5.16 Shells--Chrysalis Mar 11, 2004 15:42:44 GMT -5
Post by Rachael on Mar 11, 2004 15:42:44 GMT -5
LostSoul said:Death of Fred and Cordy
I gave more thoughts to Fred's death and who is to be blamed. I couldn't help thinking the real culprit is actually Angel and Fred herself.
Gunn may have cleared up the matter with the custom but I guess eventually, Knox & Illyria's followers would get it done, may be through another client of Dr Sparrow. Knox is the one choosing Fred to host Illyria and if Angel hasn't made the deal with W&H, Fred would not have known Knox. There would be another victim, but not Fred. However, having said that, the whole FG, including Fred, agreed to join W&H. The FG have let their guard down while in W&H, especially for Fred who is the only one in FG who has maintained close contact with one particular subsordinate -- Knox. She even went for date with Knox.
Another example of fate & destiny resulting in death is Cordy. Last night, I watched the episode which Cordy choose to become a part demon. I couldn't help feeling the irony of the whole thing. Cordy became part demon so that she can maintain the connection with the PTB without falling into coma & die. But it turned out that the PTB become MIA soon afterwards and Cordy still end up in a coma & die. Is fate & destiny some kind of reverse Chao Theory -- no matter what course of action you choose, the end result is the same ?
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Okay, now I'm gonna take exception to much of what you say (politely, though ).
While I agree that Fred bears some of the responsibility for what happened to her, as does Angel, IMO the majority of the blame must be laid at the feet of Knox, and a not-small amount with Gunn, as well.
Why? Well, because while it's true that Fred had to know that going to work at W&H would introduce new dangers into her life, and in fact had already chosen the very dangerous life of working with Angel in the first place, Knox is the one who actively made the bad choice. (Bad as in "evil", not as in "mistaken".) Knox's actions are deliberately to inflict harm (no matter how he sees it) on another human being, and specifically and horribly, on someone he loves.
I'm going to use an analogy that is for illustrative purposes, and I'm NOT implying that I think you believe this, 'cause I'd be massively offended if someone thought *I* did, but: to blame Fred for what happened to her is to blame the victim, just like, for example, blaming a rape victim for choosing to wear certain clothes or walk alone at night. Yeah, she should know that walking alone at night is dangerous, and even have some idea what could happen to her. But the blame in that instance is unequivocably on the rapist who chose to harm her.
Similarly, and less obviously, you could blame a police officer who got shot on the job for their own death, since they chose a career that would put them in that sort of danger. It's even natural, as the loved one of someone who died that way, to blame them. (As Wes blames Fred for her curiosity.) However, it's the fault of the person who pulled the trigger on that gun.
So, yeah, Fred knew her life was dangerous, and yeah, she shouldn't have touched something that she knew might be dangerous, but Knox targetted her for death, and in the long run, he bears almost all of the responsibility.
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