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Post by beccaelizabeth on Feb 17, 2004 6:19:35 GMT -5
'what did we do with our lives before we got these jobs?' Wesley replies- 'I seem to recall lots and lots of' does he say jenga? Is that the game with lots of blocks and you take out blocks until they fall down? I thought also he maybe says danger, but that doesnt make so much sense. becca misses subtitles on the downloads.
If its the game answer- so the Pryce agency ended up with lots of free time? I just got a 'Wes doesnt actually remember' moment from that line either way.
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Post by SpringSummers on Feb 17, 2004 8:18:58 GMT -5
'what did we do with our lives before we got these jobs?' Wesley replies- 'I seem to recall lots and lots of' does he say jenga? Is that the game with lots of blocks and you take out blocks until they fall down? I thought also he maybe says danger, but that doesnt make so much sense. becca misses subtitles on the downloads. If its the game answer- so the Pryce agency ended up with lots of free time? I just got a 'Wes doesnt actually remember' moment from that line either way. I thought he said "jenga," which is that "lots of blocks" game. I too got a "Wes doesn't actually remember" feel, which I think was what we were supposed to get - that the "Connor-parts" of their memories have been replaced with this vague feeling that they were doing something . . .
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Post by Karen on Feb 17, 2004 8:38:39 GMT -5
I thought he said "jenga," which is that "lots of blocks" game. I too got a "Wes doesn't actually remember" feel, which I think was what we were supposed to get - that the "Connor-parts" of their memories have been replaced with this vague feeling that they were doing something . . . When Wes said that he remembers playing "jenga", I thought of how that game really is a metaphor of what happened to them all. Jenga is a game of balance - and when you take out too many pieces, the whole thing falls down.
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Post by raenstorm on Feb 17, 2004 8:53:41 GMT -5
When Wes said that he remembers playing "jenga", I thought of how that game really is a metaphor of what happened to them all. Jenga is a game of balance - and when you take out too many pieces, the whole thing falls down. I agree with Karen, here. Plus, though we never actually saw it, I can see this group playing Jenga. I thought it was interesting... we got a few product highlights in this episode (there were at least 2 others that I'm failing to remember right now... oh well, nevermind, one was Sky Bar -- a real place so kinda an ad in its own way) and we hardly ever get them on Angel (we've gotten them with the new cards, mind you... no doubt part of the agreement for the WB to get 'em cheaper). Anyway, I got distracted! Typically we don't really see the gang in their "free time" which is what they were talking about... so I can easily picture them playing Jenga together in the past. Which is an important metaphor for their... being prepared for dealing with W&H, which is a great balancing act. They've "played" with that in the past but now they have to do it for real.
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Post by Karen on Feb 17, 2004 9:27:55 GMT -5
I agree with Karen, here. Plus, though we never actually saw it, I can see this group playing Jenga. I thought it was interesting... we got a few product highlights in this episode (there were at least 2 others that I'm failing to remember right now... oh well, nevermind, one was Sky Bar -- a real place so kinda an ad in its own way) and we hardly ever get them on Angel (we've gotten them with the new cards, mind you... no doubt part of the agreement for the WB to get 'em cheaper). Anyway, I got distracted! Typically we don't really see the gang in their "free time" which is what they were talking about... so I can easily picture them playing Jenga together in the past. Which is an important metaphor for their... being prepared for dealing with W&H, which is a great balancing act. They've "played" with that in the past but now they have to do it for real. This is really good, Rae. "Angel" is all about growing up and leaving your childhood behind - but not the lessons you learned there. Gonna so miss this stuff.
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Post by Nickim on Feb 17, 2004 19:35:08 GMT -5
Rae, This. Was. An. Awesome. Review. I say "analyze away, girl'. Loved how you pointed out how the camera angles show the disconnection. Wish I could think of these things. Having Nan's and the guest reviews to read adds so much to my appreciation of the sublties of AtS. Thanks.
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Post by Anne, Old S'cubie Cat on Feb 17, 2004 22:28:54 GMT -5
Well done, Rae!
I especially liked the way you set up the historical context, and the parallels to Angel's situation in present day.
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Post by KMInfinity on Feb 17, 2004 22:30:10 GMT -5
I finally made it over here, after battling mucho comp demons that had my HD on the fritz. Last rites were performed, and tho death was feared, the damned thing rose again and is now working. For now. Hi Rae. Great review. I'll echo the previous comments. I am very attuned to the "story" and so often miss those other subtle things like camera angles and physical space. Your analysis is spot on. And thanks for the explanation to me in the other thread. The title connection certainly resonates better now.
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Post by RAKSHA on Feb 18, 2004 18:50:34 GMT -5
<Angel didn’t sign on with W&H to follow their orders, their directions--he signed on with a purpose. He wanted to stop evil from spreading. > This is the only thing I disagreed with in your review. In my opinion, Angel's purpose in signing on with W&H had absolutely nothing to do with stopping evil. He signed on to save Connor. The rest, the perks, the fighting evil from within the evil law firm, was window dressing; and the purpose of fighting evil from within W&H is mainly a sop to Angel's frayed conscience. Excellent review! ITA about the disconnection; that's been an important theme all season. Always, in the past, the Fang Gang's reunited and reaffirmed their purpose and solidarity, and overcome just about everything. Now they're drifting, and being preyed on and corrupted (in Gunn's case). Lawson was definitely set up as another of Angel's lost sons, in my opinion; and perhaps his name was deliberate. The Son of Law, the righteous one, turned by Angel into his own damned and apathetic son in order to carry out orders, for the greater good, etc... [glow=red,2,300]GAIL [/glow]
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Post by raenstorm on Feb 18, 2004 19:44:08 GMT -5
<Angel didn’t sign on with W&H to follow their orders, their directions--he signed on with a purpose. He wanted to stop evil from spreading. > This is the only thing I disagreed with in your review. In my opinion, Angel's purpose in signing on with W&H had absolutely nothing to do with stopping evil. He signed on to save Connor. The rest, the perks, the fighting evil from within the evil law firm, was window dressing; and the purpose of fighting evil from within W&H is mainly a sop to Angel's frayed conscience. Excellent review! ITA about the disconnection; that's been an important theme all season. Always, in the past, the Fang Gang's reunited and reaffirmed their purpose and solidarity, and overcome just about everything. Now they're drifting, and being preyed on and corrupted (in Gunn's case). Lawson was definitely set up as another of Angel's lost sons, in my opinion; and perhaps his name was deliberate. The Son of Law, the righteous one, turned by Angel into his own damned and apathetic son in order to carry out orders, for the greater good, etc... [glow=red,2,300]GAIL [/glow]I'll agree that a large part of signing on with W&H was about his son but... he was thinking about it before that so I don't buy it was the only reason. Connor was just the DECIDING reason. Thanks to everyone who read my review and liked it ! I'm glad it turned out so well... I was worried about it for a while there. Now I'm just excited to see tonight's show... and that's not just because I'm NOT the guest reviewer
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Post by Linda on Feb 22, 2004 1:38:09 GMT -5
Hi Rae,
I just wanted to belatedly add my 2 cents and say "Great analysis!" and "Thanks for all the background information!"
This wasn't my favorite episode of the season, but thanks to you and Nan and the commentors, I can appreciate the episode on many new levels.
Linda, who didn't like Spike's WWII hair, but shallowly appreciated the scene at the end even more because of the contrast ...
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Post by Sue on Feb 23, 2004 13:25:31 GMT -5
Hi Rae, I just wanted to belatedly add my 2 cents and say "Great analysis!" and "Thanks for all the background information!" This wasn't my favorite episode of the season, but thanks to you and Nan and the commentors, I can appreciate the episode on many new levels. Linda, who didn't like Spike's WWII hair, but shallowly appreciated the scene at the end even more because of the contrast ... Rae, Better late than never? Didn't see the ep until Sat due to pre-emption then RL hi-jacked me. Did want to say that I really, really, appreciate the historical background research you do and the way it helps put things in context. Enjoyed the review very much.
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