Post by Kerrie on Mar 27, 2004 16:40:28 GMT -5
I finally saw the episode and read the review. Great work, Nan. As usual you gave me a totally new perspective. In particular I had not thought about the cyberborgs and Dr Who and I definitely did not pick up the episode being about trust and crossing lines. I will think some more about this. The only thing that I will say now is in relation to what someone (I cant remember who) said about Wesley killed his father defending Fred. He did, but why didn't he stop shooting when his father was dead? The answer seems to me to lie in the fact that Wesley wanted to kill his Dad, just like Liam wanted to kill his Dad and Spike wanted to kill his mother. In all three situtations the parents had crossed the line for what was tolerable behaviour (even if Liam needed to be soulless to act).
My only original thought for the episode was that Wesley once more lets Fred go when he could/should be bonding with her. My AtS-lore is not very good, but wasn't it a similar freak interuption that allowed Gunn to start dating Fred? At this point one has to start wondering whether Wesley has commitment issues which makes him reluctant to take determined action to win Fred's love.
I have just had another thought. In the beginning Angel lectured Wesley on the inappropriateness of taking Fred on the mission. This is blatent sexism. It was just as dangerous for Wes. In the next scene, Wesley is parroting everything Angel said and Fred rejects it. She says they are the words of a brooding little boy (I think?). However, they are Angel's words. The epiosed was called "Lineage" and I thought it referred to family lines and what traits we inherit from our family and it also highlights that Angel is like Wes's father. He influences Wes. Sorry for the rambling, I am still trying to understand what all this means.
My only original thought for the episode was that Wesley once more lets Fred go when he could/should be bonding with her. My AtS-lore is not very good, but wasn't it a similar freak interuption that allowed Gunn to start dating Fred? At this point one has to start wondering whether Wesley has commitment issues which makes him reluctant to take determined action to win Fred's love.
I have just had another thought. In the beginning Angel lectured Wesley on the inappropriateness of taking Fred on the mission. This is blatent sexism. It was just as dangerous for Wes. In the next scene, Wesley is parroting everything Angel said and Fred rejects it. She says they are the words of a brooding little boy (I think?). However, they are Angel's words. The epiosed was called "Lineage" and I thought it referred to family lines and what traits we inherit from our family and it also highlights that Angel is like Wes's father. He influences Wes. Sorry for the rambling, I am still trying to understand what all this means.