wood. What an evil thing to do to poor Faith. And it occurs to me that it shows that Wood doesn't understand Faith half as well as Giles does - Wood sends her off to deal with the vampire kids (and I'll bet he knew that they'd been turned) without a second thought. Giles lays out what he wants Faith to do, tells her why it's to her advantage as a way of talking her into it, but he also listens to her, and opens up to her about his own youthful mistakes. Giles is trying to connect with Faith in the same way he connects with Buffy, while Wood is just using her, and I don't think he cares if she survives or not. Also, Giles' sweater? Hee! The Yellow Submarine sweater. Giles must be a bit disillusioned with the whole slayer business, because I think The Beatles "Yellow Submarine" has a very, 'Row, Row, Row You Boat' feel to it. These lines both have the same number of beats: Row, row, row your boat, gently down the stream. We all live in a Yellow Submarine. They even rhyme. So, Life is But a dream, in a yellow submarine, eh? Also, both Robin and Giles are 'using' Faith. I hope she gets her freedom. I like your brain, you know? I wonder if each 'use' Faith partly because that is the way she is used to dealing with the world? That this is the way to approach her about things? Because the only not-so-nice thing about this is the aspect of paying her off to do this job. It would be more honest to get her the paperwork and the "retirement" just because it is the right thing to do. And to have her do this job because it is a job needing to be done by a highly cabable slayer, suited to her skills, etc. But like, again, maybe making the whole thing a deal or trade-off is a better approach to take with Faith.
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Post by Rachael on Sept 9, 2008 19:00:55 GMT -5
snipped: Yes! Yes! But I really wanted to Wood. What an evil thing to do to poor Faith. And it occurs to me that it shows that Wood doesn't understand Faith half as well as Giles does - Wood sends her off to deal with the vampire kids (and I'll bet he knew that they'd been turned) without a second thought. Wood is just using her, and I don't think he cares if she survives or not. Really? That isn't the impression I got at all. I mean what were Wood's options right then? He knows there's a bunch of children who are most likely vampires now. He knows he's responsible for a bunch of slayers. And he knows those newbies can't handle the mini-vamps. Neither can he, on account of not being a Slayer and having a responsibility to stay with his slayers. If he tried he'd get himself killed and leave his charges without knowledgeable backup. So he calls someone who can get it done. "I swear I would never have bothered you if I thought any of these girls could take care of them" and "Thank you. Sincerely." is not 'without a second thought' and he tries with "How've you been" to find out about her, but she hangs up on him. As to 'I bet he knew they'd been turned' - I thought they both understood that possibility, otherwise why send a slayer and not social services? Faith was upset about it, but she wasn't letting Wood in enough to know that, so it's not like he could help her when she wouldn't let him. Really, I can't see any thoughtless in what Wood did, just a Watcher doing what needed done. Me, either. I thought, though, that clearly HE knew they'd been turned, or probably had, and assumed she'd think that way, too. I got the distinct impression that Faith herself was surprised, for some reason.
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Post by Rachael on Sept 9, 2008 19:04:25 GMT -5
So, I really have to know...was I the only one who noticed The Doctor and Rose on the next to last page of the first Part?
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Post by Onjel on Sept 9, 2008 19:34:15 GMT -5
So, I really have to know...was I the only one who noticed The Doctor and Rose on the next to last page of the first Part? I'll revisit the edition, but I remember seeing them in one of the books and remarking on it to someone in 3D life. Apparently, it was this one.
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